Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The 3 game flukey win streak was nice and I wanted to beat the pats like everyone else yesterday but long-term we need to be tanking this season. This is not a good football team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That shipped has sailed. We'll be picking between 7 and 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: That shipped has sailed. We'll be picking between 7 and 15. F that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I thought suck for sam died. Something about holes in his game and he may not declare. Isn't the flavor now Rosen or Mayfield or Falk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Damn, people. Even the league has now jumped in to help the Jets tank when they obviously cannot do it correctly for themselves. What more do we need to see to know this is the right course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: I thought suck for sam died. Something about holes in his game and he may not declare. Isn't the flavor now Rosen or Mayfield or Falk? No the flavor should be Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, nycdan said: Damn, people. Even the league has now jumped in to help the Jets tank when they obviously cannot do it correctly for themselves. What more do we need to see to know this is the right course? Plus the 49ers finally benched Hoyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The 3 game flukey win streak was nice and I wanted to beat the pats like everyone else yesterday but long-term we need to be tanking this season. This is not a good football team When you say tank you really mean rooting for them to lose. That is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, JetsFanatic said: When you say tank you really mean rooting for them to lose. That is idiotic. What's idiotic is rooting for 7-9 just to be stuck with nothing at qb again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is a young team with talent, character, and chemistry. I'm very optimistic to see what the team will look like next year after another good draft and what I assume will be a lot of activity in free agency. This can be a very good team in the next couple years without the #1 pick in next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: This is a young team with talent, character, and chemistry. I'm very optimistic to see what the team will look like next year after another good draft and what I assume will be a lot of activity in free agency. This can be a very good team in the next couple years without the #1 pick in next years draft. Disagree this team is still garbage. Marqise Lee learns how to catch we lose the Jacksonville game and Kizer doesn't have a couple bad TO's in jet territory we are 1-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Disagree this team is still garbage. Marqise Lee learns how to catch we lose the Jacksonville game and Kizer doesn't have a couple bad TO's in jet territory we are 1-5 and if Brate catches a TD pass and the refs don't steal a TD from us the Pats are 2-4. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pac said: I'm very optimistic to see what the team will look like next year after another good draft and what I assume will be a lot of activity in free agency. 9 minutes ago, Pac said: next year after another good draft 9 minutes ago, Pac said: another good draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What's idiotic is rooting for 7-9 just to be stuck with nothing at qb again I’m not rooting for 7-9, I’m rooting for 13-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, JetsFanatic said: I’m not rooting for 7-9, I’m rooting for 13-3. I'm rooting for a bj from Jennifer Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I'm rooting for a bj from Jennifer Lawrence Equal probability Here's the thing...does anyone remember anything meaningful about any of the recent 6-10 seasons we've had? Probably not. If you could take a red pill and one of those seasons went to 3-13 and led to us drafting a young, star QB, would you do it? Probably. So put yourself in the mindset of 3 years from now. What would that version of you prefer? 6-10 and a 1st round DB in the 2018 draft, or 3-13 and Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold or Mason Rudolph in the 2018 draft? I'm not going to tell anyone they are wrong to root for the Jets to win, but likewise, don't tell me I am for having a different long-term vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I'm rooting for a bj from Jennifer Lawrence Pretty sure you would root during the BJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Mason Rudolph, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I'm rooting for a bj from Jennifer Lawrence LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 How many turnovers Sam had this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I'm rooting for a bj from Jennifer Lawrence Pretty sure you'd have a better chance of Sucking on Sam . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 i haven't looked at the standings too closely but right now the jets are at the bottom of the afce. cleveland is about the only other afc team currently at the bottom and expected to stay there. and the 49ers have an 0-6 record. it's hard to say what a 6-10 record would do for the jets. they could still be picking 5-6-7. that should be high enough to either get a good qb prospect or be a jump off point for a move up. but this season is not about jockeying for a draft position. it's all about seeing what players are keepers for next season and beyond and also to prove whether bowles should be kept on or even mac for that matter. if this team keeps playing hard and smart and as a team then one more good draft may just put them over the top for quite a few seasons. and this is regardless of draft position because if they really want a qb then just trade future picks or get a dump truck full of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: The 3 game flukey win streak was nice and I wanted to beat the pats like everyone else yesterday but long-term we need to be tanking this season. This is not a good football team Disagree Philc1 this is a decent football team that needs to be better coached and we are a few players away from being really competitive. We beat the Patriots yesterday if not for the referees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, rangerous said: i haven't looked at the standings too closely but right now the jets are at the bottom of the afce. cleveland is about the only other afc team currently at the bottom and expected to stay there. and the 49ers have an 0-6 record. it's hard to say what a 6-10 record would do for the jets. they could still be picking 5-6-7. that should be high enough to either get a good qb prospect or be a jump off point for a move up. but this season is not about jockeying for a draft position. it's all about seeing what players are keepers for next season and beyond and also to prove whether bowles should be kept on or even mac for that matter. if this team keeps playing hard and smart and as a team then one more good draft may just put them over the top for quite a few seasons. and this is regardless of draft position because if they really want a qb then just trade future picks or get a dump truck full of money. I can see 2 games that they can easily win. This week against Miami, and at home against San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: The 3 game flukey win streak was nice and I wanted to beat the pats like everyone else yesterday but long-term we need to be tanking this season. This is not a good football team Please find another team to root for to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: I can see 2 games that they can win. This week against Miami, and at home against San Diego. hard to say. objectively i can see 2-3 more wins but they are going to the playoffs so the goal is to develop the team. it would be nice to see petty or hack get in the games. maybe they need to volunteer for specials. it wouldn't be the first time a future starter ran down kick returners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yes please, back to rationality. This week against dolphins is absolutely crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, rangerous said: hard to say. objectively i can see 2-3 more wins but they are going to the playoffs so the goal is to develop the team. it would be nice to see petty or hack get in the games. maybe they need to volunteer for specials. it wouldn't be the first time a future starter ran down kick returners. Pety and Hackenberg have sailed IMO. If Hackenberg was put in, I suspect it would end up like Kizer with Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Pety and Hackenberg have sailed IMO. If Hackenberg was put in, I suspect it would end up like Kizer with Cleveland well, that's the dilemma. if either hack or petty aren't in the future cards then the jets will need a dump truck full of cash to get a guy like cousins unless they want to put a rookie qb in. imo the jury is still out on both those guys. it may not mean a thing for next season but being a fan i'd like to see what i am missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, rangerous said: well, that's the dilemma. if either hack or petty aren't in the future cards then the jets will need a dump truck full of cash to get a guy like cousins unless they want to put a rookie qb in. imo the jury is still out on both those guys. it may not mean a thing for next season but being a fan i'd like to see what i am missing. You can't say that they were not given the opportunity in training camp. McCown barely played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 And another thing. I know DeShaun Watson is the hot ticket "oh we screwed up" pick. And he has been great. Houston has the same record we do. So I don't know if he has made an enormous impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Pety and Hackenberg have sailed IMO. If Hackenberg was put in, I suspect it would end up like Kizer with Cleveland No. Hackenberg sucks out loud on his own. Kizer is surrounded by absolute garbage. If anything, the Jets weapons have proven to be better than originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: No. Hackenberg sucks out loud on his own. Kizer is surrounded by absolute garbage. If anything, the Jets weapons have proven to be better than originally thought. Hack was bad, but Hack wasn't throwing to Kearse/Kerley two of our best WRs this season. Again, not a defense of Hack, but our "weapons" have improved since Hack last played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: No. Hackenberg sucks out loud on his own. Kizer is surrounded by absolute garbage. If anything, the Jets weapons have proven to be better than originally thought. 3TDs 9INTs. That's not great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And another thing. I know DeShaun Watson is the hot ticket "oh we screwed up" pick. And he has been great. Houston has the same record we do. So I don't know if he has made an enormous impact Over the last 5 weeks the Jets have scored 10 TDs. Over the last 5 weeks, Watson is responsible for 16 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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