munchmemory Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: Because a football tam that wants to win needs to break the tie by advancing the ball. McCown is what he is, but who ever the QB is is going to try to win the game there. Problem is Jets could have taken Watson or Mahomes, but picked a safety instead. People here are blaming McCown for being who he is. He should not be the QB, period, if this franchise had an ounce of common sense. They could not stop our screens all day. With three TOs, they were giving us tons of space in the middle of the field. The sideline throw into double coverage is beyond dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Rangers9 said: Even if you disagree with the play call with under a minute left in regulation it was a terrible pass. And McCown shouldn't have thrown it. It basically lost the game for us. There were many reasons but that was the final nail. He seems to have good games but makes crucial mistakes. I did want them to go for it. But that INT was just awful. Like you can't make that throw. An INT is a risk there. But if it is a jump ball 35 yards down the field you live with it. Not that one though, terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I had a gig and missed the game. Did Jamal Adams change the way the position is to be played today by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Watching how fast Darron Lee runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and accomplishing almost nothing is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bugg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Simply a competent franchise does not have McCown as their QB, not in camp, not on the roster, not starting.Instead it has a real QB. This disaster was avoidable, but set in stone on draft day. Safeties? Safeties? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 We could have watched Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I am so jaded I was telling everybody the Jets were definitely losing this game even with a 14-point lead and they couldn't quite understand how I knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Kleckineau said: Watching how fast Darron Lee runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and accomplishing almost nothing is amazing. He had like 10+ tackles today kept slipping in coverage tho and 2 rough penalties .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: It definitely should be. McCown's 70% completion was like a mirage. But that is what made it hard to pull the plug on him. That last drive should remove that feeling. They need to make a change. He is 38, we don't need any more data. It is a mirage. Here is the truth: Quarters Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck Rate 1st Quarter 35 27 77.1 258 7.4 30 1 0 13 37.1 4 4 106.6 2nd Quarter 55 40 72.7 454 8.3 69 3 2 19 34.5 6 7 100.1 3rd Quarter 46 33 71.7 256 5.6 21 1 1 15 32.6 1 3 83.2 4th Quarter 52 33 63.5 381 7.3 44 2 3 16 30.8 6 5 74.3 Overtime 6 3 50 25 4.2 13 0 0 1 16.7 0 0 61.1 Notice his stats get progressively worse as the game goes on. By the 4th quarter, he is horrible. We saw that today even more so and today's stats aren't included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Where is the Positive REAL Jets Fan Only thread I’d ike to reminisce on that Maye pick Im really curious, why do you even bother if your shtick is to just make a joke about everything involving the Jets? Seriously, what's the point? To look smarter than everyone when gloating after losses? That game was on the coaches. That's why a team like the Pats don't lose games up 14 in the 4th quarter even when Brady hasn't played. Run on 1st, run on 1st, run on 1st, all with Forte, flare passes all to Forte, it's coaching, Bowles thinks he's smarter than everyone because he's learned from Parcells in a time when pro football was a handoff & ball of dust. Players weren't put in position to WIN the game. They also are undisciplined (coaching again), they had like 13 penalties for over 100 yards ON THE ROAD. Coaching. You could have Carson Wentz & suck if you play to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, tfine said: Need to make a change mcCown lost the game play Petty Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app This was a true evaluation of what this team is. Start Petty and stop trying to think you are the miracle mets..it ain't happening. McCown is trying hard but he is what he is. Total collapse and mirrored last week without the horrible refs. Offense just isn't progressing. Next QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, HighPitch said: I had a gig and missed the game. Did Jamal Adams change the way the position is to be played today by chance? He seems to often have his back to the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 My wife flipped out watching the end of the game. Announced a few minutes ago that she will not watch "those fukkers" next week. Instead will go for a walk or shopping. LMFAO! We've been saying this stuff for decades but still wind up in front of the TV anyway. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, tfine said: This is not on the D Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app This is, without a doubt, 110% on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: ONE STEP CLOSER TO A BETTER PICK. TANK CROWD BE HAPPY!!!! Ahhh...said it before and I'll say it again...I'm not 'for' a tank per se. But I'm not in favor of playing McClown either. If playing Petty or Hack results in a de facto 'tank', so be it. If they play Petty or Hack and they go 2-14, at least they got some experience and we get some answers en route to a needed top DP. Playing McCown is counter productive on so many levels it's asinine. If Petty had thrown that last pick, at least we could hope that maybe he learned something from it; Seeing McCown the 15 yr vet throw it makes me nauseous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pac said: 0% chance he gets pulled nor should he... yet. Because we have a chance to be what? He chokes in the clutch...over. That is what we need to see from the other two or move on and draft a high pick. He is a career backup for a reason. I love his fight but he just is not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, JetsFanatic said: Mac had a good draft this year. Both Adams and Maye were solid picks. This team needs a QB. McCown plays very well in spurts, but he is not very good overall. He should be no better than a backup. How many times do we have to have this lesson? Adams needs to be one of the top safeties in the league by the end of next season to make that pick worth it. You don't even have to leave the AFC East to find a team who picked up two free agent safeties who have been crazy productive and are paying roughly the same money as the Jets are paying Adams and Mayes on their rookie contracts. That's without spending draft capital on the position. You draft corners high. Not safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: 0% chance he gets pulled nor should he... yet. So you think McCown has played well? Don’t send stats about his comp %. Just watch him play. It’s obvious that he is the beneficiary of bad defensive calls and misses open wrs a lot. Not pulling him yet is only the correct decision because you just played the 3 easiest teams on the schedule. If you were going to start Petty I would have start him against Cleveland and give him an easier game to get some feel for live action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Stark said: So you think McCown has played well? Don’t send stats about his comp %. Just watch him play. It’s obvious that he is the beneficiary of bad defensive calls and misses open wrs a lot. Not pulling him yet is only the correct decision because you just played the 3 easiest teams on the schedule. If you were going to start Petty I would have start him against Cleveland and give him an easier game to get some feel for live action. Mccown's a bottotm 8 NFL starter. He's passable as a player. It just indicates how poor Petty and Hackenberg really are. This is why Fitzpatrick was never really benched either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 My week of misery started about 15 minutes ago. Not sure they were in a prevent but the Dbs sure backed off like they were. And for the most part a weak pass rush late in the game. They allowed Matt Moore to get them back in the game. That's what happens when you trade yards for minutes. Everything that worked for 3 quarters goes down the tubes. Bowles coaches by formula. The Dolphins are glad about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, BRONX DUDE said: Why? If you need an explanation as to why our Head Coach, who just blew a fourth quarter 28-14 lead because of penalties and bad play from his "vaunted" defense to Matt f*cking Moore, needs to be fired, then you are beyond reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetster said: Im really curious, why do you even bother if your shtick is to just make a joke about everything involving the Jets? Seriously, what's the point? To look smarter than everyone when gloating after losses? That game was on the coaches. That's why a team like the Pats don't lose games up 14 in the 4th quarter even when Brady hasn't played. Run on 1st, run on 1st, run on 1st, all with Forte, flare passes all to Forte, it's coaching, Bowles thinks he's smarter than everyone because he's learned from Parcells in a time when pro football was a handoff & ball of dust. Players weren't put in position to WIN the game. They also are undisciplined (coaching again), they had like 13 penalties for over 100 yards ON THE ROAD. Coaching. You could have Carson Wentz & suck if you play to lose. Don't like Bowles. But in a tie game, you need to have your offense and QB make plays.Gonna need a few completions at least to either get a TD or a FG. And by virtue of having McCown as the QB, it's really, really hard. And as expected really it did not happen. And that's why this organization and Draft Day 2017 are so awful in every way. When people brag about cap room, how can you trust these people to make good personnel decisions. Lousy defense first drafts, the Wilkerson and Richardson messes, McCown..how can you trust them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Even if you disagree with the play call with under a minute left in regulation it was a terrible pass. And McCown shouldn't have thrown it. It basically lost the game for us. There were many reasons but that was the final nail. He seems to have good games but makes crucial mistakes. Like the pass against NE end of the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: As disgusting a loss as I have ever seen in my 40+ years of being a Jets fan. Really? Were you in a coma for the majority of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Matt39 said: Mccown's a bottotm 8 NFL starter. He's passable as a player. It just indicates how poor Petty and Hackenberg really are. This is why Fitzpatrick was never really benched either. It is hard for me to believe that in this offense Petty would be worse than McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: We could have watched Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson And you think Bowles would have let them sniff the field? Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, jeremy2020 said: The obvious part that sailed over your head is that free agent spending doesn't win. You need to draft good players that take up that money. The Jets haven't drafted players that are going to eat the cap space so it will be free agents...which starts the cycle from two years ago all over again. You act like those two things are mutually exclusive. We have good parts and need to retain some players BUT we can still supplement the talent with free agency. There are 4 teams that have more than 2 picks in the first two rounds. We’re one of them. So we have draft capital and cap space and an average but young team... those are good things. This team has young components while 2 years ago the nucleus was still the Mangini guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Mccown's a bottotm 8 NFL starter. He's passable as a player. It just indicates how poor Petty and Hackenberg really are. This is why Fitzpatrick was never really benched either. Yup. Every snap McCown takes is an indictment of Petty/Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Stark said: It is hard for me to believe that in this offense Petty would be worse than McCown. I mean, considering the resources invested- its hard for me to kill the offense at all today. Mccown is what he is. He's doing better than anyone on the defense is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, shevys said: Really? Were you in a coma for the majority of them? This was a perfect cookie cutter blueprint Jets game. I expected this with 10 minutes to play. Nothing has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, gEYno said: Yup. Every snap McCown takes is an indictment of Petty/Hack. Question-How can you trust these guys about anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, kdels62 said: You act like those two things are mutually exclusive. We have good parts and need to retain some players BUT we can still supplement the talent with free agency. There are 4 teams that have more than 2 picks in the first two rounds. We’re one of them. So we have draft capital and cap space and an average but young team... those are good things. This team has young components while 2 years ago the nucleus was still the Mangini guys. Kudos to you that you believe they are just a couple more buster skrines away from winning a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, gEYno said: Yup. Every snap McCown takes is an indictment of Petty/Hack. No he is an indictment of Bowles. Never play the young guy unless he is a defensive player or WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I missed all the Jets highlites as I was stuck watching the Bills till it was over and they switched to the Jets/Dolfags. I wish the network had never switched over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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