Gas2No99 4,818 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Jets head to national stage one loss away from total implosion EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- For weeks -- no, months -- the New York Jets have talked about their resolve and togetherness, how they're nothing like the dysfunctional team from last season. Their motto, hatched in the offseason by coach Todd Bowles, is "One Team, One Goal." They've got One Game to prove it. They face the surprising Buffalo Bills (5-2) on Thursday night at MetLife Stadium, and it's a last-stand kind of game for the reeling Jets, who have lost three straight after a promising 3-2 start. "This is a must-win, period, point blank," cornerback Morris Claiborne said on Sunday after the latest rerun -- a 25-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons in which they self-destructed in the fourth quarter. "We have to win this game if we want to turn this around." To emphasize his point, Claiborne punched his fist after each word, saying, "We ... have ... to ... win ... next ... week. We have to turn this around so we're still in the conversation." Josh McCown threw two touchdown passes Sunday, but the Jets lost their third straight game. AP Photo/Seth Wenig The playoff conversation, he meant. In reality, it's more than that. At 3-5, the Jets aren't realistic playoff contenders, but no one expected them to be in the hunt in the first year of the Great Rebuilding Project. Then again, the Bills weren't expected to be, either, and they're one of the hottest stories in the NFL. The Jets could be 5-3 or 6-2, if you really want to be generous, but they haven't figured out how to close games. After blowing 14-point leads in losses to the New England Patriots and Miami Dolphins, they let a one-point advantage slip away in the tropical rain forest that was MetLife Stadium. Once again, they turned to mush in the crucible of the fourth quarter. They can hang with the big boys for three quarters, but when the fourth-quarter clock starts ticking, they morph into the team everybody expected in August. They can't protect the quarterback. They stall on offense. They miss tackles. They muff punts. So who are these guys, the three-quarter Jets or the fourth-quarter Jets? If they can't figure it out against the Bills, they will have squandered a season that, for fleeting moments last month, looked like it had a chance to be special. If they lose on Thursday night, their only prime-time appearance, it'll restart the "Suck for Sam" narrative and shift the focus to 2018. "It's a must-win league, and you don't want that L column to get too big," linebacker Demario Davis said. Bowles, who is coaching for his job, has a short week to repair his team's psyche. He can start with the offense. They Jets are midway through the season and it still lacks an identity. Coordinator John Morton is leaning on 38-year-old quarterback Josh McCown, who has exceeded expectations, but some players believe the running game is under-utilized. Running back Matt Forte articulated his concerns, but he's not the only one. He's right; this offense isn't built to throw 40 to 45 times a game. The Jets have reached a pressure point. "We're just not finishing," rookie safety Jamal Adams said. "Everybody isn't communicating and people aren't doing their job. Everybody has to do a job." Wide receiver Jermaine Kearse, who won a Super Bowl ring with the Seattle Seahawks, tried to be the calm voice in the middle of the storm. He described this slump as growing pain, a necessary process. "Of course, we want to be winning in this process," he said, "but we can't let the negativity affect us." We'll find out on Thursday night. Last-Stand Thursday. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post peebag 7,617 Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2017 3-6 heading to the bye. TANK ON!!! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 35,444 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Buffalo has been a big surprise and are looking at the playoffs at the same time rebuilding and stocking up for next year. They are looking like the promising team they had when marone was there before Wrecks go his hands on the team and screw it over. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 3,406 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, peebag said: ... TANK ON!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,947 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Yes Rich Cimini grasping at straws trying to make misery where it is logically impossible. Just like some of the fans here 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post JiFapono 151,453 Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: "We're just not finishing," rookie safety Jamal Adams said. "Everybody isn't communicating and people aren't doing their job. Everybody has to do a job." I wonder who he's referring to here, specifically the people who aren't doing their jobs. And you'd think a natural born leader of men would have everyone communicating and doing their jobs. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,947 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, JiF said: I wonder who he's referring to here, specifically the people who aren't doing their jobs. It's an cryptic sentence because he does not mention lack of effort. He just says they aren't getting the job done 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 211,210 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Nothing like that BIG NATIONAL STAGE against Buffalo on a Thursday night. Is this game even on national television? Nobody is watching this game unless they have Shady in fantasy. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JiFapono 151,453 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: It's an cryptic sentence because he does not mention lack of effort. He just says they aren't getting the job done I don't think it's cryptic other not mentioning names. He's very specific siting the problems are: they're not finishing, not communicating and certain players aren't doing their job. Sometimes a player just isn't good enough to do the job their assigned. Fore example and case in point; asking Jamall Adams or Darron Lee to cover someone. It's often asked of the 2 and it's very clear they're not capable of said job. I think they're giving effort. Unfortunately, effort doesn't magically make things happen. That's where talent and skill set comes into play. Which is another problem. The talent albeit scarce, is not being used to benefit their skills. Sticking with the same example and adding a player: there should be no situation where Jamall Adams is left alone all game on Gronk. There should be no situation where Darron Lee is lined up on Jarvis Landry during obvious come from behind passing situation. There should be no reason you leave Buster Skrine alone on an island in the slot, all game long. Anywho, going a little past the comment made...but I'm wondering who Adams is referring too and if he's looking in the mirror at the same time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 94,140 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Nothing like that BIG NATIONAL STAGE against Buffalo on a Thursday night. Is this game even on national television? Nobody is watching this game unless they have Shady in fantasy. TOTAL IMPLOSION Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,947 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, JiF said: I don't think it's cryptic. He's very specific siting the problems are: they're not finishing, not communication and certain players aren't doing their job. Sometimes a player just isn't good enough to do the job their assigned. Fore example and case in point; asking Jamall Adams or Darron Lee to cover someone. It's often asked of the 2 and it's very clear they're not capable of said job. I think they're giving effort. Unfortunately, effort doesn't magically make things happen. That's where talent and skill set comes into play. Which is another problem. The talent albeit scarce, is not being used to benefit their skills. Sticking with the same example and adding a player: there should be no situation where Jamall Adams is left alone all game on Gronk. There should be no situation where Darron Lee is lined up on Jarvis Landry during obvious come from behind passing situation. There should be no reason you leave Buster Skrine alone on an island in the slot, all game long. Anywho, going a little past the comment made...but I'm wondering who Adams is referring too and if he's looking in the mirror at the same time. Given the youth of said players (apart from Skrine, who just sucks) this is not surprising. You are assessing players after one year. As people have said, teh last couple of weeks Darron Lee has begun to play better. So with growth comes better play 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 3,406 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Given the youth of said players (apart from Skrine, who just sucks) this is not surprising. You are assessing players after one year. As people have said, teh last couple of weeks Darron Lee has begun to play better. So with growth comes better play 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 25,615 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigRy56 6,522 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Total implosion eh? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post KRL 12,385 Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2017 I know it's not going to happen but it would be great if these "click bait" headlines and "fake internet panic" would disappear. The Jets in the first half of the season have proven a couple of things: - They're a young, resilient team that will fight until the end - They have an improved locker room culture - They can go toe to toe with any opponent but self-destruct at the end of games - They still have talent deficiences that have to be addressed They aren't going to implode. What they will do is probably have another 5-6 frustrating losses over they second half of the season 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,947 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, KRL said: I know it's not going to happen but it would be great if these "click bait" headlines and "fake internet panic" would disappear. The Jets in the first half of the season have proven a couple of things: - They're a young, resilient team that will fight until the end - They have an improved locker room culture - They can go toe to toe with any opponent but self-destruct at the end of games - They still have talent deficiences that have to be addressed They aren't going to implode. What they will do is probably have another 5-6 frustrating losses over they second half of the season Basically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 122,905 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The Bills sure look a lot better these days without Rex and his brother around. Kudos to that franchise for stocking up on draft picks while still finding ways to win. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 25,615 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: The Bills sure look a lot better these days without Rex and his brother around. Kudos to that franchise for stocking up on draft picks while still finding ways to win. They took out the trash its what we need to do here Bowles,Rodgers,Forte,McCown.......to the curb. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 4,183 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said: Jets head to national stage one loss away from total implosion EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- For weeks -- no, months -- the New York Jets have talked about their resolve and togetherness, how they're nothing like the dysfunctional team from last season. Their motto, hatched in the offseason by coach Todd Bowles, is "One Team, One Goal." They've got One Game to prove it. They face the surprising Buffalo Bills (5-2) on Thursday night at MetLife Stadium, and it's a last-stand kind of game for the reeling Jets, who have lost three straight after a promising 3-2 start. "This is a must-win, period, point blank," cornerback Morris Claiborne said on Sunday after the latest rerun -- a 25-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons in which they self-destructed in the fourth quarter. "We have to win this game if we want to turn this around." To emphasize his point, Claiborne punched his fist after each word, saying, "We ... have ... to ... win ... next ... week. We have to turn this around so we're still in the conversation." Josh McCown threw two touchdown passes Sunday, but the Jets lost their third straight game. AP Photo/Seth Wenig The playoff conversation, he meant. In reality, it's more than that. At 3-5, the Jets aren't realistic playoff contenders, but no one expected them to be in the hunt in the first year of the Great Rebuilding Project. Then again, the Bills weren't expected to be, either, and they're one of the hottest stories in the NFL. The Jets could be 5-3 or 6-2, if you really want to be generous, but they haven't figured out how to close games. After blowing 14-point leads in losses to the New England Patriots and Miami Dolphins, they let a one-point advantage slip away in the tropical rain forest that was MetLife Stadium. Once again, they turned to mush in the crucible of the fourth quarter. They can hang with the big boys for three quarters, but when the fourth-quarter clock starts ticking, they morph into the team everybody expected in August. They can't protect the quarterback. They stall on offense. They miss tackles. They muff punts. So who are these guys, the three-quarter Jets or the fourth-quarter Jets? If they can't figure it out against the Bills, they will have squandered a season that, for fleeting moments last month, looked like it had a chance to be special. If they lose on Thursday night, their only prime-time appearance, it'll restart the "Suck for Sam" narrative and shift the focus to 2018. "It's a must-win league, and you don't want that L column to get too big," linebacker Demario Davis said. Bowles, who is coaching for his job, has a short week to repair his team's psyche. He can start with the offense. They Jets are midway through the season and it still lacks an identity. Coordinator John Morton is leaning on 38-year-old quarterback Josh McCown, who has exceeded expectations, but some players believe the running game is under-utilized. Running back Matt Forte articulated his concerns, but he's not the only one. He's right; this offense isn't built to throw 40 to 45 times a game. The Jets have reached a pressure point. "We're just not finishing," rookie safety Jamal Adams said. "Everybody isn't communicating and people aren't doing their job. Everybody has to do a job." Wide receiver Jermaine Kearse, who won a Super Bowl ring with the Seattle Seahawks, tried to be the calm voice in the middle of the storm. He described this slump as growing pain, a necessary process. "Of course, we want to be winning in this process," he said, "but we can't let the negativity affect us." We'll find out on Thursday night. Last-Stand Thursday. i suppose if forte could break through the line without the oline giving him a hole he'd have a point about his carry total. the simple fact is the oline can't run block very well and one reason is because mccown/anderson/kearse/kerley/asj do not scare anyone with their passing. the few times when mccown can execute a play action pass, the results are great but there is just so little threat the offense is almost non-dimensional. they're lucky they've managed to score some points and actually take early leads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gas2No99 4,818 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, KRL said: I know it's not going to happen but it would be great if these "click bait" headlines and "fake internet panic" would disappear. The Jets in the first half of the season have proven a couple of things: - They're a young, resilient team that will fight until the end - They have an improved locker room culture - They can go toe to toe with any opponent but self-destruct at the end of games - They still have talent deficiences that have to be addressed They aren't going to implode. What they will do is probably have another 5-6 frustrating losses over they second half of the season Sadly that's the state of the "Jets news" nowadays in the internet/blog era. It's the modern press, and as you can see in regards to the Jets, it's ALWAYS going to be with a certain slant (non-Gurriel) to PROVOKE reaction and fodder for the talking heads on TV and reason to give the "sports journalists" Live interview time on Sports Radio shows to validate their story. I post these articles because it demonstrates the TRUE DISCONNECT between the perception by the beat writers, the attitude of the team being perceived so negatively, and the delusional fanbase that gripes about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in a self-canilbalizing circle jerk. Its' hilarious to see the commentary, reactions, and vitriol that ensues on this website in response to these "click bait" articles; Lord KNOWS it's not like we could have intelligent, civil, courteous, and eloquent debates on the merits of Jets football here instead! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 8,029 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, rangerous said: i suppose if forte could break through the line without the oline giving him a hole he'd have a point about his carry total. the simple fact is the oline can't run block very well and one reason is because mccown/anderson/kearse/kerley/asj do not scare anyone with their passing. the few times when mccown can execute a play action pass, the results are great but there is just so little threat the offense is almost non-dimensional. they're lucky they've managed to score some points and actually take early leads. the run game definitely suffers b/c mccown is the qb. if you change the wrs, teams are still playing at the LOS daring mccown to throw. if you put even alex smith or rivers as the qb, defenses are playing it differently. nevertheless, forte has no incentive to be quiet after bowles let fitz/marshall/decker/mangold do what they wanted last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckkieB 4,000 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The Jets tank is back on track. If they survive this Bills game with a loss, they will not win another game the rest of the year which with a little luck will get them the 3rd overall pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 8,029 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, ChuckkieB said: The Jets tank is back on track. If they survive this Bills game with a loss, they will not win another game the rest of the year which with a little luck will get them the 3rd overall pick. who will sit on the bench next year when bowles plays mccown or some other retread qb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 25,615 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Augustiniak said: who will sit on the bench next year when bowles plays mccown or some other retread qb. Eli Manning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crimson King 3,230 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 There is good and bad about living at the center of the world (at least until it moves to Shanghai). This is one of the negative parts. Not one of the more important issues, but the sportswriters in this town over the years have mostly been negative on the local teams. It sells more rags. This typical idiocy 'round these parts. Last Stand Thursday indeed. This guy isn't as bad as Dick Young but still needs to be ignored Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwanseaJack 44 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It’s very nice of them to put the Jets on prime time on the one week that the UK is only 4 hours ahead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebag 7,617 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, SwanseaJack said: It’s very nice of them to put the Jets on prime time on the one week that the UK is only 4 hours ahead Or very bad...depending on how you look at things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smashmouth 14,218 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Jets head to national stage one loss away from total implosion EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- For weeks -- no, months -- the New York Jets have talked about their resolve and togetherness, how they're nothing like the dysfunctional team from last season. Their motto, hatched in the offseason by coach Todd Bowles, is "One Team, One Goal." They've got One Game to prove it. They face the surprising Buffalo Bills (5-2) on Thursday night at MetLife Stadium, and it's a last-stand kind of game for the reeling Jets, who have lost three straight after a promising 3-2 start. "This is a must-win, period, point blank," cornerback Morris Claiborne said on Sunday after the latest rerun -- a 25-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons in which they self-destructed in the fourth quarter. "We have to win this game if we want to turn this around." To emphasize his point, Claiborne punched his fist after each word, saying, "We ... have ... to ... win ... next ... week. We have to turn this around so we're still in the conversation." Josh McCown threw two touchdown passes Sunday, but the Jets lost their third straight game. AP Photo/Seth Wenig The playoff conversation, he meant. In reality, it's more than that. At 3-5, the Jets aren't realistic playoff contenders, but no one expected them to be in the hunt in the first year of the Great Rebuilding Project. Then again, the Bills weren't expected to be, either, and they're one of the hottest stories in the NFL. The Jets could be 5-3 or 6-2, if you really want to be generous, but they haven't figured out how to close games. After blowing 14-point leads in losses to the New England Patriots and Miami Dolphins, they let a one-point advantage slip away in the tropical rain forest that was MetLife Stadium. Once again, they turned to mush in the crucible of the fourth quarter. They can hang with the big boys for three quarters, but when the fourth-quarter clock starts ticking, they morph into the team everybody expected in August. They can't protect the quarterback. They stall on offense. They miss tackles. They muff punts. So who are these guys, the three-quarter Jets or the fourth-quarter Jets? If they can't figure it out against the Bills, they will have squandered a season that, for fleeting moments last month, looked like it had a chance to be special. If they lose on Thursday night, their only prime-time appearance, it'll restart the "Suck for Sam" narrative and shift the focus to 2018. "It's a must-win league, and you don't want that L column to get too big," linebacker Demario Davis said. Bowles, who is coaching for his job, has a short week to repair his team's psyche. He can start with the offense. They Jets are midway through the season and it still lacks an identity. Coordinator John Morton is leaning on 38-year-old quarterback Josh McCown, who has exceeded expectations, but some players believe the running game is under-utilized. Running back Matt Forte articulated his concerns, but he's not the only one. He's right; this offense isn't built to throw 40 to 45 times a game. The Jets have reached a pressure point. "We're just not finishing," rookie safety Jamal Adams said. "Everybody isn't communicating and people aren't doing their job. Everybody has to do a job." Wide receiver Jermaine Kearse, who won a Super Bowl ring with the Seattle Seahawks, tried to be the calm voice in the middle of the storm. He described this slump as growing pain, a necessary process. "Of course, we want to be winning in this process," he said, "but we can't let the negativity affect us." We'll find out on Thursday night. Last-Stand Thursday. How could a team expected to have the worst record in the NFL be ready for total implosion ? This is a team of young players learning the NFL game with a crappy head coach so how does that equate to total implosion ? Not to mention they should be 5-2 and fighting for first place if our coaching staff had just a little brain power. If anyone should blow up it should be Todd Bowles on his way out the freakin door Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 142,160 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, JiF said: I wonder who he's referring to here, specifically the people who aren't doing their jobs. And you'd think a natural born leader of men would have everyone communicating and doing their jobs. If your job entails giving up a TD every third time a QB throws it near you, then Jamal is killing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 142,160 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: How could a team expected to have the worst record in the NFL be ready for total implosion ? This is a team of young players learning the NFL game with a crappy head coach so how does that equate to total implosion ? Not to mention they should be 5-2 and fighting for first place if our coaching staff had just a little brain power. If anyone should blow up it should be Todd Bowles on his way out the freakin door I think the calculus is this: sh*t roster+Malcontent vet criticizing coaching+Todd laying down for malcontent vet+Todd sticking with washed up QB+Young players learning that Todd is a mush+another loss=implosion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbatesman 48,644 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Bills sure look a lot better these days without Rex and his brother around. Kudos to that franchise for stocking up on draft picks while still finding ways to win. They’re just like us, except the exact opposite. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenorGato 13,959 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Bills sure look a lot better these days without Rex and his brother around. Kudos to that franchise for stocking up on draft picks while still finding ways to win. Uh the Jets got a Super Bowl contender’s second round pick so take that in the face Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BurnleyJet 8,981 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, joewilly12 said: I was on that game wet with drunk Bills fans sat round me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
section314 9,552 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Augustiniak said: the run game definitely suffers b/c mccown is the qb. if you change the wrs, teams are still playing at the LOS daring mccown to throw. if you put even alex smith or rivers as the qb, defenses are playing it differently. nevertheless, forte has no incentive to be quiet after bowles let fitz/marshall/decker/mangold do what they wanted last year. The run game suffers for one reason, and one reason only. The O-Line is pathetic. Standing in the pouring rain yesterday, and watching replays on the big screen, it was mind boggling how many times our linemen were pushed back, by yards, into the backfield. On one 3rd and 1, we gave the ball to 285 lb Lawrence Thomas, and he was basically tackled by Johnson and Winters because they were bullrushed. We can't run the ball because ouside of Shell, we don't have an Olineman who is worth a damn. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRONX DUDE 773 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, peebag said: 3-6 heading to the bye. TANK ON!!! THE TANKERS ARE BACK. ME INCLUDED. WHAT DOES A 5-11 RECORD DO FOR US/ #SUCKFORA SLOWUNDERSIZEDOLB 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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