kelly Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Nickel Package: Should Todd Bowles be in the discussion for COY ? Field Yates and Pro Football Talk's Michael David Smith discuss whether or not Todd Bowles should be in discussion for the Coach of the Year award, given how the Jets have performed compared to expectations. > http://www.espn.com/espnradio/playPopup?id=21317339 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Is he also coaching a Pop Warner team somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 No. Deeply flawed expectations does not a CotY make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 This is even worse than I expected. I fully excepted the talking heads that don't actually watch this team to line up to praise this guy if we won more than 3 games but it will go to a whole new level. It is going to be such a terrible mistake when the Jets give the guy and extension in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I posted the COY possibility in another thread to rave reviews. Normally COY is given to a HC whose team has a very good record (of course they have a lot of talent also). If the criteria were solely preseason expectation vs actual results, Bowles would be in the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: No. Deeply flawed expectations does not a CotY make. Actually, I think that is exactly what makes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If he gets 6-8 wins with this roster, I have no problem in with him receiving the award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 HAHAHAHAHA Thanks, I'm having a stressful day at work. I needed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If the Jets go 8-8 or better with this roster, then he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I think there is an inherent problem with giving the award to a coach of a sub-500 team. Don't know why, but it just feels mediocre. If he gets to 8-8, he should definitely be in the serious running for the award. On another note, it would be disappointing if the OPOY and DPOY are both players picked after the Jets picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, varjet said: I think there is an inherent problem with giving the award to a coach of a sub-500 team. Don't know why, but it just feels mediocre. If he gets to 8-8, he should definitely be in the serious running for the award. On another note, it would be disappointing if the OPOY and DPOY are both players picked after the Jets picked. just an fyi.. ~ ~ Associated Press NFL Coach of the Year Award ~ Season Coach Team Record 1990 Jimmy Johnson Dallas Cowboys 7–9 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press_NFL_Coach_of_the_Year_Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Has anyone ever got that award and was fired the same season? Asking for a friend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 In the discussion?? He IS the discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 still too early, if we make the playoffs I think so but there are some other franchises that have been struggling that have real playoff chances like in Buffalo and Jacksonville and if either of those teams made it their HCs would get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Has anyone ever got that award and was fired the same season? Asking for a friend . Well there was Marty Schottenheimer who was fired after a 14-2 season. Joe Girardi might be interested in this discussion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Oh and if this was actually a serious question....No. Pederson (PHI) and McVay (LAR) have to be the top dogs right now. Doubt anyone else has even a remote shot. The Jets would have to finish with at least a 5-2 run to even put Bowles in the running IMO. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If he gets coach of the year Morton should get the iron cross and a purple heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Bowles has as much chance of winning coach of the year as does Mohammed Wilkerson winning defensive player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If Petty had started all year he'd be getting fired instead of COTY consideration. McCown should be getting comeback player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Funny "Nickel" is in the thread title ... And one of Bowles egregious mistakes is trotting the $h*tbag Skrine out on the field series after series ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If we finish with a winning record or make the playoffs he'll be a strong candidate, considering where pre-season expectations were. Right now I'd say Doug Pederson (overall performance) and Sean McVay (exceeding expectations) are far stronger candidates though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 This may sound crazy but if the Jets get into the playoffs. Yes, he should be in the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just year? I'd say at least decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The Jets have won 4 bum fights, and right now are under .500 in a parity-wild NFL. What kind of drugs does one ingest to suggest this idiocy? What a complete load of crap. Bowles is a middling coach on his best day. Should Rosie O'Donnell be in contention for the SI swimsuit cover? Should Betty White corner the green banana market? Should Alec Baldwin enter a vow of silence monastery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If the Jets get to six wins, should they get the Super Bowl trophy? Next, on ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Bowles has as much chance of winning coach of the year as does Mohammed Wilkerson winning defensive player of the year. Except no. His chances of COY dwarf Mo's chances of DPOY. Jets' expectations, based on the roster handed to the coach = 4 wins max Mo's expectations, based on the massive contract awarded by our GM = pro bowl, if not first team all-pro (especially with Watt breaking his leg a month into the season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bugg said: The Jets have won 4 bum fights, and right now are under .500 in a parity-wild NFL. What kind of drugs does one ingest to suggest this idiocy? What a complete load of crap. Bowles is a middling coach on his best day. Should Rosie O'Donnell be in contention for the SI swimsuit cover? Should Betty White corner the green banana market? Should Alec Baldwin enter a vow of silence monastery? +1 I should ban you for foisting upon this board the visual of Rosie O in a swimsuit, though, effing a-hole that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: If the Jets get to six wins, should they get the Super Bowl trophy? Next, on ESPN. Steven A. Smith and Max Kellerman's next episode of "that show on at the gym because you can't change the channel that nobody really watches". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 We have the same record as Atlanta that should tell you all you need to know and our roster is.a joke on the offensive side of the ball. So luagh at Bowles all you want but the reality is he is better than many of the clowns on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bugg said: The Jets have won 4 bum fights, and right now are under .500 in a parity-wild NFL. What kind of drugs does one ingest to suggest this idiocy? What a complete load of crap. Bowles is a middling coach on his best day. Should Rosie O'Donnell be in contention for the SI swimsuit cover? Should Betty White corner the green banana market? Should Alec Baldwin enter a vow of silence monastery? Bugg gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Todd Bowles COY Coach of the Yaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 McAvoy for the Rams is the COY and it's not close. After him I would go with Marrone in Jacksonville, Pederson in Philly, and McDermott in Buffalo before Bowles would get a vote. But Bowles getting some credit for a good job, maybe even a top 5 job, does not bother me in the least. He's got a 38-year old QB and one of the worst supporting casts in the league, if not the worst, playing near .500 ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, Bugg said: The Jets have won 4 bum fights, and right now are under .500 in a parity-wild NFL. What kind of drugs does one ingest to suggest this idiocy? What a complete load of crap. Bowles is a middling coach on his best day. Should Rosie O'Donnell be in contention for the SI swimsuit cover? Should Betty White corner the green banana market? Should Alec Baldwin enter a vow of silence monastery? This thread is as asinine as the ‘can the Jets make the playoffs thread’. In his first year as head coach Bowles went 10-6. 10-6! Unreal. Yet we can all see that was the result of Fitz playing lights out and had squat to do with Bowles. In fact, he cost us a playoff chance in the final game that year. This team could easily go 4-12 this year and many would consider that a moral victory and extend Bowles contract. “That’s the price of love. Can you feel it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: McAvoy for the Rams is the COY and it's not close. After him I would go with Marrone in Jacksonville, Pederson in Philly, and McDermott in Buffalo before Bowles would get a vote. But Bowles getting some credit for a good job, maybe even a top 5 job, does not bother me in the least. He's got a 38-year old QB and one of the worst supporting casts in the league, if not the worst, playing near .500 ball. You are too kind my friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, BigO said: You are too kind my friend? Just ensuring the blame gets properly assigned. Firing the HC alone will not fix our problems. Vegas projected us to win 4 games, and we've already won 4 in early November. So Bowles is doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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