JetBlue Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Hey folks, I'm back from my self imposed sabbatical. Did anyone miss me? I've been lurking on the board for most of the season because I was really hoping Petty or Hackenburg would have stepped up and won the job. I just couldn't get excited about watching McCown play. It seems to be on the right track talent wise, with a nice nucleus of young players. I give McCown credit for playing better than I thought he would be he obviously is not the future. Perhaps at some point, Petty or Hackenburg may get some action and will either confirm what everyone thinks (they suck) or show that they should be considered in the mix next year. At any rate, if the team goes 8-8 I guess we would pick around 15 or something. I know it is early but what "franchise caliber" quarterbacks, if any, do you think might still be available when we pick? It will just suck to watch the Giants take one of the top quarterbacks and we miss out once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Its far more likely we sign cousins, trade for luck or use our two second round picks to move to the to of the draft to take the QB we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Whomever the Vikings don't want out of Bradford/Bridgewater should be available. Eli should be available. Most likely scenario is the Jets just bring back McCown for next year, draft someone high-ish and pretend Hackenburg never existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Drew Brees signs a 3 year 90 million contract 50 million signing bonus book it, Jets don't draft a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Drew Brees signs a 3 year 90 million contract 50 million signing bonus book it, Jets don't draft a QB. With the way the Saints are playing, with their running game and defense, this is definitely a foregone conclusion. They might be neck and neck with Philly in the NFC. Also, stresses just how important it is in today's NFL to find your QB. The saying used to be they'll run your team for a decade. Now its more like 15+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyy Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Whomever the Vikings don't want out of Bradford/Bridgewater should be available. Eli should be available. Most likely scenario is the Jets just bring back McCown for next year, draft someone high-ish and pretend Hackenburg never existed Yea LOL!!!! thats all we need is Bradford/Bridgewater they are always hurt!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 What difference does it make? They will probably draft a defensive player or O-lineman in the 1st... and another QB bust in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Drew Brees signs a 3 year 90 million contract 50 million signing bonus book it, Jets don't draft a QB.Thing is being a dome QB wouldn't work too well. His stats in outdoor games are not the same....Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I want to keep winning, I don't care about the draft. it looks like we will have some vet options such as Cousins, Bridgewater or maybe Indy looks to move Luck? and if we love any of the QBs in this draft we'll find a way to move up to get him as the fans cheer we get the player but bash b/c we traded picks then we'll boo the QB out of town w/in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I think Cousins is the guy to go after if he's available. That guy plays well every year with a revolving cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 free agent qb's for 2018. there will also be a number of rfa's like mccarron. if the jets win 7 or so games they'll probably pick 10-15 in the draft. tough place to find a top qb prospect. what the jets need is a game manager like mccown but with a better arm. the thing is it may still be hack. PLAYER (29) POS. AGE FROM TO GP PAYDS PATD RUYDS RUTD INT FUM 2017 AAV STATUS MARKET VALUE Drew Brees QB 38 NO TBD 7 1,951 11 1 1 4 2 $24,250,000 UFA - Kirk Cousins QB 29 WAS TBD 7 1,900 13 121 1 4 7 $23,943,600 UFA Market Value Sam Bradford QB 29 MIN TBD 2 382 3 -3 $18,000,000 UFA Market Value Jay Cutler QB 34 MIA TBD 6 995 7 20 5 1 $10,000,000 UFA - Josh McCown QB 38 NYJ TBD 8 1,840 12 57 2 7 8 $6,000,000 UFA - Drew Stanton QB 33 ARI TBD 1 66 4 1 1 $3,250,000 UFA - Chad Henne QB 32 JAC TBD 1 -3 $3,250,000 UFA - Ryan Fitzpatrick QB 34 TB TBD 2 290 3 10 2 $3,000,000 UFA - Derek Anderson QB 34 CAR TBD 1 17 $2,350,000 UFA - Mark Sanchez QB 30 CHI TBD $2,000,000 UFA - Case Keenum QB 29 MIN TBD 7 1,610 7 64 3 $2,000,000 UFA - Matt Moore QB 33 MIA TBD 2 364 2 3 $1,775,000 UFA - Scott Tolzien QB 30 IND TBD 1 128 2 2 1 $1,750,000 UFA - Teddy Bridgewater QB 25 MIN TBD $1,712,376 UFA - Geno Smith QB 27 NYG TBD $1,200,000 UFA - Kellen Clemens QB 34 LAC TBD $1,000,000 UFA - Tyler Bray QB 25 KC TBD $962,500 UFA - Chase Daniel QB 31 NO TBD $900,000 UFA - Joe Webb QB 30 BUF TBD 7 $900,000 UFA - Josh Johnson QB 31 HOU TBD $900,000 UFA - Blaine Gabbert QB 28 ARI TBD $895,000 UFA - Jimmy Garoppolo QB 26 SF TBD $870,975 UFA - Austin Davis QB 28 SEA TBD 1 -1 $855,000 UFA - E.J. Manuel QB 27 OAK TBD 2 265 1 15 1 $800,000 UFA - Brock Osweiler QB 26 DEN TBD 1 18 -1 $775,000 UFA - Brandon Weeden QB 34 TEN TBD 1 $775,000 UFA - T.J. Yates QB 30 HOU TBD $775,000 UFA - David Fales QB 27 MIA TBD $690,000 UFA - Tom Savage QB 27 HOU TBD 2 62 2 $630,146 UFA - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 11 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Whomever the Vikings don't want out of Bradford/Bridgewater should be available. Eli should be available. Most likely scenario is the Jets just bring back McCown for next year, draft someone high-ish and pretend Hackenburg never existed Bradford is done and even if Bridgewater does play again he is one hit away from retirement Macagnan will sign McCown to a three year extension and draft another dud qb in the third or 4th round and we’ll be back to square one end of next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 6 hours ago, RoadFan said: What difference does it make? They will probably draft a defensive player or O-lineman in the 1st... and another QB bust in the 2nd. You basically just scripted the next offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 11 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Its far more likely we sign cousins, trade for luck or use our two second round picks to move to the to of the draft to take the QB we want. Offer the colts our entire draft for Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 At 8-8, most QB's not named Darnold, Rosen or Allen will likely still be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: At 8-8, most QB's not named Darnold, Rosen or Allen will likely still be available. Agreed which is why this has been a very frustrating season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I wouldn't cross out Brees for 3 years with the Morton Bates connection & running the same type of offense. The only difference being defenses can't pack it in on Brees as he'll tear you up with his deep accuracy & quick release. I don't even know what it's like to cheer for a QB that can change a play at the LOS and burn them. Or move into a hurry up to take advantage of a defense with the wrong personnel on the field. MetLife would be ELECTRIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Agreed which is why this has been a very frustrating season. We shouldn't allow frustration to make us insane. For example, trading an entire draft for a broke-winged over-hyped Luck..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Warfish said: We shouldn't allow frustration to make us insane. For example, trading an entire draft for a broke-winged over-hyped Luck..... “Over-hyped”lol you are a funny guy Don’t worry your hero Fitzpatrick will be available maybe Macc can give him another $20 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: “Over-hyped”lol you are a funny guy Don’t worry your hero Fitzpatrick will be available maybe Macc can give him another $20 million Remind me how many playoff games Luck has won so far? He's over-hyped till he proves otherwise. i.e. till he wins something. Or at least plays again.... And with the badly broke wing, I wouldn't hold my breath on that coming in the near future. I don't want either Fitz or McCown, you might want to keep up. Arguments from years ago don't hold much relevance today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 11 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Whomever the Vikings don't want out of Bradford/Bridgewater should be available. Eli should be available. Most likely scenario is the Jets just bring back McCown for next year, draft someone high-ish and pretend Hackenburg never existed that sounds like mccagnan. he would basically be replicating what he saw the texans do for years when they kept losing with schaub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Remind me how many playoff games Luck has won so far? He's over-hyped till he proves otherwise. i.e. till he wins something. Or at least plays again.... And with the badly broke wing, I wouldn't hold my breath on that coming in the near future. I don't want either Fitz or McCown, you might want to keep up. Arguments from years ago don't hold much relevance today. Luck’s played on nothing but horrible teams. You are just mad your favorite player in the nfl ever embarrassed himself last year with receivers Luck wishes he had But hey I digress you are doctor and have access to Andrew Luck’s medical records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 We got two 2nd round picks. If we are drafting around 15 I feel it be to easy to trade up to 8-10 without selling the farm and grab one of the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: We got two 2nd round picks. If we are drafting around 15 I feel it be to easy to trade up to 8-10 without selling the farm and grab one of the top 4 I’m hoping the hype for Mayfield keeps building so Lamar or Josh Allen can be there when we pick between 12-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Luck’s played on nothing but horrible teams. You are just mad your favorite player in the nfl ever embarrassed himself last year with receivers Luck wishes he had But hey I digress you are doctor and have access to Andrew Luck’s medical records My favorite player in the NFL ever is Al Toon. And Nick Mangold. And Wayne Chrebet. Fitz wouldn't be in my top 1,000. Keep deflecting if you like, clearly you can't defend your argument and hence need to deflect. Luck isn't nearly as good as many think, he was not the "one in a generation" talent hyped up, and now he's a QB with a badly broken wing and a VERY questionable future. I don't trade an entire draft class for that. I'll just draft a QB out of this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, nyjunc said: I want to keep winning, I don't care about the draft. it looks like we will have some vet options such as Cousins, Bridgewater or maybe Indy looks to move Luck? and if we love any of the QBs in this draft we'll find a way to move up to get him as the fans cheer we get the player but bash b/c we traded picks then we'll boo the QB out of town w/in 3 years. I'd like to see them keep on winning but we won't until we get a viable option at qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: My favorite player in the NFL ever is Al Toon. And Nick Mangold. And Wayne Chrebet. Fitz wouldn't be in my top 1,000. Keep deflecting if you like, clearly you can't defend your argument and hence need to deflect. Luck isn't nearly as good as many think, he was not the "one in a generation" talent hyped up, and now he's a QB with a badly broken wing and a VERY questionable future. I don't trade an entire draft class for that. I'll just draft a QB out of this class. Yeah but Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t a qb in this draft The colts are a horror show the fact that Luck made them even competitive for years speaks volumes you know nothing go sell a website for ten cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 hours ago, peebag said: I'd like to see them keep on winning but we won't until we get a viable option at qb. the goal is always to get a longterm starter, hopefully some day soon we will. we have been trying since the 70s, we have had one real long term starter and he wasn't very good. if they were easy to find we'd have one by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Mason Rudolph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Trade our 2 2nd rounders for Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Am I the only one left who still believes in Matt Simms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkajet01 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I wouldn't cross out Brees for 3 years with the Morton Bates connection & running the same type of offense. The only difference being defenses can't pack it in on Brees as he'll tear you up with his deep accuracy & quick release. I don't even know what it's like to cheer for a QB that can change a play at the LOS and burn them. Or move into a hurry up to take advantage of a defense with the wrong personnel on the field. MetLife would be ELECTRIC!Brees is old are u judging me? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Matt Moore starting Josh Allen #2 Hackenburg #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Matt Moore starting Josh Allen #2 Hackenburg #3 Reading this hurt so much that it has to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 19 hours ago, Warfish said: At 8-8, most QB's not named Darnold, Rosen or Allen will likely still be available. I'm on the Baker Mayfield train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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