joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 A neighbor needed a quick fix for an old bathroom house was built in 1965 so he had the contractors come in and he didn't like what they told him total gut job takes weeks so he hired the Bath Fitter they came in and covered everything up with a new tub, fiberglass walls looked nice........weeks later floor feels mushy so he hires a floor guy who finds the floor soaked and loaded with mold which went under the tub/shower so the guy removed the tub and under the tub was more rot and mold along with the walls being totally shot...needless to say they are living in local hotel while the contractor guts the bathroom and redoes the plumbing, electric,insulation,studs,floor joists, sheetrock,tile you name it. I looked at it and told him gut the place its the only way you know its done right, he decided to hire the Bath Fitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 How does putting a mold over the tub cause water under the original tub? We need answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Larz said: How does putting a mold over the tub cause water under the original tub? We need answers There was a water leak all along they had tile falling off in the tub area bath fitter pulled off the loose tile on the water soaked walls and glued the fiberglass walls to it. They make a moisture meter they should have tested the integrity of the walls. Larz do you work for bath fitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Bath fitters is a bad idea that appeals to those with limited resources or just too plain cheap to do it right. It doesnt fix anything. It puts a mask on things all the while letting underlying problems continue to worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 not true at all. for the price bath fitters gets you a huge improvement on a budget. If the tub was working fine before, just outdated, it doesnt take much to put nice new walls and a tub in to cover everything up. I think what happened is the drain connection got screwed up. water probably soaked under the new drain, entered the old tub that now has a drain removed, and seeped under the old tub on to the wood floor. Its not rocket science. Thats about the only thing that could go wrong. so since its all covered, you dont know its leaking until mold smell starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Considering what it costs to redo a bathroom from scratch ($10-20M or more), sometimes the bath fitter is the only solution. Doesn't do much for selling your home later on though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: not true at all. for the price bath fitters gets you a huge improvement on a budget. If the tub was working fine before, just outdated, it doesnt take much to put nice new walls and a tub in to cover everything up. I think what happened is the drain connection got screwed up. water probably soaked under the new drain, entered the old tub that now has a drain removed, and seeped under the old tub on to the wood floor. Its not rocket science. Thats about the only thing that could go wrong. so since its all covered, you dont know its leaking until mold smell starts Here in the northeast (and many parts of the USA) almost all homes are stick built and most 20+ year old bathrooms will have some degree of moisture damage to subfloor, floor joists, moldy and damp sheetrock and insulation behind the wall tile (esp if there is a window sill) and mold beneath the tub and often times termite infestation. Termites love damp wood. I am not pullng this from thin air. My experience spans 35 years. In Florida where most homes are predominantly CBS (concrete block stucco) with concrete slab floors this is not a problem so long as the plumbing (supply and waste) is sound So yeah I would agree in Fla it most often be a reasonable approach but def not all parts of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Fair enough but even up north just because its old doesnt mean its leaky. Im sure a lot of places are bone dry. But i get your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 What the hell is bath fitters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Fair enough but even up north just because its old doesnt mean its leaky. Im sure a lot of places are bone dry. But i get your point Yes agree. A reasonably well maintained home usually doesnt get to the poor state I had described but OTOH so many homeowners are clueless as to whats happening inside ceilings, walls and floors despite the obvious signs of problems it still amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 38 minutes ago, The Crusher said: What the hell is bath fitters? Bath fitters is a lower cost alternative to bathtub / shower area renovation. It covers the existing tub, tiled walls and shower areas with "custom made & fitted" polycarbonate covers essentially leaving the existing bathtub and surrounding walls in place but hidden. Depending on level of service paid for faucets, valve bodies, drains etc may also be changed. Sometimes but not always it is like putting lipstick on a pig and only serves to hide underlying problems letting them worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Bath fitters is a lower cost alternative to bathtub / shower area renovation. It covers the existing tub, tiled walls and shower areas with "custom made & fitted" polycarbonate covers essentially leaving the existing bathtub and surrounding walls in place but hidden. Depending on level of service paid for faucets, valve bodies, drains etc may also be changed. Sometimes but not always it is like putting lipstick on a pig and only serves to hide underlying problems letting them worsen. Interesting. Lucky for me my family just hoses my fat ass off in the yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 The leak was over years loose tiles bad grout in the shower area the water got behind the tiles I guess. The homeowner noticed the floor being soft 3 days after the bath fitter did the install after he decided to inspect the tile floor and wanted to replace it everything underneath the tile was wet moldy and rotten as were the walls behind the bath fitter. These guys only lick and stick new stuff over everything and anything. Needless to say he is contemplating a lawsuit but knowing him he wont and will just spend money fixing and using this as a life lesson learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 9 hours ago, The Crusher said: Interesting. Lucky for me my family just hoses my fat ass off in the yard. Your neighbors must have a lot of fun with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 hours ago, The Crusher said: What the hell is bath fitters? Not sure. I’m doing an addition right now, adding a master suite. I guess I shouldn’t call them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: Not sure. I’m doing an addition right now, adding a master suite. I guess I shouldn’t call them? New addition to home / new construction, no this is not something you need if a bathroom is being built as part of the new construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Kleckineau said: Your neighbors must have a lot of fun with that! They throw me peanuts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: Not sure. I’m doing an addition right now, adding a master suite. I guess I shouldn’t call them? It’s seems to be like a condom for your bathroom. Go bare back !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 6:20 PM, joewilly12 said: There was a water leak all along they had tile falling off in the tub area bath fitter pulled off the loose tile on the water soaked walls and glued the fiberglass walls to it. They make a moisture meter they should have tested the integrity of the walls. Larz do you work for bath fitter? Bathfitters is probably a franchize. Homeowner is partiallyat at fault here.... this type of leak , tiles falling, should have gotten a contractor in for an opinion before simply covering the problem. The leak , as you explain it, was not caused by bathfitters correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, southparkcpa said: Bathfitters is probably a franchize. Homeowner is partiallyat at fault here.... this type of leak , tiles falling, should have gotten a contractor in for an opinion before simply covering the problem. The leak , as you explain it, was not caused by bathfitters correct? Never said it was caused by Bath Fitters they should have recognized a more serious problem and notified the homeowner instead of covering it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Never said it was caused by Bath Fitters they should have recognized a more serious problem and notified the homeowner instead of covering it up. They're not plumbers, they're beauticians. Be like suing the guy at the car wash for not warning you that your transmission is going. Sounds like they did exactly what the homeowner asked them to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, slats said: They're not plumbers, they're beauticians. Be like suing the guy at the car wash for not warning you that your transmission is going. Sounds like they did exactly what the homeowner asked them to do. Nope false, they called them to re-new the bath tub shower area tiles were falling off the wall. They covered water damaged/soaked walls and put an acrylic bathtub over a cast iron tub. They used a lot of glue. They had to have known the walls were damaged for a reason they said nothing. The contractor on the job now is gutting the entire bathroom and he was going to try and re-use the bath fitter products last I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 hours ago, slats said: They're not plumbers, they're beauticians. Be like suing the guy at the car wash for not warning you that your transmission is going. Sounds like they did exactly what the homeowner asked them to do. Precisely. When someone is quoted 15-20K for a true bathroom remodel and then Bathfitters quote comes in at 65% less well......... People are hoping for something magical and too often wind up with a cheap parlor trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Kleckineau said: Precisely. When someone is quoted 15-20K for a true bathroom remodel and then Bathfitters quote comes in at 65% less well......... People are hoping for something magical and too often wind up with a cheap parlor trick I agree 110% and thats why I made this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 When we rehabbed our bathroom, had no idea what we might find, but knew there was leaking. Guy who owned the house before us was a NYC Sanit man who literally took stuff out of the garbage and added to the house himself. And what we found was behind walls he had used old newspaper rather than insulation, which wasn't all that unusual. But more bizarre under the tub, apparently not trusting his own plumbing ability, he built a catch bucket under the drain. He did not do any kind of math to consider drainage and evaporation, and there was damage. But remarkably no mold. Contractor was amazed. Bath fitters sounds like a really bad way to get a mold problem going in your bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bugg said: When we rehabbed our bathroom, had no idea what we might find, but knew there was leaking. Guy who owned the house before us was a NYC Sanit man who literally took stuff out of the garbage and added to the house himself. And what we found was behind walls he had used old newspaper rather than insulation, which wasn't all that unusual. But more bizarre under the tub, apparently not trusting his own plumbing ability, he built a catch bucket under the drain. He did not do any kind of math to consider drainage and evaporation, and there was damage. But remarkably no mold. Contractor was amazed. Bath fitters sounds like a really bad way to get a mold problem going in your bathroom. That sounds like a disaster. My moms neighbor was doing a bathroom renovation project and found the previous homeowner used garden hose to get water supply to the 2nd floor added bathroom, he added the bathroom with no permits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 6:20 PM, joewilly12 said: There was a water leak all along they had tile falling off in the tub area bath fitter pulled off the loose tile on the water soaked walls and glued the fiberglass walls to it. They make a moisture meter they should have tested the integrity of the walls. Larz do you work for bath fitter? No, I have common sense. Any company you hire has aces and fools Sometimes you get the fool Doesn't mean there is something wrong with the product or company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 My moms bathfitter is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 i'd take a teamfitter for the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 12/3/2017 at 7:25 PM, HighPitch said: My moms bathfitter is great Your Mom is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 12/3/2017 at 6:16 PM, Larz said: Doesn't mean there is something wrong with the product or company Why cover up sh*t? Why cover up mold? Why cover up a worn out old bath tub? Remove and replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 She cab be a byatch tho at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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