kelly Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 > http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-7/Leonard-Williams-Is-on-a-QB-Hitting-Streak/f92242d2-a908-440f-a72c-6e125ebf7062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 ' Not sure he even has enough for a UAV yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Wow Counting QB hits now, its like almost an interception, or almost a TD catch. Just classic fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 He is going to get a QB hit per game I hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: He is going to get a QB hit per game I hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Between him almost hitting the QB, Jenkins redirecting runners and Lee almost getting his head around in coverage and Adams almost plays, the Jets are close to something, not sure what but they’re close!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Far be it from me to restrain people from mocking some random Jets fluff piece, but honestly, 3rd in the league in QB hits is really impressive. High hit total/low sack total also tends to regress to the mean, so hopefully the latter number starts catching up to the former these last six games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 If Mo Wilk had been even playing half sassed Williams would have the stats. The mode right now is double Williams and let some 7th round jag handle mo wilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Far be it from me to restrain people from mocking some random Jets fluff piece, but honestly, 3rd in the league in QB hits is really impressive. High hit total/low sack total also tends to regress to the mean, so hopefully the latter number starts catching up to the former these last six games. If it keeps us from drafting defense in the first round next year I applaud whatever level of accomplishment this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He's goin' to get at least 3 QB hits per game i hear ! cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If Mo Wilk had been even playing half sassed Williams would have the stats. The mode right now is double Williams and let some 7th round jag handle mo wilk. cool !.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, kelly said: cool !.. Leonard seems like a very nice kid with nice friends. His buddy to the left lifting Darron Lee up so he can be in the picture too gets my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Leonard seems like a very nice kid with nice friends. His buddy to the left lifting Darron Lee up so he can be in the picture too gets my respect. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: If Mo Wilk had been even playing half sassed Williams would have the stats. The mode right now is double Williams and let some 7th round jag handle mo wilk. Exactly! Just get one damn pass rusher in here to take the heat off of Leo the Lion & he'll feast. Could imagine Von Miller, Clowney, Barr, Beasley, Clairborne or Ansah, coming off the edge? Leonard Williams is the last of the Jets problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Leonard seems like a very nice kid with nice friends. His buddy to the left lifting Darron Lee up so he can be in the picture too gets my respect. Thats Mauldin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 57 minutes ago, pointman said: Thats Mauldin! Teamwork!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Amazing that folks would mock Leonard Williams and the article. People don't see how important QB hits are to the defense and the disruption of the offense? OK........................ But please continue................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Amazing that folks would mock Leonard Williams and the article. People don't see how important QB hits are to the defense and the disruption of the offense? OK........................ But please continue................. I think most fans understand Leo is a good player and that pressures and QB hits are valuable. Just gotta have fun with his "streak". If we had an edge rusher Leo would thrive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Amazing that folks would mock Leonard Williams and the article. People don't see how important QB hits are to the defense and the disruption of the offense? OK........................ But please continue................. When he said he wanted a sack every game.. and then put up a grand total of 1 in 10 games... he opens himself up for some criticism. He isn't the world beater as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 saw this.. ~ ~ Top 25 under 25: Leonard Williams Williams is so good and so versatile that he can play multiple positions on the defensive line effectively. > http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/21424035/nfl-top-25-25-players-2017-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Amazing that folks would mock Leonard Williams and the article. People don't see how important QB hits are to the defense and the disruption of the offense? OK........................ But please continue................. ..gotcha ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 hours ago, pointman said: When he said he wanted a sack every game.. and then put up a grand total of 1 in 10 games... he opens himself up for some criticism. He isn't the world beater as expected. talk to the.. ... Lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 20 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I think most fans understand Leo is a good player and that pressures and QB hits are valuable. Just gotta have fun with his "streak". If we had an edge rusher Leo would thrive IMO. agreed !.. the.. ... " Big Cat " would ROCK ! ! cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 23 hours ago, Beerfish said: If Mo Wilk had been even playing half sassed Williams would have the stats. The mode right now is double Williams and let some 7th round jag handle mo wilk. How many years are we going to continue with this narrative before we finally admit he’s not stud. A good player, yes, but not a star If all you had to do is double guys, which when i watch he never is, why are guys like Donald, still dominating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: How many years are we going to continue with this narrative before we finally admit he’s not stud. A good player, yes, but not a star If all you had to do is double guys, which when i watch he never is, why are guys like Donald, still dominating I do not disagree with this at all. He is good but not a stud but my previous comment stands it makes it tougher when the guy beside you is not even trying. I also think he might end up being a Aaron donald like stud if the coach had a brain and moved him around on the line to take advantage of matchups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 "Sacks are the most overrated stat in football." - Bill Belicheck I agree with this. Putting pressure, flushing a quarterback out of pocket, which distrupts offense's designed play is what's most important. Sacks help for yardage lost of course but they're overrated. http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4697154/bill-belichicks-d-line-evaluation "This highlights a point that Belichick has made in the past about quarterbacks sacks being an overrated stat, because it doesn't account for overthrows forced and pressure on the quarterback." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On November 16, 2017 at 2:43 PM, bla bla bla said: I think most fans understand Leo is a good player and that pressures and QB hits are valuable. Just gotta have fun with his "streak". If we had an edge rusher Leo would thrive IMO. Sorry, but if your game is dependent on another good DL, you weren't worth the #6 pick. You can stick guys like Kris Jenkins and J.J. Watt (and at one point Albert Haynesworth) next to anyone and they'll still jump off the screen. Everything else is just an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On November 16, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Brown said: Amazing that folks would mock Leonard Williams and the article. People don't see how important QB hits are to the defense and the disruption of the offense? OK........................ But please continue................. It means he's a half step too slow. There are plenty of guys who get almost sacks. The guy is an above average dlineman, but he's not even close to dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 18 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Sorry, but if your game is dependent on another good DL, you weren't worth the #6 pick. You can stick guys like Kris Jenkins and J.J. Watt (and at one point Albert Haynesworth) next to anyone and they'll still jump off the screen. Everything else is just an excuse. Yea I'm sure having Julius Peppers and Calvin Pace in their primes had nothing to do with Jenkins' stats and Haynesworth's best years were when he had Vanden Bosch rushing off the edge. JJ Watt is a once in a generation player, if we are going to say the only good DEs can do what Watt has done there will never be a good DE again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 19 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Sorry, but if your game is dependent on another good DL, you weren't worth the #6 pick. You can stick guys like Kris Jenkins and J.J. Watt (and at one point Albert Haynesworth) next to anyone and they'll still jump off the screen. Everything else is just an excuse. Kris Seferian Jenkins just couldn't stay healthy but could you imagine him in this defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I’d trade Williams to move up for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I’d trade Williams to move up for a QB. In a heartbeat. Hell, I’d trade him, Lee, and Adams for a QB.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Yea I'm sure having Julius Peppers and Calvin Pace in their primes had nothing to do with Jenkins' stats and Haynesworth's best years were when he had Vanden Bosch rushing off the edge. JJ Watt is a once in a generation player, if we are going to say the only good DEs can do what Watt has done there will never be a good DE again. Stop it with your nonsense. It's not a coincidence that these dominant DL produce wherever they are and regardless of who they play with. Jenkins was dominant in Carolina and then in NYJ without Peppers. And did you really just argue that Calvin Pace (13 seasons, 0 Pro Bowls) made Jenkins better? I shouldn't even dignify that with a response. The 2007 defense was swiss cheese, especially against the run. Kris Jenkins single handedly changed it. The guy was throwing grown men around like they were children. And he didn't need Calvin Pace to do it. John Abraham is another guy who used to jump off the screen, no matter who was playing next to him. He produced with the Jets. He produced with the Falcons. He produced with the Cardinals. So enough with the excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 more re L.Williams.. > http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-dl-leonard-williams-better-results-health-improve-article-1.3647087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why Jets' Leonard Williams' productivity has increased lately.. > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/11/why_leonard_williams_productivity_has_increased_la.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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