TuscanyTile2 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 He thinks McCown deserves it because he's been "selfless" and "the ultimate team player". He writes the following (apparently) without realizing that being historically bad was EXACTLY what this franchise needed: "Without McCown, this Jets team would be exactly what we thought it would be before the season began — possibly historically bad." https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/an-unpopular-argument-for-giving-josh-mccown-your-loyalty/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 In the words of Bill Muny, "Deserve has got nothing to do with it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I think Canizzarro should start eating salads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 TO be fair, the article is called “an unpopular argument” so he knows he’s going against current Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 He still writes about the Jets? I thought he stopped when he couldn't sell VIP memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: He still writes about the Jets? I thought he stopped when he couldn't sell VIP memberships. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Nice when a guy who is with the team every day validates what you'e been saying all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 This may make sense if Josh McCown was playing out his 12th season with the team and the team owed him an ounce of loyalty. That’s not the case here. The only reason He’s even a Jet is because Macc was the only GM dumb enough to pay him to be a starter. No one else even sniffed him at that. It makes literally zero sense to continue this string. It doesn’t benefit the Jets or their young players, especially the ones who play the QB position. There have been 10 weeks to evaluate the young offensive players with a below average quarterback at the helm. Now it’s time to see what Petty and Hack can do and if there is anything salvageable there at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: This may make sense if Josh McCown was playing out his 12th season with the team and the team owed him an ounce of loyalty. That’s not the case here. The only reason He’s even a Jet is because Macc was the only GM dumb enough to pay him to be a starter. No one else even sniffed him at that. It makes literally zero sense to continue this string. It doesn’t benefit the Jets or their young players, especially the ones who play the QB position. There have been 10 weeks to evaluate the young offensive players with a below average quarterback at the helm. Now it’s time to see what Petty and Hack can do and if there is anything salvageable there at all. Pay him to be a starter? 6m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 There just seems to be a major disconnect with the way the media views this Jets team and the way the fans do. Usually they are in some sort of lockstep. But not this year. It’s very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Oh. OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, Pac said: Nice when a guy who is with the team every day validates what you'e been saying all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The media is obviously very influenced by the Jets organization. Many die hard fans want to see the Jets lose out so we get a high draft pick for next year, while also seeing how the young players play. Don't you think that is fair to the young players too? The organization, from top down, does not want to lose. They just don't. They want to keep the stadium filled. Now the Giants, who were supposed to be a SB contender, have crashed. But at this point they are going to keep the nose of the plan pointed downward until it hits earth. They will get a very high draft pick, draft a QB who can learn under Eli, and get 4 years of a rookie contract from him. With the money saved, they will sign other players. I guarantee you the Giants get deep into the playoffs during those next 4 years. Hopefully the Jets can at least draft a high value player high, like an EDGE, someone who otherwise will be very expensive, because Cousins or Garrapolo could be the best QB option here, and they will be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, varjet said: The media is obviously very influenced by the Jets organization. Many die hard fans want to see the Jets lose out so we get a high draft pick for next year, while also seeing how the young players play. Don't you think that is fair to the young players too? The organization, from top down, does not want to lose. They just don't. They want to keep the stadium filled. Now the Giants, who were supposed to be a SB contender, have crashed. But at this point they are going to keep the nose of the plan pointed downward until it hits earth. They will get a very high draft pick, draft a QB who can learn under Eli, and get 4 years of a rookie contract from him. With the money saved, they will sign other players. I guarantee you the Giants get deep into the playoffs during those next 4 years. Hopefully the Jets can at least draft a high value player high, like an EDGE, someone who otherwise will be very expensive, because Cousins or Garrapolo could be the best QB option here, and they will be expensive. Why aren’t the Giants playing Davis Webb then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 For all of McCown's sorrows that he may feel for getting benched so the young backups can play, the $6 mil that the NY Jets are paying him should dry away any tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The article reads like McCown helped to improve the performance of those around him and if that is true, maybe Cannizzaro has a point but that is a stretch without significant insider information or a deal that he comes back to coach with the Jets if they let him start the rest of the year... The uncomfortable part of the article infers that the Jets somehow owe him for being such a good guy, they are paying him $7-8m with the starting bonus money and WTF does this statement have anything to do with the NFL "That isn’t fair and shouldn’t happen for a number of reasons" - that sounds more like a jilted teen after their childhood sports hero just got cut or traded - the post has nothing on the Jets sounds more like an Eli article but McCown did not win two SB'a for the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Pay him to be a starter? 6m? Plus incentives it could be 8.5 mil if he plays 50% of the snaps for the whole season. For a guy with 2 wins in 3yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, JetFaninMI said: Plus incentives it could be 8.5 mil if he plays 50% of the snaps for the whole season. For a guy with 2 wins in 3yrs. Really? 8,5m is a few million than the Eagles gave Chase Daniel to be backup QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Maxman said: He still writes about the Jets? I thought he stopped when he couldn't sell VIP memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Plus incentives it could be 8.5 mil if he plays 50% of the snaps for the whole season. For a guy with 2 wins in 3yrs. so now he's got 6. for the past few seasons the jets have been grossly underpaying the qb position. oh i' sure people are going to say "but fitz wasn't worth 12 million". that may be the case but the argument isn't about what this guy or that guy makes it's about how much they've spent. if they held onto sanchez they would've been spending more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Really? 8,5m is a few million than the Eagles gave Chase Daniel to be backup QB Actually they signed him to start but Wentz beat him out.Add in the fact that Daniel is light years younger than McCown in football years and you get the idea.. Just pointing out the info you left out. You know like you usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 There is no arguing McCown has been very good. His contributions has helped develop some of our younger players on the offensive side of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: He thinks McCown deserves it because he's been "selfless" and "the ultimate team player". He writes the following (apparently) without realizing that being historically bad was EXACTLY what this franchise needed: "Without McCown, this Jets team would be exactly what we thought it would be before the season began — possibly historically bad." https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/an-unpopular-argument-for-giving-josh-mccown-your-loyalty/ while i don't think the jets will learn much more about petty or hack by playing them they also know that keeping mccown in isn't going to get them any extra wins. they might finish with 6 depending on how the next two play out. but they also may finish with 4. mccown has certainly showed some good skill and he has been the guy to start since he was the only qb who gave them an honest chance at winning. those days are over. they owe him nothing at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, rangerous said: so now he's got 6. for the past few seasons the jets have been grossly underpaying the qb position. oh i' sure people are going to say "but fitz wasn't worth 12 million". that may be the case but the argument isn't about what this guy or that guy makes it's about how much they've spent. if they held onto sanchez they would've been spending more. Yeah don't forget the 28 losses since 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The Jets are not the feel good caring and sharing story in the NFL Time for change I say Josh McCown should sit the bench the remaining games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 "Mark Cannizzaro Thinks [...]" hahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Cannizzaro’s long-held belief is that the Jets are the hideous sister who should be happy to bone any mediocre slag who knocks on the door. He loved Herm (for the Jets), loved Rex (for the Jets), and now loves McCown (for the Jets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: Cannizzaro’s long-held belief is that the Jets are your hideous sister that should be happy to bone any mediocre slag who knocks on the door. He loved Herm (for the Jets), loved Rex (for the Jets), and now loves McCown (for the Jets). He doesn't love you. Live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: He doesn't love you. Live with that. I aspire toward Cannizzaro mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Pac said: Nice when a guy who is with the team every day validates what you'e been saying all along. Good Grief!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I aspire toward Cannizzaro mediocrity Herm Edwards is a top 5 coach. Top 5 is not mediocrity, dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The way I am looking at it, this was Macc and Bowles mulligan. Either they draft a QB very high next year Or there needs to be a playoff mandate on both HC and FO. If they continue to refuse to build for the future and insist on winning now, then they better win now. Next year will be year 4 for them and the 8th consecutive year we have been out of the playoffs. That’s our longest drought since the 70s. Im sick of the short cut remedy and lack of urgency for the QB position. Playoffs or they are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: There is no arguing McCown has been very good. His contributions has helped develop some of our younger players on the offensive side of the ball What younger players? Forte? Kearse and Kerley? McCown is very limited with what he brings to the table. While he did stabilize the position, he can’t win games. Once the team falls behind, they are done. McCown wins when our running game goes off. When teams stop our running game (like TB did) we are getting beat. And I noticed everyone is all over McCown now, but let’s see how everyone is feeling after the next 4 games, when the meat of our schedule comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Josh McCown is an NFL loser QB statistics don't lie. Did the Jets think that they were going to change all this. For this decision and previously Fitzpatrick I want Mike Maccagnan fired we can do so much bette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Cannizzaro’s long-held belief is that the Jets are the hideous sister who should be happy to bone any mediocre slag who knocks on the door. He loved Herm (for the Jets), loved Rex (for the Jets), and now loves McCown (for the Jets). Yet she still wouldn’t bang Cannizzaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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