C Mart Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) 11/20/17, 10:17 AM Broncos have promoted their QB coach Bill Musgrave t offensive coordinator, per source. Former OC Mike McCoy has been let go, as @RapSheet reported. Talk about a rough year: Former Broncos OC and Chargers HC Mike McCoy now has been fired twice in the past 10+ months. McCoy was a popular name here 10-11 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 OC is the worst occupation in all of coaching. You always get the blame and often get no credit when things go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Yup, it's Mccoy's fault Elway thought the three headed monster of Semien/Osweiller/Lynch was good enough to lead the offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Gun to his head, Elway would have told you their offense would tank once Peyton retired. No matter who was the OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, C Mart said: Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) 11/20/17, 10:17 AM Broncos have promoted their QB coach Bill Musgrave t offensive coordinator, per source. Former OC Mike McCoy has been let go, as @RapSheet reported. Talk about a rough year: Former Broncos OC and Chargers HC Mike McCoy now has been fired twice in the past 10+ months. McCoy was a popular name here 10-11 months ago. You're so right!!! I thought McCoy was an offensive genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, C Mart said: Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) 11/20/17, 10:17 AM Broncos have promoted their QB coach Bill Musgrave t offensive coordinator, per source. Former OC Mike McCoy has been let go, as @RapSheet reported. Talk about a rough year: Former Broncos OC and Chargers HC Mike McCoy now has been fired twice in the past 10+ months. McCoy was a popular name here 10-11 months ago. Hmmm wasn't he the guy everyone was saying was waaaayyyy better than Bowles I forget..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 OC's are only as good as their starting QB (except if your Schitty, then you suck regardless). McCoy didn't have a chance in Denver with the QBs they chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: OC is the worst occupation in all of coaching. You always get the blame and often get no credit when things go well. I'm don't know. These OCs who get to work with good QBs seem to get head coaching jobs. Bill O'Brien, Joe Philbin, Adam Gase, etc. O'Brien coaches Tom Brady and all of a sudden he's a QB whisperer. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, SMC said: OC's are only as good as their starting QB (except if your Schitty, then you suck regardless). McCoy didn't have a chance in Denver with the QBs they chose. Belicheat could install a monkey as the OC and Brady would still produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Belicheat could install a monkey as the OC and Brady would still produce. Bellicheat has one of the best QBs in history, and is likely also the best OC in football, along with best DC and HC. He proves time and time again he can keep winning no mater who is QB, and then they suck elsewhere, though Brisset looks non-horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, detectivekimble said: I'm don't know. These OCs who get to work with good QBs seem to get head coaching jobs. Bill O'Brien, Joe Philbin, Adam Gase, etc. O'Brien coaches Tom Brady and all of a sudden he's a QB whisperer. Hilarious. I suppose, perhaps I am using my own experience with the Jets and a guy like Schottenheimer. He was considered the devil incanrate while here and yet we hear people spouting off about the great accomplishments of rex ryan with a loaded defense and mark sanchez for getting us to two afc title games while the oc had to work with a rookie mistake riden sanchez. It seems guys that get fired half way through the year are often ocs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I suppose, perhaps I am using my own experience with the Jets and a guy like Schottenheimer. He was considered the devil incanrate while here and yet we hear people spouting off about the great accomplishments of rex ryan with a loaded defense and mark sanchez for getting us to two afc title games while the oc had to work with a rookie mistake riden sanchez. It seems guys that get fired half way through the year are often ocs schitty was a moron. if he was so friggin great he woulda gotten an hc gig somewhere. right now he's the qb coach for the dolts. he's going nowhere, fast. as for mccoy, it doesn't look like he had much to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, detectivekimble said: I'm don't know. These OCs who get to work with good QBs seem to get head coaching jobs. Bill O'Brien, Joe Philbin, Adam Gase, etc. O'Brien coaches Tom Brady and all of a sudden he's a QB whisperer. Hilarious. True..............unless your name is Darrell Bevell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, rangerous said: schitty was a moron. if he was so friggin great he woulda gotten an hc gig somewhere. right now he's the qb coach for the dolts. he's going nowhere, fast. as for mccoy, it doesn't look like he had much to work with. He had Phillip Rivers in SD, and they were horrible. The guy is not an NFL caliber coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Kleckineau said: True..............unless your name is Darrell Bevell. Calling a slant from the 1 yard line in the Super Bowl instead of giving the ball to Lynch tends to do that to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, section314 said: He had Phillip Rivers in SD, and they were horrible. The guy is not an NFL caliber coach. i was referring to denver. but consider too, lynch was one of those qb's that mac passed on. how's he looking? he can't beat out semian or osweiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, rangerous said: i was referring to denver. but consider too, lynch was one of those qb's that mac passed on. how's he looking? he can't beat out semian or osweiller. Agreed. Can you imagine if we had picked that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Couldn't happen to a nicer guy I never ever liked HORSE HEAD ELWAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 That’ll fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 JETS should offer the Colts their high 2nd for Jacoby Brissett . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yup, it's Mccoy's fault Elway thought the three headed monster of Semien/Osweiller/Lynch was good enough to lead the offense... That is even worse then McCown Petty and Hackenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 44 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: That is even worse then McCown Petty and Hackenberg It's far worse because the Broncos actually had a good team but no chance to win because of the QB situation. The Jets weren't winning with anyone short of Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 hours ago, SMC said: OC's are only as good as their starting QB (except if your Schitty, then you suck regardless). McCoy didn't have a chance in Denver with the QBs they chose. Agree. Siemian has zero arm strength, Lynch is even worse than Hackenberg and Osweiler is a headcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: It's far worse because the Broncos actually had a good team but no chance to win because of the QB situation. The Jets weren't winning with anyone short of Rodgers. This team could go 9-7 with brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Philc1 said: This team could go 9-7 with brady Bowles would have Brady on the bench here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Jetster said: Bowles would have Brady on the bench here. Not true Brady is above the age of 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 hours ago, section314 said: Calling a slant from the 1 yard line in the Super Bowl instead of giving the ball to Lynch tends to do that to people. He went from head coaching candidate to OC for life in 40 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Interesting that they change OC and QB in the same week ... I wonder if it was McCoy's resistance to letting Lynch see the field that got him fired? Can't have gone down well with Elway that his hand picked first round QB was firmly nailed to the bench even when the two guys ahead of him showed very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:43 PM, section314 said: Calling a slant from the 1 yard line in the Super Bowl instead of giving the ball to Lynch tends to do that to people. Especially since Arizona essentially lost the Super Bowl with the same play. Roll out Russel Wilson have the TE shadow him mid end zone and they score there 65% of the time and still had another down. Dumbest call in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 15 hours ago, jamesr said: Interesting that they change OC and QB in the same week ... I wonder if it was McCoy's resistance to letting Lynch see the field that got him fired? Can't have gone down well with Elway that his hand picked first round QB was firmly nailed to the bench even when the two guys ahead of him showed very little. You are probably right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 23 hours ago, jamesr said: Interesting that they change OC and QB in the same week ... I wonder if it was McCoy's resistance to letting Lynch see the field that got him fired? Can't have gone down well with Elway that his hand picked first round QB was firmly nailed to the bench even when the two guys ahead of him showed very little. Lynch was injured in preseason. Broncos release a few weeks ago was that they were waiting till Lynch was healthy enough to start and that they hoped Osweiler could manage a couple of games until then. Lynch legitimately got beat out by Semien last year, probably because he was a rookie coming from a gimmicky offense, but most likely would have been named the starter in September had he been healthy this year. Im not saying he’s going to be any better than what Denver has already put out there, but you can not compare him to Hackenberg. One of them is going to get the opportunity to start 6 games and the other will never take an NFL snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Pcola said: Lynch was injured in preseason. Broncos release a few weeks ago was that they were waiting till Lynch was healthy enough to start and that they hoped Osweiler could manage a couple of games until then. Lynch legitimately got beat out by Semien last year, probably because he was a rookie coming from a gimmicky offense, but most likely would have been named the starter in September had he been healthy this year. Im not saying he’s going to be any better than what Denver has already put out there, but you can not compare him to Hackenberg. One of them is going to get the opportunity to start 6 games and the other will never take an NFL snap. Unless he throws 5 INTs in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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