JetNation Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Coming out of their bye week, the 4-6 Jets welcomed the 7-3 Carolina Panthers and their second-ranked defense to MetLife Stadium. Running back Matt Forte returned to action after missing the previous game. The game also marked the first one back from injury for the Carolina tight end Greg Olsen. The Jets were led into action by quarterback Josh McCown, who entered the contest with the AFC’s second-highest completion percentage at 69%. Here is the good, the bad and the ugly… THE GOOD Chandler Catanzaro kicked field goals of 31 and 19 yards. NT Steve McClendon and LB Demario Davis were both credited with sacks of QB Cam Newton in the first quarter. Davis added another sack in the third quarter. The defense held the Panthers to only 4 first downs and 56 total yards in the first quarter. McCown threw a 50-50 ball into double coverage caught by WR Robby Anderson for a 33-yard touchdown just before the end of the first half. McCown and Anderson hooked up again in the third quarter for a 54-yard touchdown. Anderson led all Jets with 6 receptions for 146 yards and two touchdowns. McCown hit Jermaine Kearse with a touchdown from 3 yards out. The QB finished with passing stats of 19 of 36 for 307 yards and 3 touchdowns. The defense held Newton to only 11 pass completions for 168 yards. THE BAD The Jets only had 42 yards rushing in the first half. The defense gave up a 1-yard touchdown run by Newton in the second quarter and a 2-yard touchdown by RB Jonathan Stewart at the end of the third quarter. WR Kaelin Clay returned a punt 60 yards for a touchdown. The Jets only had 109 rushing yards for the game. THE UGLY The call of a 1-yard touchdown pass from McCown to TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins was reversed in the fourth quarter. McCown had a fumble which was recovered by LB Luke Kuechly and returned 34-yards for a touchdown. A late-game roughing the passer penalty on DE Mike Pennel sealed the game for the Panthers. The Jets were called for 7 penalties for 68 yards in the game. Jets inactives included: QB Christian Hackenberg, CB Robert Nelson, CB Derrick Jones, LB Freddie Bishop, LB Obum Gwacham, OT Ben Ijalana and OL Jonotthan Harrison Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfansince7 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Time for Bowles to go. Lets just say we get our #1 QB and pick up a few FAs. Do the penalties stop? Do all of a sudden have a threat on O? Do we have a left or right tackle that can protect the passer? I'm just not seeing the discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, jetsfansince7 said: Time for Bowles to go. Lets just say we get our #1 QB and pick up a few FAs. Do the penalties stop? Do all of a sudden have a threat on O? Do we have a left or right tackle that can protect the passer? I'm just not seeing the discipline. I would either give Bowles a one year extension or let him play his contract out (did't the Giants do that with Coughlin?). Hire Dorsey as a consultant to work with Macc so he does not screw up the draft picks and FA spending. Give Dorsey final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 The Jets led the Patriots on Oct. 15, 14-0. They lost, 24-17. They led the Dolphins on Oct. 22, 28-14. They lost, 31-28. They led the Falcons on Oct. 29, 17-16. They lost, 25-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Cam Newton literally looked like he was sleeping through that game. He was pure awful almost the whole game. It goes back to the old adage that good teams win games the have no business winning and bad teams find ways to lose when they have been playing their best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The Jets led the Patriots on Oct. 15, 14-0. They lost, 24-17. They led the Dolphins on Oct. 22, 28-14. They lost, 31-28. They led the Falcons on Oct. 29, 17-16. They lost, 25-20. 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Cam Newton literally looked like he was sleeping through that game. He was pure awful almost the whole game. It goes back to the old adage that good teams win games the have no business winning and bad teams find ways to lose when they have been playing their best. We have not developed a QB in a long time. Sanchez and Chad? Not sure either of them count as Chad was a glass doll. Management is an utter failure. This team looks exactly like a REX team. Its hard to watch and gives fans so little hope. We all know we need a QB yet we see teams getting and or developing a QB in the last 10 years.. but the bottom 1/3 of the league has stayed relatively unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I was hoping Pennell would be cut by now. He's 333 pounds of moron. Inexcusable play. Dump the bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 To keep blowing leads in the 4th, you have to wonder, is this team physically conditioned to play for 60 minutes? They seem like a pretty good team for 45, and crap for 15. If this team doesn't address the O Line in the draft or FA, it will never compete. Ever. When was the last time our special teams helped us in a game? They don't always have a net loss on the outcome, but when do they ever have a net positive on a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This picture says it all...................Until the NY Jets find a decent QB NOTHING CHANGES HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Kaelin Clay punt returner picked up by the Panthers off the Bills practice squad meanwhile Mike Maccagnan picks up Jojo Watson...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Again if the JEts had any expectations this year this would be really frustrating. Now it really is mildly annoying at most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Again if the JEts had any expectations this year this would be really frustrating. Now it really is mildly annoying at most The expectation is to win games, frustrating is that we are in most games with a very good chance to win them and a scrub player who if not on the Jets roster not in the NFL makes a bonehead mistake costing us the game or our head coach does something stupid again costing us the winnable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: The expectation is to win games, frustrating is that we are in most games with a very good chance to win them and a scrub player who if not on the Jets roster not in the NFL makes a bonehead mistake costing us the game or our head coach does something stupid again costing us the winnable game. Not when you are labeled as the worst team in the NFL. Not when the fans want to tank to look for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not when you are labeled as the worst team in the NFL. Not when the fans want to tank to look for a QB Who cares? You play to win the game. Not all fans wanted to tank this season, speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: This picture says it all...................Until the NY Jets find a decent QB NOTHING CHANGES HERE. ok... was his arm moving forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, varjet said: ok... was his arm moving forward? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 SPORTS Another crusher exposes the problem Todd Bowles can’t solve By Brian Costello November 27, 2017 | 12:13pm Modal Trigger The Jets suffered a crushing 35-27 loss to the Panthers on Sunday, their fifth loss in six games, which leaves them at 4-7. Here are some thoughts and observations from the game: 1. The loss to the Panthers continued a trend for Todd Bowles’ Jets — they can’t beat good teams. Look at the three years Bowles has been here. He has won 19 games. Of those, two teams finished with winning records, and two teams they beat this year currently have winning records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: SPORTS Another crusher exposes the problem Todd Bowles can’t solve By Brian Costello November 27, 2017 | 12:13pm Modal Trigger The Jets suffered a crushing 35-27 loss to the Panthers on Sunday, their fifth loss in six games, which leaves them at 4-7. Here are some thoughts and observations from the game: 1. The loss to the Panthers continued a trend for Todd Bowles’ Jets — they can’t beat good teams. Look at the three years Bowles has been here. He has won 19 games. Of those, two teams finished with winning records, and two teams they beat this year currently have winning records. Read this article too. Here's the whole thing. Think of it what you will but it hits home for me: The Jets suffered a crushing 35-27 loss to the Panthers on Sunday, their fifth loss in six games, which leaves them at 4-7. Here are some thoughts and observations from the game: 1. The loss to the Panthers continued a trend for Todd Bowles’ Jets — they can’t beat good teams. Look at the three years Bowles has been here. He has won 19 games. Of those, two teams finished with winning records, and two teams they beat this year currently have winning records. Go through the Jets’ wins under Bowles and try to identify the signature win. The Patriots in Week 16 in 2015 is the closest thing he has to one, and New England was beaten up that day, with Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola, Devin McCourty and Patrick Chung all sidelined with injuries. –– ADVERTISEMENT –– Still, let’s give Bowles that one. It was a nice win. We all remember what came after it, though. Other than that Patriots game, though, where are you going for big wins? They beat a Redskins team in 2015 that finished 9-7. The win over the Colts early in that season felt big at the time, but then Indianapolis went 8-8. Last year? Forget it. The 8-8 Ravens were the best team they beat. see also The Jets just repeatedly showed why they're a pretender This season, the win over the Jaguars, who are currently 7-4, looks like their best win. We’ll see how that looks in six weeks. Jacksonville has an outstanding defense, but Blake Bortles at quarterback does not exactly make that win glisten. The other team they beat currently with a winning record is the 6-5 Bills, another team no one is going to confuse with one of the league’s best. If you add up the records of the 19 teams Bowles has beaten, it is 104-180, a whopping winning percentage of .367. The Panthers are a good team. Sunday’s game would have been a nice win, would have given you reason to believe the Jets might actually make a December run. Instead, they folded in the fourth quarter … again. 2. Penalties have been the story of this Jets season, and that continued Sunday. They committed seven more penalties, bringing the season total to 88 accepted penalties, third most in the NFL. It was not the number of penalties, however, that was so galling. It was the types of penalties they committed and when they committed them. Start with Jordan Jenkins jumping offside on fourth-and-2 in the third quarter to hand the Panthers a first down. Jonathan Stewart scored the go-ahead touchdown a few plays later. Modal TriggerCam Newton is helped up after being roughed by the Jets.Paul Bereswill Next, go to Mike Pennel roughing the passer with 2:17 left in the game and the Jets desperately needing the ball back. It was third-and-11 from the Jets’ 48, and Cam Newton threw an incompletion. But Pennel decided to give Newton a shove, and the Panthers were able to run the clock down to 20 seconds and kick a field goal. That’s the type of penalty that gets guys cut. Those were the two big ones, but there were others. How about the Jets getting called for 12 men on the field after an injury timeout with the Panthers inside the 10? Or Chad Hansen getting flagged for a push in the back? Or Demario Davis roughing the passer on a first-half Panthers touchdown drive? The Jets have spent the entire season talking about cleaning up penalties. They have completely failed at doing it. 3. I think first-year offensive coordinator John Morton has done a pretty good job. (You can feel the BUT coming, can’t you?) He was not given much talent to work with and has figured out a way to have a respectable offense. BUT … How do you call three passing plays from the 1-yard line? I understand the Panthers have a tough defense, and they are good at stopping the run. I am not insisting you just blast the ball up the middle, but how about a little fake to the fullback and a flip to the halfback outside on one play? Maybe try letting Josh McCown run a bootleg into the end zone? Something. Running three passes was dumb. I get that Austin Seferian-Jenkins should have scored a touchdown. That does not change the fact that passing on three straight plays from the 1 is not smart football. see also Todd Bowles calls out 'selfish' Jets receiver after his best game And Bowles can say it is hindsight. Every Jets fan I know was screaming at their TV or in their seat as it was happening. 4. You saw the best and worst of Robby Anderson on display Sunday. Anderson is a very gifted wide receiver with blazing speed. He was a nice find by general manager Mike Maccagnan and his scouting staff as an undrafted player from Temple. The other side of Anderson is a young, immature player who can be selfish. You saw it in Miami when he spiked his helmet on the field in the fourth quarter. It showed up again Sunday with his pleading for Pro Bowl votes to the camera in a tight game. It is not a felony offense for Anderson, but another example that he has some growing up to do. Telling stat: The Panthers did not target rookie safety Marcus Maye once, according to Pro Football Focus. Maye is the least-targeted safety in the NFL on a per-snap basis, according to PFF. Maye looks like a long-term starter for the Jets. Surprising snap count: Running back Bilal Powell only played 23 snaps out of 70. I get that the Jets are trying to find a delicate balance with the three running backs, but that is way too low for Powell, especially with Matt Forte coming back from an injury. Game ball: Despite his sideline stupidity, this has to go to Anderson, who had a huge day. He had six catches for 146 yards and two touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks for some reason the entire article wouldn't paste for me.... This is amazing how can anyone defend Todd Bowles. . The loss to the Panthers continued a trend for Todd Bowles’ Jets — they can’t beat good teams. Look at the three years Bowles has been here. He has won 19 games. Of those, two teams finished with winning records, and two teams they beat this year currently have winning records. Go through the Jets’ wins under Bowles and try to identify the signature win. The Patriots in Week 16 in 2015 is the closest thing he has to one, and New England was beaten up that day, with Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola, Devin McCourty and Patrick Chung all sidelined with injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Blasts Anderson for the pro bowl bit but ignores and jokes about his fat, disinterested underacieving d lineman missing or being late for meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Blasts Anderson for the pro bowl bit but ignores and jokes about his fat, disinterested underacieving d lineman missing or being late for meetings. bowles does NOT want offensive players making the pro bowl. duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: SPORTS Another crusher exposes the problem Todd Bowles can’t solve By Brian Costello November 27, 2017 | 12:13pm Modal Trigger The Jets suffered a crushing 35-27 loss to the Panthers on Sunday, their fifth loss in six games, which leaves them at 4-7. Here are some thoughts and observations from the game: 1. The loss to the Panthers continued a trend for Todd Bowles’ Jets — they can’t beat good teams. Look at the three years Bowles has been here. He has won 19 games. Of those, two teams finished with winning records, and two teams they beat this year currently have winning records. Anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick or McCown are going to win close games for you on a regular basis is delusional!! Those guys are journeyman QBs for a reason; period. And the article just highlights this reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick or McCown are going to win close games for you on a regular basis is delusional!! Those guys are journeyman QBs for a reason; period. And the article just highlights this reality. There is a reason they are journeymen, too bad Mike Maccagnan doesn't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 29 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: There is a reason they are journeymen, too bad Mike Maccagnan doesn't understand that. On the contrary, I think he understands that plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: On the contrary, I think he understands that plenty I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick or McCown are going to win close games for you on a regular basis is delusional!! Those guys are journeyman QBs for a reason; period. And the article just highlights this reality. It would seem that our General Manager, Mike Maccagnan, should probably get us a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick or McCown are going to win close games for you on a regular basis is delusional!! Those guys are journeyman QBs for a reason; period. And the article just highlights this reality. This is what you get from these guys they will not be able to carry a team to victories. Besides the fact we continue to make too many dumb plays or inopportune penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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