All those draft picks browns 0-11

[kevinc855]

“They have a plan” “years ahead of the jets” “good coach” yes everyone draft picks solve all your problems ?

[T0mShane]

[ASH1962]

1-25 starting last year. Mind boggling...

[Paradis]

3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

“They have a plan” “years ahead of the jets” “good coach” yes everyone draft picks solve all your problems ?

the browns are fcking idiots though -- you can't deduce anything of logic or consequence from their pattern of behavior. They traded out of Wentz (whilst desperately needing a QB) as well as Julio, Sammy and every other a$$hole that knows how to play football

[Ken Schroy]

10 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

“They have a plan” “years ahead of the jets” “good coach” yes everyone draft picks solve all your problems ?

You are making a fool of yourself. But don't let me stop you, have at it.

[kevinc855]

2 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said:

You are making a fool of yourself. But don't let me stop you, have at it.

So were u morons when we had the thread and you all argued how the browns were better and had it all figured out 

[Ken Schroy]

1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

So were u morons when we had the thread and you all argued how the browns were better and had it all figured out 

What does this sentence mean?

[Jetsplayer21]

16 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

“They have a plan” “years ahead of the jets” “good coach” yes everyone draft picks solve all your problems ?

Ya, using the worst franchise in all of sports to back up a point is really smart??. 

[BurnleyJet]

All they need is a QB, just like we need one. They are drafting one next year. In fact I will predict it's one of two:

A) Rosen

B ) Darnold

[CrazyCarl40]

4 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said:

All they need is a QB, just like we need one. They are drafting one next year. In fact I will predict it's one of two:

A) Rosen

B ) Darnold

Nah. They have a QB. They don’t have competent receivers. If Gordon comes back and is Gordon, you’re going to see what I mean. 

 

[Ken Schroy]

4 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Nah. They have a QB. They don’t have competent receivers. If Gordon comes back and is Gordon, you’re going to see what I mean. 

 

I hope you are right so they don't draft 1.

[Mogglez]

So thankful.

[dbatesman]

draft picks, are bad

[Ken Schroy]

3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

draft picks, are bad

Yes, because Cleveland says so.

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

draft picks, are bad

You mock the op, but I can give you plenty of examples of teams that used draft picks and didn’t win Super Bowls immediately afterward.

[dbatesman]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You mock the op, but I can give you plenty of examples of teams that used draft picks and didn’t win Super Bowls immediately afterward.

Has any Super Bowl team been built through the draft? I'll hang up and listen for my answer

[Joe W. Namath]

Rams have had a ton of high picks.  They look good.

[Larz]

Nerd analytics for the loss

[The Walrus]

I wonder if a Elway '83 situation could develop with any of these QBs and the Browns. God knows if ever a team deserves to be stood up it's the Browns. They inspire no confidence in going there.

[Jetsplayer21]

19 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

So thankful.

Is that the only bad play McCown had all game? Not going to give any blame to our weak Oline for not protecting him? Lol. McCown is surprisely a top 15 qb right now, this yr. surprisingly. It’s remarkable considering the Oline and average weapons he has to help. He is playing much better than fitz ever did. And of course miles ahead of what we ever had with Mark Sanchez. If we didn’t have a ton of knuckle heads starting, we would be right in the middle of the playoff hunt. 

[CrazyCarl40]

19 minutes ago, The Walrus said:

I wonder if a Elway '83 situation could develop with any of these QBs and the Browns. God knows if ever a team deserves to be stood up it's the Browns.

If the Browns were smart they’d get a King’s ransom for the number one pick and build an offensive line and get some offensive weapons. 

[Mogglez]

13 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Is that the only bad play McCown had all game? Not going to give any blame to our weak Oline for not protecting him? Lol. McCown is surprisely a top 15 qb right now, this yr. surprisingly. It’s remarkable considering the Oline and average weapons he has to help. He is playing much better than fitz ever did. And of course miles ahead of what we ever had with Mark Sanchez. If we didn’t have a ton of knuckle heads starting, we would be right in the middle of the playoff hunt. 

Did we not scream at Sanchez and Geno to just take the sack and live another down for years?  All of sudden trying to do too much and making a game crippling mistake is ok?  The young kids do it and they're total busts, the 38 year old never-was does it and there's excuses galore.  Can't make this sh*t up.

For the record, no it's not the only bad play be had all game.  It just happened to be the largest one, since it obliterated any sort of momentum we had and gave Carolina a lead that they never lost.

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

H..h..he's holding the phone with his little paws.

[Jetsplayer21]

14 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Did we not scream at Sanchez and Geno to just take the sack and live another down for years?  All of sudden trying to do too much and making a game crippling mistake is ok?  The young kids do it and they're total busts, the 38 year old never-was does it and there's excuses galore.  Can't make this sh*t up.

For the record, no it's not the only bad play be had all game.  It just happened to be the largest one, since it obliterated any sort of momentum we had and gave Carolina a lead that they never lost.

Lol “ wasn’t his only mistake. ” Yes there is not a qb in history he has played a game mistake free. The guy has a rating of 94? While genes and Sanchez lived in the 60s/70s. He has completed 69%. Again way ahead of Sanchez. Sure it was a big play, but again the line broke down, the play call was poor in that situation. The defense played bad, had a ton of breakdowns and bonehead penalties.  Our TE couldn’t catch a cold. And of course or special teams had to give up a game breaking play. You are picking on the guy who played the best on our all around bad team. My point is without McCown, we would have been out of this game early, and picking top 3 next yr. Maybe we should have done that. 

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, Jetsplayer21 said:

Lol “ wasn’t his only mistake. ” Yes there is not a qb in history he has played a game mistake free. The guy has a rating of 94? While genes and Sanchez lived in the 60s/70s. He has completed 69%. Again way ahead of Sanchez. Sure it was a big play, but again the line broke down, the play call was poor in that situation. The defense played bad, had a ton of breakdowns and bonehead penalties.  Our TE couldn’t catch a cold. And of course or special teams had to give up a game breaking play. You are picking on the guy who played the best on our all around bad team. My point is without McCown, we would have been out of this game early, and picking top 3 next yr. Maybe we should have done that. 

I disagree. McCown to me has had a pedestrian season

[JetFaninMI]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

“They have a plan” “years ahead of the jets” “good coach” yes everyone draft picks solve all your problems ?

This is a topic you have started before with the same exact sentences and bullsh*t. Just reminding us? Well here is a little reminder for you:

[Jetsplayer21]

8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

I disagree. McCown to me has had a pedestrian season

The ranking system and stats don’t see to agree with you. I know you can’t stat everything. I just sense the fans don’t see that jets having been putting games on his back. That’s how desperate this team, putting the entire O on the back of a 38 yr old journeyman lol. I am willing to bet it will be many years until we see a qb put up numbers in this range. I hope I’m wrong, but we have to re-build this line in order for us to think A qb can play like tom Brady lol

[RoadFan]

I am clearly one of the targets of kevin867-5309 starting this thread, again...

I could provide a logical explanation, however, this doesn't deserve logic.

Instead, I contend that the problem is that the Browns just don't "Brown up."

[Mogglez]

19 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Lol “ wasn’t his only mistake. ” Yes there is not a qb in history he has played a game mistake free. The guy has a rating of 94? While genes and Sanchez lived in the 60s/70s. He has completed 69%. Again way ahead of Sanchez. Sure it was a big play, but again the line broke down, the play call was poor in that situation. The defense played bad, had a ton of breakdowns and bonehead penalties.  Our TE couldn’t catch a cold. And of course or special teams had to give up a game breaking play. You are picking on the guy who played the best on our all around bad team. My point is without McCown, we would have been out of this game early, and picking top 3 next yr. Maybe we should have done that. 

1. All the pretty stats in the world mean absolute jack sh*t when your "one little mistake" costs the team the game.

2. Despite playing a better game than Geno and Mark, he still makes the game destroying mistakes.

3. Blaming McCown for not protecting the ball doesn't excuse the line or anyone else for playing poorly.  It's merely pointing out that he is not blameless because our offense has managed to bloat his numbers.  On the play shown above, the line didn't do there job.  McCown made it much much much worse by making that absolutely moronic decision.  Simple enough?

4. Our TE did actually make a catch, the NFL's stupid rules don't change my opinion on that.

5. We should have focused on playing youth at every single position, QB included.  Even if it meant losing our way to a top 3 pick.  That would have been better than watching Grandpa McCown sh*t his Depends en route to 4-5 wins and a ton of painful losses.

[rangerous]

30 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Did we not scream at Sanchez and Geno to just take the sack and live another down for years?  All of sudden trying to do too much and making a game crippling mistake is ok?  The young kids do it and they're total busts, the 38 year old never-was does it and there's excuses galore.  Can't make this sh*t up.

For the record, no it's not the only bad play be had all game.  It just happened to be the largest one, since it obliterated any sort of momentum we had and gave Carolina a lead that they never lost.

yep.  mccown's high qbr just shows how flawed that particular rating is.  mccown has certainly made some nice plays and that muffed asj pass in the first half was a beautiful thing but it is clear he has some serious limitations

[rangerous]

6 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

1. All the pretty stats in the world mean absolute jack sh*t when your "one little mistake" costs the team the game.

2. Despite playing a better game than Geno and Mark, he still makes the game destroying mistakes.

3. Blaming McCown for not protecting the ball doesn't excuse the line or anyone else for playing poorly.  It's merely pointing out that he is not blameless because our offense has managed to bloat his numbers.  On the play shown above, the line didn't do there job.  McCown made it much much much worse by making that absolutely moronic decision.  Simple enough?

4. Our TE did actually make a catch, the NFL's stupid rules don't change my opinion on that.

5. We should have focused on playing youth at every single position, QB included, even if it meant losing our way to a top 3 pick.  That would have been better than watching Grandpa McCown sh*t his Depends en route to 4-5 wins and a ton of painful losses.

the tease was nice while it lasted.  it's time to put mccown on the bench and see what the young guys can do.

[Jetsplayer21]

6 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

1. All the pretty stats in the world mean absolute jack sh*t when your "one little mistake" costs the team the game.

2. Despite playing a better game than Geno and Mark, he still makes the game destroying mistakes.

3. Blaming McCown for not protecting the ball doesn't excuse the line or anyone else for playing poorly.  It's merely pointing out that he is not blameless because our offense has managed to bloat his numbers.  On the play shown above, the line didn't do there job.  McCown made it much much much worse by making that absolutely moronic decision.  Simple enough?

4. Our TE did actually make a catch, the NFL's stupid rules don't change my opinion on that.

5. We should have focused on playing youth at every single position, QB included, even if it meant losing our way to a top 3 pick.  That would have been better than watching Grandpa McCown sh*t his Depends en route to 4-5 wins and a ton of painful losses.

I agree that 2nd half 1 was a td. It was a nice thrown/caught fade in tight coverage. Could have been cleaner catch. But he did drop a WIDE open td throw in the 1st Q. That was huge. The D breakdown in coverage, and then allow McCaffrey to steam roll his way to the 1 after the catch. To me was biggest F up of game. This was play after bonehead off sides where we would have been off the field without giving them 6.

[joewilly12]

Who gives a rats ass about the Cleveland Browns. 

Its not only drafting with them they traded us arguably 1 of the top LB's in the NFL this  season for a slouch Safety 

COME ON MAN 

[Jetsplayer21]

2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Who gives a rats ass about the Cleveland Browns. 

Its not only drafting with them they traded us arguably 1 of the top LB's in the NFL this  season for a slouch Safety 

COME ON MAN 

The browns even tried to make a winning movie about them picking the number 1 pick in the draft, and they couldn’t even do that right ?

[jgb]

8 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said:

I disagree. McCown to me has had a pedestrian season

Lack o'dee weaponz?