Paradis Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Admittedly i've been in and out of games all season -- but i've seen enough to know he's the least of our worries. No one's going to mistake him for Tom Brady, but we haven't had consistent stable play at QB like this since Pennington. How can we not entertain him as the mentor/interim guy with the rookie we draft next year? (assuming you subscribe to that inevitability) What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Nobody hates McCown. But hes 38 years old and is starting for a rebuilding team. Hes not the future, and hes stealing reps from guys that should be getting the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Paradis said: Admittedly i've been in and out of games all season -- but i've seen enough to know he's the least of our worries. No one's going to mistake him for Tom Brady, but we haven't had consistent stable play at QB like this since Pennington. How can we not entertain him as the mentor/interim guy with the rookie we draft next year? (assuming you subscribe to that inevitability) What am I missing? Cause the rookie has to start. In this on demand world. We want the rookie and we want him now. There is no need to actually learn. Go out and wing it and jets and stuff all kidding aside. If they draft a qb high this year I’m all for McCown being back, if they dont then he should be thanked and shown the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I dont believe the consensus is people dont like McCown and what he is doing for this team at the QB position. He has had a solid season. I believe the consensus is that he isnt the future at 38 yrs old, and this year is a rebuilding year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 lol so we hate him because he's old, and because ppl want to see the rookie (we don't have one). I agree, we should see what the other two look down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The notion that young QB's need a veteran mentor is BS. You can either play in this league, or you can't. No amount of mentorship will change that. It's time to find out if our youngsters can play or not. We're 4-7, so he's not exactly helping us in the present. He's 38, so he's not part of our future. There is no upside to having him as our starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Because he killed Apollo Creed in the ring, the ****ing commie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Because a mentor/interim guy isn't a thing. It's a narrative. A myth. A fable. Folklore, if you will. You can either play or you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Because a mentor/interim guy isn't a thing. It's a narrative. A myth. A fable. Folklore, if you will. You can either play or you can't. Remember when there was no way Josh McCown was starting 1 game this year because he was clearly just brought in to be a mentor? Yeah, me neither. It was a narrative, a myth, a fable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Remember when there was no way Josh McCown was starting 1 game this year because he was clearly just brought in to be a mentor? Yeah, me neither. It was a narrative, a myth, a fable... ...cock and bull, an old wives' tale, or as the Spanish say, el leyenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 This is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The future is now. This ain't triple A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Hate Mccown because he is going to give the Jets 6 wins they never would have gotten. Jets would have a franchise QB Rosen or Darnold waiting in the wings if not for Mccown. He has been a devastating curse. Bowles fired and a franchise QB if no Mccown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Hate Mccown because he is going to give the Jets 6 wins they never would have gotten. Jets would have a franchise QB Rosen or Darnold waiting in the wings if not for Mccown. He has been a devastating curse. Bowles fired and a franchise QB if no Mccown agreed, but why is that mccown's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 What's the reason for this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 58 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Nobody hates McCown. But hes 38 years old and is starting for a rebuilding team. Hes not the future, and hes stealing reps from guys that should be getting the time. That's my big issue with the whole debate. It's a really big leap to say Petty or Hackenburg should be getting reps, as it's already pretty clear they aren't solutions. If you already know what you have in those 2, what's the difference? At least by playing McCown, you can honestly evaluate every other area on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Because he is not a LONG TERM solution. This franchise has been searching for a LONG TERM solution for 40+ years. We need a LONG TERM solution. ASAP. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 ugh, wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: That's my big issue with the whole debate. It's a really big leap to say Petty or Hackenburg should be getting reps, as it's already pretty clear they aren't solutions. If you already know what you have in those 2, what's the difference? At least by playing McCown, you can honestly evaluate every other area on offense. good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Because most Jets' fans are emotionally stunted and can't grasp that most things are a spectrum and not yes or no, black or white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Admittedly i've been in and out of games all season -- but i've seen enough to know he's the least of our worries. No one's going to mistake him for Tom Brady, but we haven't had consistent stable play at QB like this since Pennington. How can we not entertain him as the mentor/interim guy with the rookie we draft next year? (assuming you subscribe to that inevitability) What am I missing? Mccown signed with a promise from the organization that they would not use a #1 draft pick on a qb. So if he stays, no future. The jets cant reneg or all trust will be broken and the locker room will become chaotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Mccown signed with a promise from the organization that they would not use a #1 draft pick on a qb. So if he stays, no future. The jets cant reneg or all trust will be broken and the locker room will become chaotic You forgot to masturbate this morning, didn't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Paradis said: You forgot to masturbate this morning, didn't you No i did to tubegalore. Mommy porn. Plus, i literally am lying naked post orgasm with my girl typing this. so im good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Paradis said: What am I missing? He’s 38 and has no future. He’s never remotely been this healthy, this long and this productively. This is his “Fitz 2015”. He’s been a huge part of our 4th Quarter failures. With all that I don’t think anyone hates him, on the contrary he gets appreciated to some degree for what he has done this year. Most of us simply see this for what it is, a lucky old guys last minor moment of pro glory in a meaningless year. What we do in 2018 and beyond is what matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: That's my big issue with the whole debate. It's a really big leap to say Petty or Hackenburg should be getting reps, as it's already pretty clear they aren't solutions. If you already know what you have in those 2, what's the difference? At least by playing McCown, you can honestly evaluate every other area on offense. Then if Petty amd Hackenberg arent solutions and arent even worthy of getting first team reps, then why the **** are they even on the roster? LOL. The 49ers started CJ Beatherd for a good portion of the season. Case Keenum has shockingly had a great season. Nathan Peterman and DeShonn Kizer have started. But "we already know what we have with Petty and Hack"? LOL. Then they should have released at least one of them and concentrated on developing the remaining player (which would be Petty, because Hack is a lost cause and EVERYONE knows it). But lets be honest. EVERYBODY but Todd Bowles and Josh McCown know the Jets were going NOWHERE this year. They needed to see if Petty was worth a long term #2 spot and be in position to draft a blue chipper. Josh McCown is a nice guy and a competent short term starter, but a total waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 “You must love living in a van down by the river. Such freedom!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Admittedly i've been in and out of games all season -- but i've seen enough to know he's the least of our worries. No one's going to mistake him for Tom Brady, but we haven't had consistent stable play at QB like this since Pennington. How can we not entertain him as the mentor/interim guy with the rookie we draft next year? (assuming you subscribe to that inevitability) What am I missing? Because this site is full of glass half full malcontents, who can't admit that they were wrong about the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: Because this site is full of glass half full malcontents, who can't admit that they were wrong about the guy. Are you starting McCown in 2018? What about 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, Warfish said: Are you starting McCown in 2018? What about 2019? 18' - If the rookie pick isn't ready yes. who knows about 19 and who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Depends who we have on the roster. If we have Cousins, no. If we have a rookie, maybe for a few games and then he can revert to a backup role. Not jumping ahead 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I don't hate him and I don't think bringing him back next year as a backup/mentor is a bad idea. However, I wouldn't call his play this year consistent. This has been his best season of his career and today was probably his best game of the season. He's had a lot of problems with consistency and is a huge reason why we've struggled to close games. Today he was helped a lot by being able to establish an effective run game through the game and the coaching staff setting up a game plan to let the offense play slow and not put too much pressure on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 30 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: Because this site is full of glass half full malcontents, who can't admit that they were wrong about the guy. If Josh McCown led the Jets to the playoffs, I would be the happiest wrong man throughout the entire town of Wrongville. Being wrong about Josh McCown leading the team to 5-6 wins instead of 1-2 wins is the complete opposite of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Only one reason to hate him, he's 38 and keeping the younger QB's from getting reps and starting time- and thus prevents them from working through problems in live action. That's about it, the man himself is pretty un-hateable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: If Josh McCown led the Jets to the playoffs, I would be the happiest wrong man in throughout the entire town of Wrongville. Stay tuned in 18'. #Jetup #theFutureisBRight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: If Josh McCown led the Jets to the playoffs, I would be the happiest wrong man in throughout the entire town of Wrongville. Being wrong about Josh McCown leading the team to 5-6 wins instead of 1-2 wins is the complete opposite of that. I'll never confuse McCown for the long term answer, but I gotta give the guy credit and think he has value for us next year whatever we do. Hopefully as a backup to an up and coming rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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