Kleckineau Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 40 minutes ago, UnTypicalJET said: Giants have a QB that’s one two super bowls against Brady. A little different circumstances my brother! Lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Is it one or too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Josh Rosen gonna look good in giant blue If that happens, we'll probably lose a few fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Kleckineau said: I left nothing out. Anyone who doesnt know the multiple "rumblings" as you call it regarding the Giants and that their record is 2-10 has been watching more synchronized swimming and curling than NFL games this fall. PS Jets fans can "rumble" with the best of them. Why is Bowels still here? Bowles is here because our ownership has no pride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: That's kind of the same thing though. Outward appearance leads to fans opinions and reaction. And it did. The difference is Mara doesn’t need a 28 year old dipsh*t tabloid hack to tell him what he, or the fans, should think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: McAdoo just sucks and got exposed this year just like Bowles last year. I was never impressed by that guy at all The difference is that McAdoo completely blew up in the public eye just like Idzik did, while Bowles kept his mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: The difference is Mara doesn’t need a 28 year old dipsh*t tabloid hack to tell him what he, or the fans, should think. Francesa isn't 28 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: The difference is Mara doesn’t need a 28 year old dipsh*t tabloid hack to tell him what he, or the fans, should think. No, Mara just needs a 68 year old radio talk show host who's retiring in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Nope. They fired McAdoo in-season because he ****ed up the Eli thing and Mara wasn’t having it. McAdoo then doubled down by trying to say Mara was on board with the ****ery. The opinion of the base mattered less than the outward appearance of disrespecting an All-time Giants great, similar to Handley jerking around Phil Simms. The Mara/Tisch ownership almost certainly want to draft a QB. But the Manning mess was a bit much in that equation. When they pick said young QB. either Manning does the "mentoring' nonsense( which is really not going to happen)or he plays ball to go to Denver or New Orleans(assuming his brother's pal Elway wants to try to make onme more run with the Von Miller nucleus or the Saints dump Brees; both possibilities). "The fans" might be a pain in the ass by not showing up; but that's really secondary.If the decision eventually is dealing or cutting Manning, the Giants don't need to piss him off needlessly. Macadoo and Reese did that with the Geno Smith move. And really they weren't winning at Oakland whoever started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: The Mara/Tisch ownership almost certainly want to draft a QB. But the Manning mess was a bit much in that equation. When they pick said young QB. either Manning does the "mentoring' nonsense( which is really not going to happen)or he plays ball to go to Denver or New Orleans(assuming his brother's pal Elway wants to try to make onme more run with the Von Miller nucleus or the Saints dump Brees; both possibilities). "The fans" might be a pain in the ass by not showing up; but that's really secondary.If the decision eventually is dealing or cutting Manning, the Giants don't need to piss him off needlessly. Macadoo and Reese did that with the Geno Smith move. And really they weren't winning at Oakland whoever started. Eli can b-tch and demand a trade to Jax but he’s under contract for $23 million he has 0.0 leverage. If the giants want him to start while Rosen holds a clipboard there is nothing he can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Eli can b-tch and demand a trade to Jax but he’s under contract for $23 million he has 0.0 leverage. If the giants want him to start while Rosen holds a clipboard there is nothing he can do The entrance of a new GM and HC change those odds. They will probably want a clean slate. Then again, Mara might again cowtow to the fans and force Eli upon them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Eli can b-tch and demand a trade to Jax but he’s under contract for $23 million he has 0.0 leverage. If the giants want him to start while Rosen holds a clipboard there is nothing he can do Eli is an asset. This Geno Smith thing made that asset less valuable. He may have no leverage but the Giants no doubt would love if the Broncos, Jags or Saints offered a serious raft pick for him this offseason. Jints need Manning to go along. Same way how a certain team in green DOES NOT play young QBs, thereby lessening their value. Petty and Hackenberg are basically worthless assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 The Giants are a total disaster right now. It is going to be interesting to see what they do during the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The entrance of a new GM and HC change those odds. They will probably want a clean slate. Then again, Mara might again cowtow to the fans and force Eli upon them Having a veteran who you can realistically compete for a super bowl with while a Darnold or Rosen can sit and learn on a scale contract is the ideal scenario Any new GM who throws that away is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnTypicalJET Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Is it one or too?It’s Won! Lol, why don’t you use your brain for looking and acknowledging the growth of the organization vs being cynical and ignoring the obvious. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bugg said: Eli is an asset. This Geno Smith thing made that asset less valuable. He may have no leverage but the Giants no doubt would love if the Broncos, Jags or Saints offered a serious raft pick for him this offseason. Jints need Manning to go along. Same way how a certain team in green DOES NOT play young QBs, thereby lessening their value. Petty and Hackenberg are basically worthless assets. Starting Geno caused the giants to miss out on a first round pick for Eli? Are u nuts? Nobody was offering anything north of a kid round pick for a 36 year old qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Having a veteran who you can realistically compete for a super bowl with while a Darnold or Rosen can sit and learn on a scale contract is the ideal scenario Any new GM who throws that away is an idiot Well 1. the difference between the changeover from Warner to Eli and the possible changeover from Eli to (blank) is the emotional output from the fans which took Mara completely by surprise, hence why he went out and apologized a few days after. Warner didnt have that. Eli does. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. 2. the Giants GM hasn't been identified so he might very well be an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Forget Eli. How about JPP and Olivier Vernon counting for 34 million on the cap next year, with a combined 10 sacks on the season. Add in Snacks for almost another 10, they have a 44 million dollar D Line that gets 12 -15 sacks combined a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: I left nothing out. Anyone who doesnt know the multiple "rumblings" as you call it regarding the Giants and that their record is 2-10 has been watching more synchronized swimming and curling than NFL games this fall. PS Jets fans can "rumble" with the best of them. Why is Bowels still here? I'm not the only one that calls it rumblings.. in fact it's used a lot by people not named kleckineau. Mac and Bowles rid the roster of the malcontents and just spanked a couple that were getting out of line. I know many of you are envious of the 2-10 Giants today but I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 McAdoo & Reese Fired ...the day Herm Edwards hired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Starting Geno caused the giants to miss out on a first round pick for Eli? Are u nuts? Nobody was offering anything north of a kid round pick for a 36 year old qb No way they get a #1. But a 3 or a 4 or useful player, may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pac said: I'm not the only one that calls it rumblings.. in fact it's used a lot by people not named kleckineau. Mac and Bowles rid the roster of the malcontents and just spanked a couple that were getting out of line. I know many of you are envious of the 2-10 Giants today but I'm not. What seems to be happening is that Jets fans are assuming that the Giants will do everything right and set themselves up wonderfully. They are assuming it as done. it can happen that way, but it's not a fait accompli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: No way they get a #1. But a 3 or a 4 or useful player, may be. Maybe a 4th and benching Eli while still healthy only preserves his trade value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: What seems to be happening is that Jets fans are assuming that the Giants will do everything right and set themselves up wonderfully. They are assuming it as done. it can happen that way, but it's not a fait accompli. You act like we are 12-1 and headed to the super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: I'm not the only one that calls it rumblings.. the rest of the country does too. Mac and Bowles rid the roster of the malcontents and just spanked a couple that were getting out of line. I know many of you are enviable of the 2-10 Giants today but I'm not. The Giants have been in 5 Super Bowls. When their coach fails he is shown the door. Thats what they do and it works. The Jets? They get to keep Super Bowels. Yes I am envious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: You act like we are 12-1 and headed to the super bowl Whatever the Giants do has no bearing or related to anything the Jets do. The fact that you think that basically tells it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 In other words, the Jets being a badly run organization doesn;t guarantee that the Giants are squeaky clean and will do everything right. They are a separate entity Why Jets fans think this is anybody's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well 1. the difference between the changeover from Warner to Eli and the possible changeover from Eli to (blank) is the emotional output from the fans which took Mara completely by surprise, hence why he went out and apologized a few days after. Warner didnt have that. Eli does. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. 2. the Giants GM hasn't been identified so he might very well be an idiot. Took Mara by surprise? Is he an idiot? The guy had an iron man streak, they weren't surprised. If anything, the one that was surprised was McAdoo who that they Eli would be fine with starting and then being pulled mid-game to "evaluate" Geno and Webb. I don't think there is a big deal with not having a GM right now. They are going to keep their scouts and probably have some candidates in mind, in-house and out. They already named Kevin Abrams interim GM. He has been assistant GM for like 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 BTW, Eli is starting again on Sunday. So the Giants after trying to get a look at the young QBs shelve the plan after one week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Took Mara by surprise? Is he an idiot? The guy had an iron man streak, they weren't surprised. If anything, the one that was surprised was McAdoo who that they Eli would be fine with starting and then being pulled mid-game to "evaluate" Geno and Webb. . So why is Eli starting against Dallas this week. Jordan RaananVerified account @JordanRaanan 1h1 hour ago More The Giants are expected to go back to Eli Manning as their starting quarterback, per source. Giants play at home vs Cowboys this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Eli Manning reportedly will be reinstated as the New York Giants starting quarterback after head coach Ben McAdoo was fired Monday, according to Jordan Raanan of ESPN.com (via Adam Schefter of ESPN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Eli Manning reportedly will be reinstated as the New York Giants starting quarterback after head coach Ben McAdoo was fired Monday, according to Jordan Raanan of ESPN.com (via Adam Schefter of ESPN). There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Mara is trying to downplay the Eli fiasco in the decision to fire McAdoo and Reese, but logic and evidence play against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: CLEANING HOUSE I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!! The jets should follow this example forthwith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Media and fan outrage caused all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, jetsons said: The jets should follow this example forthwith. Agree,but they wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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