Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 https://247sports.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/Bolt/TreDavious-White-is-in-the-concussion-protocol-after-Rob-Gronkowski-hit-111667592 Tre'Davious White is in the concussion protocol after Gronk hit Tre'Davious White suffered one of the dirtiest hits in recent memory when Rob Gronkowski elbowed him in the back of the head after the play was over and he was on the ground during the New England Patriots' 23-3 victory over the Buffalo Bills. Now, he is dealing with the aftermath of that play. Bills head coach Sean McDermott told Mike Rodak of ESPN that he was not happy with the play, and that now, White is in the concussion protocol. He has been a complete revelation for the Bills this season, and if their playoff hopes are going to stay alive, they'll need him for the stretch run. The fact that White now has to be evaluated for a concussion due to something Gronkowski did so late after a play ended does not bode well for the Patriots' tight end when it comes to his discipline for the act. The NFL takes head injuries very seriously especially when they don't occur in the regular course of play. There is a very serious chance that Gronkowski could be suspended for this just because he lost his temper. The Patriots will have to prepare for the Miami Dolphins without knowing Gronkowski's fate. The play was undoubtedly dirty, and Gronkowski will be punished in some manner. It might be a fine, it might be a suspension, but he is not getting off scot free for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 James P McCoy @jmccoyphoto21h21 hours ago More New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski (87) antagonized the fans by waving his arms and sticking his tongue out as he walked into the tunnel at the end of the game at New Era Field in Orchard Park,N.Y. on Sunday, Dec. 3, 2017. (James P. McCoy / Buffalo News) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Suspend for the next 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Roided up piece of garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Love how this guy gets the reputation as a player impossible to dislike. Yesterday's behavior should end his "fun-loving" reputation. He also partly blamed the dirty hit on frustration over calls (or lack of calls) he was being assessed. GFY Gronk, you've been getting away with pushing off for years. You're garbage. #PatriotWay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 LMFAO at this thread. I hate the Pats. But mostly because they are so f-ing good and in our division. Not because they are 'cheaters' or play dirty. Was this a cheap shot? Of course it was. But I have seen worse and I have seen it happen numerous occasions, just this season. If White did not get a concussion this would be a nothingburger, Gronk would get a 1 game suspension and everyone would move on. Standard issue. Like it or not Gronk is one of the best TE's, well, possibly ever. And he is not a dirty player. And he is probably a nice guy if you sat down and had a beer with him. Everybody reaches a boiling point sometimes and does something they regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Gronk should be suspended at least 1 game that is bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Gronk should be suspended at least 1 game that is bs Definitely. The NFL can't allow players to go around headhunting much less defenseless players on the ground. If this suspension isn't at least 2 games (upheld, not 2 games then reduced to 1) then Goodell is just trying to get in Kraft's good graces. Talib and Crabtree were suspended two games (reduced to 1) and it was an even fight where both engaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I heard someone say he should get a suspension plus however many games White misses. I don't really know how that would ever work or how it would be governed but I get the point of it... You cost someone playing time, you lose yours too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 In addition to whatever suspension he receives for his action, he should sit for every game White is unable to play due to his injury. This is very different than a cheap shot while a play is in progress -- the dude's head was sandwiched between the ground and Gronk's shot to his noggin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 43 minutes ago, PepPep said: LMFAO at this thread. I hate the Pats. But mostly because they are so f-ing good and in our division. Not because they are 'cheaters' or play dirty. Was this a cheap shot? Of course it was. But I have seen worse and I have seen it happen numerous occasions, just this season. If White did not get a concussion this would be a nothingburger, Gronk would get a 1 game suspension and everyone would move on. Standard issue. Like it or not Gronk is one of the best TE's, well, possibly ever. And he is not a dirty player. And he is probably a nice guy if you sat down and had a beer with him. Everybody reaches a boiling point sometimes and does something they regret. He hit the guy in the neck/head while he was facedown on the ground, without any provocation other than being pissed that the guy picked off the pass. It's the cheapest of cheap shots. On the level of Ndamukong Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Suspend for the next 5 years At least the rest of season including playoffs... unprovoked & intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Trying to remember if there's been something like this this year... A late, clearly intentional hit, that caused a concussion and possible lost playing time. Maybe there's already a precedent set, or maybe the NFL will want to make a statement. Who knows... I'm guessing 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Probably get two games and knock it down to 1 like Evans'. Certainly dirty, but it's the first offense. People are going overboard. And he apologized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Love how this guy gets the reputation as a player impossible to dislike. Yesterday's behavior should end his "fun-loving" reputation. He also partly blamed the dirty hit on frustration over calls (or lack of calls) he was being assessed. GFY Gronk, you've been getting away with pushing off for years. You're garbage. #PatriotWay If Gronk wasn’t a white dude, how would he be perceived? exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He hit the guy in the neck/head while he was facedown on the ground, without any provocation other than being pissed that the guy picked off the pass. It's the cheapest of cheap shots. On the level of Ndamukong Suh. Did he hit him or tried to hump him face down? Maybe something he learned from Hernandez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Probably get two games and knock it down to 1 like Evans'. Certainly dirty, but it's the first offense. People are going overboard. And he apologized. Apologies only matter when they're earnest. As he was leaving the game he acted like a punk, and in the postgame interview, he blamed the refs. He displayed no remorse. Just entitlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Apologies only matter when they're earnest. As he was leaving the game he acted like a punk, and in the post-game, he blamed the refs. It's better than nothing. You're going overboard. This is hardly a unique situation anyways- it's football. Guys take their suspension and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: It's better than nothing. You're going overboard. This is hardly a unique situation anyways. Guys take their suspension and move on. It means exactly nothing, and should have no bearing on his punishment. Sure, he'll take his suspension and people will move on. But now if he ever does anything like this again, he'll face worse than whatever he gets. And he also now has his target on his back from a division rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It means exactly nothing, and should have no bearing on his punishment. Sure, he'll take his suspension and people will move on. But now if he ever does anything like this again, he'll face worse. And he also now has his target on his back from a division rival. I mean Gronk always has a target on his back. He's the biggest guy on the field. Not trying to defend anything Patriots here, but there are far worse cheap shot offenders in the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Gronk should be suspended at least 1 game that is bs How about 6 games. Let him be arrogant like Brady and appeal it. Don’t hold the appeal until end of season, so then he misses all the playoffs ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 should be 2 but if they wanted send a message and say the remainder of the season I don't think it would be crazy either. We're all bias though so we may not be the best crew to determine suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Matt39 said: I mean Gronk always has a target on his back. He's the biggest guy on the field. Not trying to defend anything Patriots here, but there are far worse cheap shot offenders in the league right now. Of course there are. But him being a first-time offender doesn't take away from the act itself. Guys who are known as cheap shot artists at least most of the time are responding to someone else's instigation. This had no instigation. He went after a guy laying face down after having the audacity of picking off a pass. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Probably get two games and knock it down to 1 like Evans'. Certainly dirty, but it's the first offense. People are going overboard. And he apologized. Lol he is only saying sorry to avoid stiffer penalty. If that worked in life we all would cheap shot our boss, say sorry and then go back to work next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 That play reminded my a bit of the Bertuzzi on Moore hockey cheap shot, as far as driving a guys head into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Lol he is only saying sorry to avoid stiffer penalty. If that worked in life we all would cheap shot our boss, say sorry and then go back to work next day. Has Burfict ever apologized? A one time offender is going to get a longer leash than a repeat one. He lost his cool during a football game. Dirty play, looks terrible and he'll get suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: That play reminded my a bit of the Bertuzzi on Moore hockey cheap shot, as far as driving a guys head into the ground. Yup. I was going to bring that up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Suspend for the next 5 years No, but I would suspend him for the rest of the 2017 season and postseason. Want to send a message about how serious the NFL takes blatant headhunting and concussions? Message sent. P.S. Matt39, Pats Fan & Patsy Apologist, who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: No, but I would suspend him for the rest of the 2017 season and postseason. Want to send a message about how serious the NFL takes blatant headhunting and concussions? Message sent. P.S. Matt39, Pats Fan & Patsy Apologist, who knew? Should we retroactively suspend Burfict, Trevathan, Evans, Beckham, Bennett etc for the rest of the season too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Has Burfict ever apologized? A one time offender is going to get a longer leash than a repeat one. He lost his cool during a football game. Dirty play, looks terrible and he'll get suspended. 1st Time offender argument gets thrown out the window when it’s that bad. Plus He is a tight end, playing with the best qb of all time Who very rarely throws INT, so how many times has he actually been in a position where he could tackler/hit a ball handler? For that ratio of bad hits to good he should be punished double. It wasn’t just a late hit, about 5 seconds went by before he tried to injure a player on the ground. Make an example of that scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: 1st Time offender argument gets thrown out the window when it’s that bad. Plus He is a tight end, playing with the best qb of all time Who very rarely throws INT, so how many times has he actually been in a position where he could tackler/hit a ball handler? For that ratio of bad hits to good he should be punished double. It wasn’t just a late hit, about 5 seconds went by before he tried to injure a player on the ground. Make an example of that scumbag. So since AJ Green's QB isnt as good as Brady - his punishment should be lighter than Gronks? Is that the logic were using here? Did Green even get suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, PepPep said: LMFAO at this thread. I hate the Pats. But mostly because they are so f-ing good and in our division. Not because they are 'cheaters' or play dirty. Was this a cheap shot? Of course it was. But I have seen worse and I have seen it happen numerous occasions, just this season. If White did not get a concussion this would be a nothingburger, Gronk would get a 1 game suspension and everyone would move on. Standard issue. Like it or not Gronk is one of the best TE's, well, possibly ever. And he is not a dirty player. And he is probably a nice guy if you sat down and had a beer with him. Everybody reaches a boiling point sometimes and does something they regret. I rarely give a negative rep but I did for this post; are you really saying this??? What if Gronk had snapped that man's neck and he was a cripple that would have been OK with you cause Gronk didn't get some calls? Grow up!!! Good Grief!!! Oh and for the record Gronk has been one of my favorite players in the NFL by far!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Matt39 said: So since AJ Green's QB isnt as good as Brady - his punishment should be lighter than Gronks? Is that the logic were using here? Did Green even get suspended? Dalton 66 ints vs Brady’s 22 in past 4 years, that’s 3 times as many times AJ was in a position to hit someone. I did not see what AJ did, I am not looking around to try to make foolish comparisons to protect a patriots player. You are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We need more Gronks in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, PepPep said: LMFAO at this thread. I hate the Pats. But mostly because they are so f-ing good and in our division. Not because they are 'cheaters' or play dirty. Was this a cheap shot? Of course it was. But I have seen worse and I have seen it happen numerous occasions, just this season. If White did not get a concussion this would be a nothingburger, Gronk would get a 1 game suspension and everyone would move on. Standard issue. Like it or not Gronk is one of the best TE's, well, possibly ever. And he is not a dirty player. And he is probably a nice guy if you sat down and had a beer with him. Everybody reaches a boiling point sometimes and does something they regret. What does Gronk being one of the best TE's have ANYTHING to do with calling it what it was: A bush-league cheap shot that could have ended another player's career? I'm sure Todd Bertuzzi is a helluva guy to sit with and have a beer. Why don't you go ask Steve Moore what he thinks of him, whether he is a nice guy or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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