Maxman Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 New York Jets Head Coach Todd Bowles, 12.4 On what the film showed concerning the offense against the Chiefs… It showed the same thing. I thought they did a good job in all situational football situations – red zone, third downs, backed up – they did a good job controlling the ball. On the key for the team’s third-down efficiency against Kansas City… Execution, obviously, but there were a lot of them that were manageable. We didn’t have the third-and-11+ and the third-and-10+ like we had the past couple weeks, and we had some third-and-shorts and we were able to execute them. On if Josh McCown has exceeded expectations… No, he’s a good football player. He’s been getting injured in the past in parts of his career. When he’s on the field, he’s very effective, and I think he’s got to the point where he’s smart enough to know and realize his talents of what he can and can’t do. I think early in his career, at least from me looking at it, I think he thought he was a 4.4 guy. When he scrambled, he had to dive head-first and run for the first down and try to run people over and take some shots that he didn’t need to take. Now, he’s playing smarter football and he’s having fun. On where he thinks the Jets would be without McCown… I don’t know, that’s hard to tell. I’m just glad we have him. On how the defensive secondary fared against the Chiefs… We didn’t play well. On some of the issues that hampered the defensive secondary… We had a lot of issues, but that was the first time we didn’t play well in a while. We’ll get back at it and get to work and try to fix that next week. On if Alex Smith’s four touchdown passes resulted from players getting beat or missed assignments… There were no missed assignments. On if Smith’s four touchdown passes were the result of players getting beat… It happened. On the injury report from yesterday’s game… Pretty good. For the most part, pretty good. I don’t think anybody has anything major, but we’ll see on Wednesday. On his thoughts about the Giants moving on from Ben McAdoo… It’s unfortunate. Every situation is different. I can’t control what goes on in that building, but you hate to see a fellow guy get let go. But it’s part of the business we have. On if he has received any assurances that he will be back to coach the Jets next season… I’m just trying to get the team better. I’m not going to discuss my job. On if he believes the team has progressed and continued to improve throughout the season… I understand. I’m just trying to get the team better for next week. I’m not going to discuss my job. On if he believes the team has progressed and continued to improve throughout the season… We get better. We have things to learn from every week. We show progress in some areas. Some areas we have to get better at. It’s constant work. On if he appreciates the progress and direction of the team… Guys are working hard and they’re playing together. We’re fighting every week and we’re competing. I’m pleased about that. We just have to go out and clean up some more mistakes and get better. On why he emphasizes accountability… We all have a job to do and we all have work to do. You treat everybody like grown men, which they are, and there are consequences and repercussions for everything that we do here. We have rules that we go by, and you treat them like men. You put in a hard day’s work, and we take no wooden nickels. I don’t believe in beating around the bush. I don’t want anybody to beat around the bush with me. We have our fun but we get our work in. When you don’t work, some excuses are necessary and some things you get away with that are very understandable, and some things aren’t. That’s just how I am. It works for some people. It doesn’t work for other people. On if he believes that he is still learning as a head coach… Always learning. The day you stop learning is the day you stop coaching. On if it is frustrating to have to discipline players and hold them accountable… It’s part of the game, no different than raising your kids – they’re going to do something, and you’re going to be pissed off, but they are still your kids. You love them up the next day and keep it moving. On how confident he is that Darron Lee and Muhammad Wilkerson will not have to be disciplined again moving forward… Time will tell. You earn trust. They’ve earned a lot of trust. You make a mistake, and you lose a little trust, and you just have to earn it back. So going forward, we’ll go from there. On what Wilkerson has done to earn trust… Like I said, these are coaching decisions and team rules we go by. I’m not going to sit here and discuss my players in the media. On if he still considers Wilkerson to be a team leader… Yes he is. On if he thinks it is OK for leaders to repeatedly show up late to meetings… I’m not OK with a lot of things, but I’m not going to sit here and give you a 10-page article on it. On Wilkerson violating team rules and what that says to younger players on the team… The biggest thing is we are family here, and sometimes families do different things. At the end of the day, you love them up, and you may be pissed off for a minute, and you get over it and move on. We treat every incident differently, and we go from there. On how to weed out “wooden nickels”… (Laughter) No, you get to know guys individually and you understand everybody is on the team for a reason. The coaches need to know the players inside-out, and the players need to know the coaches inside-out. There are things we tolerate and things we don’t, and we move on from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 These responses show me that Bowles is learning as a coach. Year One he acted \ answered all this differently. People don't like it. But he handles things behind closed doors and won't sell the players out publicly. That doesn't mean he isn't holding them accountable. Just now, Maxman said: On if Josh McCown has exceeded expectations… No, he’s a good football player. He’s been getting injured in the past in parts of his career. When he’s on the field, he’s very effective, and I think he’s got to the point where he’s smart enough to know and realize his talents of what he can and can’t do. I think early in his career, at least from me looking at it, I think he thought he was a 4.4 guy. When he scrambled, he had to dive head-first and run for the first down and try to run people over and take some shots that he didn’t need to take. Now, he’s playing smarter football and he’s having fun. On if he has received any assurances that he will be back to coach the Jets next season… I’m just trying to get the team better. I’m not going to discuss my job. On if he believes the team has progressed and continued to improve throughout the season… I understand. I’m just trying to get the team better for next week. I’m not going to discuss my job. On if he believes that he is still learning as a head coach… Always learning. The day you stop learning is the day you stop coaching. On if it is frustrating to have to discipline players and hold them accountable… It’s part of the game, no different than raising your kids – they’re going to do something, and you’re going to be pissed off, but they are still your kids. You love them up the next day and keep it moving. On how confident he is that Darron Lee and Muhammad Wilkerson will not have to be disciplined again moving forward… Time will tell. You earn trust. They’ve earned a lot of trust. You make a mistake, and you lose a little trust, and you just have to earn it back. So going forward, we’ll go from there. On what Wilkerson has done to earn trust… Like I said, these are coaching decisions and team rules we go by. I’m not going to sit here and discuss my players in the media. On if he thinks it is OK for leaders to repeatedly show up late to meetings… I’m not OK with a lot of things, but I’m not going to sit here and give you a 10-page article on it. On Wilkerson violating team rules and what that says to younger players on the team… The biggest thing is we are family here, and sometimes families do different things. At the end of the day, you love them up, and you may be pissed off for a minute, and you get over it and move on. We treat every incident differently, and we go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a political insider in the NFL, and will give good answers, but actions speak louder than words and nothing he does, literally almost nothing, leads me to believe that this guy is the right guy to lead this team now and definitely definitely not in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 “Guys are working hard and they’re playing together,” Bowles said. “We’re fighting every week and we’re competing. I’m pleased about that, and we just got to go out and clean up some more mistakes and get better.” Left tackle Kelvin Beachum offered a ringing endorsement for Bowles on his conference call. “As a man and as a player, I love him. I’ll run through a wall for him. I’ve only been here for a year, and I love everything about him,” Beachum said. “That’s my coach. I hope I’m here for a long time and I hope he’s here for a long time, because when you have coaches like that — that you believe in, that you trust — it’s important and it’s good for the game and it’s good for our game as a team, especially with all the ebbs and flows we’ve had this season. He’s remained steady.” http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-insider-todd-bowles-reacts-ben-mcadoo-firing-article-1.3677249 but, but he doesn't show any emotion..but but he doesn't jump up and down on the sideline, throwing his headset onto the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. Have to agree, some of people's "complaints" are based on nothing of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Who cares if he's Chris Rock in his pressers, the team has drastically changed from last year. Young & older talent has improved, the team has been able to compete "above it's weight class" going against good teams and the locker room culture has been cleaned up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnTypicalJET Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 BINGO! I’ve been trying to dodge the elephant in the room. But those individuals whom this applies to should be extremely ashamed of themselves. Comparing this man to Kotite when his overall record is obviously way better. It’s despicable and obviously underlying issues which are their personal problems. I hope TB continues to prove them wrong and then leave them with the pile of mess their use to.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. I don't know about that - but I do think no matter who the coach is there are going to be people that simply don't like him. That are going to find flaws and reasons to want them gone. Bowles has shown himself to be a competent head coach, shown growth and deserves to be back. He has a young team that he's grooming the way HE wants them and it seems to be working. I'm excited for the future of this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. There it is, always looking to use the excuse of race. 99% of people don’t give a crap about the color of his skin. They care about his sh*tty record and the fact that he does nothing to work toward the future of the team. He just tries to keep his job. I bet you only like him because if his race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. I think Bowles is doing a great job this year and I am impressed with his handling of Wilkerson and Lee this past weekend. The way this team is developing, it would be beyond stupid to make any management changes. As far as his race, I just think fans knee jerk reaction when they don’t get instant gratification is to fire someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Joe Jets fan said: There it is, always looking to use the excuse of race. 99% of people don’t give a crap about the color of his skin. They care about his sh*tty record and the fact that he does nothing to work toward the future of the team. He just tries to keep his job. I bet you only like him because if his race. how does he not work towards the future of the team? are you implying he should be tanking the season to get a higher draft pick? i hope not. bowles has taken a fairly young team with lots of new pieces and taught them how to play for the full game. oh, it may not be pretty and they didn't always succeed but nobody on this team has been mailing it in. not like last season. there's still 4 games to go and it's possible that the team could still slip but right now he's got them playing together and he deserves another year hopefully with a better qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Well...he looks better than last year's dumpster fire but if he don't make the playoffs next year, adidos Mr. Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. I agree with "some"; that said I don't think the majority feel that way. His first 2 years had some really bone headed decisions but he has grown each year IMO. I think he has the perfect demeanor to handle the NY media and I like how he holds his players accountable. I think because of his personality and the way they cleaned house this past offseason has allowed Bowles to be the singular voice in the locker room. He's earned an extension this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, KRL said: Who cares if he's Chris Rock in his pressers, the team has drastically changed from last year. Young & older talent has improved, the team has been able to compete "above it's weight class" going against good teams and the locker room culture has been cleaned up As evidenced by having to discipline two starters for last game including the 'leader' mo wilk. No evidence at all that the issues have been cleaned up. He can;t get the best players to play their best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, rangerous said: how does he not work towards the future of the team? are you implying he should be tanking the season to get a higher draft pick? i hope not. bowles has taken a fairly young team with lots of new pieces and taught them how to play for the full game. oh, it may not be pretty and they didn't always succeed but nobody on this team has been mailing it in. not like last season. there's still 4 games to go and it's possible that the team could still slip but right now he's got them playing together and he deserves another year hopefully with a better qb. I ment he will always play the vet over a kid. No matter what he will play the vet. No chance in the world of making the playoffs but the young WR or young QB can’t get any run. As for this team has not quit, well they did last year, and that’s still on him. Only reason team looks better this year is new assistant coach’s. Not Bowles. His in game coaching is still terrible. He makes excuses for his vets. How does Lee and wilk do the same thing but Lee loses an entire game? Especially when wilk has a history of doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, KRL said: Who cares if he's Chris Rock in his pressers, the team has drastically changed from last year. Young & older talent has improved, the team has been able to compete "above it's weight class" going against good teams and the locker room culture has been cleaned up Sure. But the defense still stinks and this regime, like the last, and the one before that feels every important resource needs to be dedicated to building this perfect defense that's never going to happen. The secondary is abysmal. Adams has been lost. I dont get a strong indication that this draft will be any different. Mo quit. Lee's been average at best and has maturity issues. Leo is a good interior lineman who doesnt generate sacks. The best player on the defense is on a one year contract and has past injury issues. The offense is carrying the team with a 40 year old QB and an undrafted FA out of Temple. If Bowles is unwilling to change the approach, then I dont see the point in keeping him around. You can't continually use high draft picks on safeties and interior dlinemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 hours ago, Maxman said: New York Jets Head Coach Todd Bowles, 12.4 On if Josh McCown has exceeded expectations… No, he’s a good football player. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, peebag said: Well...he looks better than last year's dumpster fire but if he don't make the playoffs next year, adidos Mr. Bowles. He’s a lousy coach. 2015 in his first year he won 10 games - barely- because Fitz had a career year. Even that 10 win season was a total fluke as we could have lost many games that we hung onto and pulled out. 2016 was an unmitigated disaster. Bowles had no control, no adaptation to opponents. Just terrible. This year McCown has played just well enough to make this team appear competitive but again they continue to lose games, squander leads, make crucial mistakes which is a reflection of poor discipline due to bad coaching. This guy was a defensive back coach yet our secondary continues to get scourched like a California wildfire. And guess what. He’ll be here again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I don't know about that - but I do think no matter who the coach is there are going to be people that simply don't like him. That are going to find flaws and reasons to want them gone. Bowles has shown himself to be a competent head coach, shown growth and deserves to be back. He has a young team that he's grooming the way HE wants them and it seems to be working. I'm excited for the future of this franchise. Im sorry but I think that is horseshiit. Bowles is a terrible HC. He has no game awareness, he is terrible at situational football, he is very stubborn and inflexible in regards to veterans versus rookies. The big difference this year is offense. We are much better on offense. Kearse has played much better than expected and Robbie Anderson is becoming a matchup nightmare for teams. We have had a favorable schedule and yet people think Bowles is doing a great job because the players are "playing hard". Seriously? Every team in the NFL plays hard. An exception was the Jets last year under this same head coach. It always shocks me how willing some Jets fans are to just accept mediocrity. McClown and Bowles are at best mediocre. He is just not the guy. I see almost nothing positive about him as a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 44 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: I ment he will always play the vet over a kid. No matter what he will play the vet. No chance in the world of making the playoffs but the young WR or young QB can’t get any run. As for this team has not quit, well they did last year, and that’s still on him. Only reason team looks better this year is new assistant coach’s. Not Bowles. His in game coaching is still terrible. He makes excuses for his vets. How does Lee and wilk do the same thing but Lee loses an entire game? Especially when wilk has a history of doing it? a lot of coaches play the vets over the young guys. that's the way parcells was and even rex. there is some truth about the assistant coaches. gailey was pretty much washed up when he was oc and seemed to lose interest. but bowles also hired the guys they have now. as for wilk/lee, i'd say missing a practice is worse than missing a team meeting. also it's harder to teach an old dog new tricks. we'll see if wilk is launched or forced to restructure at the season's end. as for his coaching, i am disappointed in how this defense is playing considering how many resources they poured into it over the past 5 season. but as a hc i'm not sure there's a whole lot of coaching he needs to do. he needs to set the tone as to how he wants the team to play. the play calling is from the oc and dc. the other thing is he is learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. That is such a bunch of horsesh*t. People don't like him because they feel he is just a lousy coach. Period. They don't like that his defense has issues in spite of a good deal of 1st rounders. They dont like his decision making and time management. They don't like his lack of emotion. They feel the 4th quarter collapses are a direct result of his coaching or non coaching. I don't agree with all of the criticism that he gets but it has nothing to do with race. Macc is white right? He gets just as much sh*t if not more than Bowles. People want both of them fired and it is solely based on results, not race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Joe Jets fan said: He makes excuses for his vets. How does Lee and wilk do the same thing but Lee loses an entire game? Especially when wilk has a history of doing it? Because they didn't do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, C Mart said: I'm convinced some here just don't like Bowles because of his race. I hear what you are saying but I truly truly hope that you are wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, rangerous said: a lot of coaches play the vets over the young guys. that's the way parcells was and even rex. there is some truth about the assistant coaches. gailey was pretty much washed up when he was oc and seemed to lose interest. but bowles also hired the guys they have now. as for wilk/lee, i'd say missing a practice is worse than missing a team meeting. also it's harder to teach an old dog new tricks. we'll see if wilk is launched or forced to restructure at the season's end. as for his coaching, i am disappointed in how this defense is playing considering how many resources they poured into it over the past 5 season. but as a hc i'm not sure there's a whole lot of coaching he needs to do. he needs to set the tone as to how he wants the team to play. the play calling is from the oc and dc. the other thing is he is learning. And shows I am correct in saying we can have a healthy debate if Bowles is a good coach and nether of us could care less what his skin color is. Which was the entire point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, jamesr said: Because they didn't do the same thing. Yes, the veteran leader with the history of discipline problems was late to a meeting while the 2nd year player with no history of any problems was late to a practice. And which one deserved a game on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, UnTypicalJET said: BINGO! I’ve been trying to dodge the elephant in the room. But those individuals whom this applies to should be extremely ashamed of themselves. Comparing this man to Kotite when his overall record is obviously way better. It’s despicable and obviously underlying issues which are their personal problems. I hope TB continues to prove them wrong and then leave them with the pile of mess their use to. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Completely disagree. It's the same problem that Ryan and Edwards had; a dynamic passing offense is not something he values.In today's NFL, he's a beeper salesman in an iphone world.You can plausibly expect to win a few games with a decent defense, a running game and minimizing mistakes. But unless you incorporate passing effectively it's fools gold. He only really coaches the defense, and they've won 5 bum fights, basically. Johnson gets in the interview with a coaching candidate and LOVES that fake tough guy defense nonsense. And the guy apparently won't play the young QBs. With a playoff berth as likely as a Miss America title (to say nothing of draft position) this is disgraceful. He by design will never play a young QB. Case Kennum and Jared Goff areplaying well because they got a shot. Petty and Hackenberg(and the latter may not be an NFL QB, but I digress) will not play here. They won't be developed. Drafting a QB with thisscared pussified run/run/3rd and 8 pass offense would be a disaster. Bowles, unlike Ryan, seems like a decent guy. But he should never have been promoted above DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Recall Adams pulls a bush league stunt with Cam Newton, no issue.Could have been 15 yards and was lucky it wasn't. Bowles says nothing. Anderson merely mentions he wants to be in the Pro Bowl(well deserved), and Coach Bowles cannot wait to ream him out. There is an issue here. Bowles is a defense first and only guy. That doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Bugg said: Recall Adams pulls a bush league stunt with Cam Newton, no issue.Could have been 15 yards and was lucky it wasn't. Bowles says nothing. The media praised Jamal Adams for it so, I don't know if they would call it bush league Maybe so, but the irony is that Bowles has gotten more production out of his QBs than Rex seemingly did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: Sure. But the defense still stinks and this regime, like the last, and the one before that feels every important resource needs to be dedicated to building this perfect defense that's never going to happen. The secondary is abysmal. Adams has been lost. I dont get a strong indication that this draft will be any different. Mo quit. Lee's been average at best and has maturity issues. Leo is a good interior lineman who doesnt generate sacks. The best player on the defense is on a one year contract and has past injury issues. The offense is carrying the team with a 40 year old QB and an undrafted FA out of Temple. If Bowles is unwilling to change the approach, then I dont see the point in keeping him around. You can't continually use high draft picks on safeties and interior dlinemen. If the top pick is not a QB or a LT, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Maybe so, but the irony is that Bowles has gotten more production out of his QBs than Rex seemingly did All Ryan did was run the ball.Not a very high bar for passing offense. A bit like saying Iceland has a better hockey team than Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bugg said: All Ryan did was run the ball.Not a very high bar for passing offense. A bit like saying Iceland has a better hockey team than Mexico. I just find it fascinating that in two of the 3 years that Bowles has been here, they have gotten great production out of the QB. And yet because of the age and history, the position is still a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bugg said: Recall Adams pulls a bush league stunt with Cam Newton, no issue.Could have been 15 yards and was lucky it wasn't. Bowles says nothing. Anderson merely mentions he wants to be in the Pro Bow(well deserved), and Coach Bolwes cannot wait to ream him out. There is an issue here. Bowles is a defense first and only guy. That doesn't work. With all due respect you have no idea what you are saying is fact and are mearly speculating at best. How do we know this? Because Bowles has repeatedly stated over and over again that he disciplines in house; in house........ so that means we don't know if this was Lee's first infraction or not; whether Adams was disciplined or not; what he has or has not said to Anderson in the past, we don't know. The fact that we heard and saw the discipline this last time only occurred because it was related to playing time. As the late John Wooden used to say "the easiest way to be unfair is treat everyone the same": Bowles is coaching guys to be better and be great and based upon Anderson's on the field performance he is becoming Great without being a nut case like the other guy in a Giants uniform.... And IMO Bowles deserves credit for that and not condemnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I just find it fascinating that in two of the 3 years that Bowles has been here, they have gotten great production out of the QB. And yet because of the age and history, the position is still a problem Which is even more evidence that both Petty and Hack must be downright horrible. If Bowles and the coaches could get 2015 out of Fitz and this year out of McCown, both of whom were considered journeymen bums, I think they could do the same if Macc drafts them a real QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Yeah it is for sure 100% that Todd Bowles has designed a good offense and has been coaching up the QBs so that they perform at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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