Jetster Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Sometimes you have to be bold in this league to get to the Super Bowl. Tannenbaum ALMOST pulled it off trading for malcontents like Braylon Edwards & Santonio Holmes. For S and Gs imagine for one moment that Macc & Bowles somehow pull off getting Kirk Cousins in here. Josh Gordon is an restricted free agent in 2018. We offer our second 2nd round pick from Seattle, probably between 25-32 to the Browns for Josh Gordon. Now, we still have our #1, for hopefully a LT That falls to us & our pretty high 1st second rounder for BPA (Stud RB?). We go after whoever we believe is the best veteran center on the market out of (Weston Richburg-Giants- Joe Berger (Vikings)- Corey Lindsey (Packers & my personal favorite). So, that still leaves your 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th round picks left. Plus you've only signed 2 free agents in Cousins + Center. You would have Cousins throwing to Josh Gordon- Quincy Enunwa- Jerome Kearse- Robby Anderson- w/Hansen & Stewart for breathers! You resign ASJ, hopefully Leggette is healthy & ready to roll- You have Stud 2nd round RB (usually a GREAT place to take a RB that falls mid-second like Dalvin Cook last year- Powell- Stud 2nd round RB- McGuire. You use any leftover cap room on resign Claiborne, Ealy, find a DT after cutting Mo. Hopefully you find a diamond in the rough pass rusher out of one of those last 5 picks. You have Donahue coming back, and 2 guys we have no clue about yet in Jeremy Clark & Derrick Jones. Plus we have Lucky Whitehead next year who if healthy just might solidify our return game? Are these crazy ideas for the NY Jets offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I would not give up a 2nd round pick for Gordon let alone when we need to worry about our QB first and foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Not to mention Cousins doesn't lock in on 1 receiver, he spreads the ball around. I don't think there is any reason to waste a high pick on a player who could be out of the league tomorrow when the receivers on this team have not been the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Yes, it would be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Would it be crazy to give up a 2 for Josh Gordon?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 lolwut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Not to mention Cousins doesn't lock in on 1 receiver, he spreads the ball around. I don't think there is any reason to waste a high pick on a player who could be out of the league tomorrow when the receivers on this team have not been the issue. Josh Gordon, if you had Kirk Cousins as your QB would make this offense almost unstoppable with a solidified Oline. The dude hadn't played football for 3 years & dominated with Kiser throwing him the ball! He had 85 yards, lol, and Kiser missed him like 5 times. Of course there are risks but holy sh*t if he comes in with a full camp ready to roll talking about breaking records. He had over 1600 yards playing for the CLEVELAND BROWNS! Do you know how hard it would be to defend the Jets offense with teams trying to cover Gordon with Enunwa (hybrid WR/TE), Kearse, Anderson flying on the other side vs a 2nd CB, ASJ in the middle of the field? MetLife would be f*cking PACKED I can tell you that! Be an exciting freaking team! Speed, Power, and versatile as all get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Yes, it would be, especially since we need a long-term answer at QB. If need be I would give up our first and one of our second picks (and maybe #1 next year) for the first overall pick so that we can select Allen, Rosen or Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, Freemanm said: Yes, it would be, especially since we need a long-term answer at QB. If need be I would give up our first and one of our second picks (and maybe #1 next year) for the first overall pick so that we can select Allen, Rosen or Darnold. The scenario is IF we could secure Cousins as our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Freemanm said: Yes, it would be, especially since we need a long-term answer at QB. If need be I would give up our first and one of our second picks (and maybe #1 next year) for the first overall pick so that we can select Allen, Rosen or Darnold. I doubt that's enough. Probably 3 firstd plus more picks at a minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 it would be crazy to give up anything for Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, nyjunc said: it would be crazy to give up anything for Gordon. You didn't watch him play on Sunday. Obviously, the suspension potential is high, but he seems to have turned his life around and he will be a top 5 WR next year. He was dominating Casey Hayward this week like no one else did and it was just his first game back. If he had mccown as his QB he would have gone for near 200 yards and 2 Tds. He was that good. Since we got a free 2nd rounder for Sheldon, it would be a great move but something this front office would never do so it's all a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I know there are some questions about his accrued years, but... isn't he a free agent? LOL at "kizer missed him like 5 times" reception percentage is a thing for WRs too. He had 85 yards on 11 targets. Not great. I would like to bring in Pryor, though not if we get Cousins. Their lack of chemistry is alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Josh Gordon is thisclose to being permanently banned from the NFL. Clearly trading a premium pick for him is a logical course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: I know there are some questions about his accrued years, but... isn't he a free agent? No, he didn't accrue time towards FA during suspension. He's a RFA in 2019 https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/12/4/16735148/how-long-do-the-browns-control-the-rights-to-josh-gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Okay, so still a free agent. Like Enunwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Cleveland has Josh Gordon and not much else as far as weapons. They won’t let him get away. They desperately need playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Anything higher than a conditional 7th would be crazy. The condition being that he actually, you know, plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He is 4X better than anyone on the roster. He is a force when he plays. He will draw double coverage while Anderson becomes the next Wesley Walker. He will always have to be game planned for. He can make a jag like McCown look like the next Rich Gannon. He would be an instant NY media star. He would make the NY press forget ODB and that would be great. And with all that said you would have to be insane to sign this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: He is 4X better than anyone on the roster. He is a force when he plays. He will draw double coverage while Anderson becomes the next Wesley Walker. He will always have to be game planned for. He can make a jag like McCown look like the next Rich Gannon. He would be an instant NY media star. He would make the NY press forget ODB and that would be great. And with all that said you would have to be insane to sign this guy. That's why it always pays to read things to the end. I was wondering where you were going with this. Had me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 That would not be a wise decision for us at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Yes it would be crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Fvck it, just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: Not to mention Cousins doesn't lock in on 1 receiver, he spreads the ball around. I don't think there is any reason to waste a high pick on a player who could be out of the league tomorrow when the receivers on this team have not been the issue. Gordon has done well for himself lately. Been off the drugs. I think he’s learned his lesson. Been drug free for a long time now from what I’ve read. I know it takes one slip up but same could be said about ANY player. Conditional 2nd for Gordon structured in a way that we protect ourselves somewhat if he gets suspended in the near future would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a top 10 WR in the NFL entering his prime. Hell yeah I would. not sure Cleveland would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think he will be a RFA this offseason, or next. Who wouldn't want that kind of talent, but who wants to deal with the potential issues? Fantasy Football, yes I would get him. Real life, I leave it up to Mac.... I don't see it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: You didn't watch him play on Sunday. Obviously, the suspension potential is high, but he seems to have turned his life around and he will be a top 5 WR next year. He was dominating Casey Hayward this week like no one else did and it was just his first game back. If he had mccown as his QB he would have gone for near 200 yards and 2 Tds. He was that good. Since we got a free 2nd rounder for Sheldon, it would be a great move but something this front office would never do so it's all a moot point. it has nothing to do w/ him as a player, he's a great player but he already has another chance that he maybe didn't even deserve. One more strike and he's gone forever. It's too risky to give up anything of significance no matter how talented he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 IIRC, his only drug was weed. And the only “real” issue was that he didn’t think he should have to give it up, so he didn’t. This is all about background check type work. Who is he friends with, what’s deal with family dynamic, etc. You put that work in, trust the results and make your decision. Jetster I appreciate that you think outside the box and are willing to give consideration to these “crazy” thoughts. Don’t let the sheep hold you back. Guy is GOOOOOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 A #2 on Gordon would be absurd. Kid is incredibly immature, a total risk and hasn’t played in 2 years. Even Mac isn’t that dumb. And Cousins isn’t coming to NY. He aint that stupid either. This team has way to many holes, a lousy OL and he could choose from a number more stable teams that are ready to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, BrickTamland said: IIRC, his only drug was weed. And the only “real” issue was that he didn’t think he should have to give it up, so he didn’t. This is all about background check type work. Who is he friends with, what’s deal with family dynamic, etc. You put that work in, trust the results and make your decision. Jetster I appreciate that you think outside the box and are willing to give consideration to these “crazy” thoughts. Don’t let the sheep hold you back. Guy is GOOOOOOD. Browns to Gordon: Ok I’ll give you 10 million a year if you stop smoking weed from August through January. Gordon to Browns: nah mon are you buggin. I feel the need for weed. Dude has a major problem. Abusing weed or alcohol is a huge issue. Anyone who would sacrifice their career to smoke weed or drink excessively and squander millions is indeed a sick puppy and needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 NO JUST DO IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just no. If he stays clean, in a year or 2 he'll be up for a big contract. Do you give it to him? What have we learned? You only give the big contracts to the guys you KNOW are going to earn it. If you don't, you gave up a 2 for a year or 2 of him. I hope, for his sake, his life is turned around. I believe he should be allowed to play in the NFL. I would not sign him to my team for any large contract, nor would I give up any premium (first 3 rounds) draft picks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 i think the Jets WR's are the strongest unit the Jets have going into 2018. No way I'd go after Gordon. If the Jets are going to be trading picks for players, it should be to fill a hole, not add to a strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Only if you believe drunks and drug addicts are the key to success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 If the league wakes up and tweaks the CBA to allow weed, then sure. Until then, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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