Stark Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000889613/article/jets-oc-wants-qb-josh-mccown-back-for-another-year Josh McCown was supposed to be a bridge to nowhere. Instead, the 38-year-old propelled the Jets to five wins and contention in the 2017 AFC playoff picture. McCown now has his offensive coordinator pining for another season. John Morton was asked Thursday if he'd like to have the veteran back next season. "Sure. Why wouldn't I?" Morton said, via the New York Daily News. "Look at the stats. But I don't make that decision. You can ask the head coach that and the people upstairs." Todd Bowles has already insisted McCown will start the rest of the season. Without seeing Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenberg this season, it's virtually impossible either could be a viable candidate to start next year. McCown has performed admirably all season, displaying heady playmaking and a willingness to push the ball downfield to a gaggle of young pass-catchers, including big-play machine Robby Anderson. McCown is on pace for career highs in completion percentage (67.8), passing touchdowns (18), and rushing touchdowns (5). Even if analysts hate to admit it, McCown has been a top-15 quarterback on balance this season, leading a group that on paper has zero business moving the ball with such steadiness. "He's been consistent," Morton said of McCown. "He's perfect for this offense." It's impossible to watch McCown's renaissance in a Jets jersey and not be reminded of Ryan Fitzpatrick's magical 2015 season. Fitzy set franchise records one season, then cratered the next season. Surely Gang Green fans are wary of the bottom falling out again with another veteran quarterback. McCown's play under Morton (who deserves recognition as an assistant coach of the year candidate) warrants another chance to be a starting quarterback. In the end, however, the veteran remains a bridge. A bridge to where we don't know. Extending that passage another season only makes sense if New York has a transition plan down the line. As of now, there appears no viable candidate on the horizon, and the wins McCown has piled up could prohibit one from being drafted early in 2018. If this is going to happen ( Fitz 2.0 ) then whoo, hoo..... SMH... I guess we are drafting Stidham in the 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 When's the press conference to announce him the 2018 starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Again, this is going to be the greatest 7-9 season in NFL history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have no problems with this. Having him around in training camp/preseason/ and the first three weeks of 2018, before he gets his annual injury (that he’s skipped this year) will not hurt our draftees’ contributions to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 So let me get this straight; coach is asked if he'd want a current player back next year and the coach said yes. Was there another answer he should have given? Or even another answer he could have given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 At this point, what choice do the Jets have? They can go after Cousins, and bid against 2 or 3 teams, or they can resign McCown to a team friendly deal for a season or two. Either way, next year will be Year 4 of this FO/HC. If things go south, they both need to be gone. If they plan on extending both of them without either of them getting and developing a QB for the long haul, then I guess 6 or 7 wins is acceptable to ownership. And us fans need to adjust our expectations and hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Integrity28 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 So, we don't have McCown under contract for next year - do we? But here we are deeming him the starter. Didn't these idiots do this and screw themselves in negotiation with Fitz? Mmmm, hmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 36 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: So let me get this straight; coach is asked if he'd want a current player back next year and the coach said yes. Was there another answer he should have given? Or even another answer he could have given? Seriously. His initial reaction really sums it up quite perfectly: "Sure. Why wouldn't I?" Morton said Yeah, them's some bold words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 This was inevitable the second we passed on Watson. 100% chance we draft Allen and bring back McCown as the starter under the argument that he's gonna be the leadery transition mentor guy. No doubt. Put it in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This was inevitable the second we passed on Watson. 100% chance we draft Allen and bring back McCown as the starter under the argument that he's gonna be the leadery transition mentor guy. No doubt. Put it in the bank. Oh yeah, it's a near certainty, barring an unlikely Cousin's signing. But that will have nothing to do with Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Does this stupid friggin' franchise ever learn their lesson??? If McCown is anywhere near this team next year, every bozo in the front office should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Have to take your hats off to the guys steering this ship .. they're working hard to solidify another decade of low end mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 "Sports contracts for $500 Alex!" $15,000,000? "What is Josh Mccowns pay for 2018?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Josh McCown Sucks AND Todd Bowles Sucks for starting him AND the Jets offense is playing well AND John Morton is Good AND John Morton wants McCown back AND Josh McCown Sucks. UH OH WHAT DO I DO NOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I bet you Jet fans that don't want a Cousins signing if possible are changing your tune now,lol. Todd Bowles year four...searching for 8-8, hopefully 9-7 in 2019 if McCowns still Healthy. He'll only be 40 & hopefully following Bradys new health book. Stidham should be ready in 2020. Only 10 years without making the playoffs during the worst period of play the NFL has ever produced, with teams at 5-7 still in the hunt for Wildcard spots. I just wish we could be part of the parity that at least gets a Wildcard. Too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 What is he supposed to say? 'we will never win a SB with this guy', or 'nah, we have been colluding with Cousins agent to get him here'. Seriously, not news. I look at it this way. We are either going to draft a QB or sign someone like Cousins. If we draft a QB, you ware going to need a quality experienced backup. So, if we draft Baker, we still need him. If we sign Cousins, we won't. Did they ask if they wanted him to be the starter? Still what is he going to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I need to seriously know if some of you are actually upset with this or if you're just circle-jerking on a slow news day. Like, do any of you really expect to hear a different answer from a coach regarding a player currently on the team? I have vocally expressed my displeasure with the decision to keep playing the guy, but he's played well, has been a good fit for Morton's system, is well liked by his coaches and teammates, he's going to be the starter for the rest of the season. Why the F*CK would Morton answer this any differently? Name me one (successful) coach who has answered this stupid question, that is simply asked to create some click-bait story during a slow news week, that moronic and reactionary fans sh*t themselves over, any differently. Why would any coach stir that pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I need to seriously know if some of you are actually upset with this or if you're just circlejerking on a slow news day. Like, do any of you really expect to hear a different answer from a coach regarding a player currently on the team? I have vocally expressed my displeasure with the decision to keep playing the guy, but he's played well and is well liked by his coaches and teammates. He's going to be the starter for the rest of the season. Why the F*CK would Morton answer this any differently? No sh*t -- you stole my thunder. Why wouldn't he say that, nay, why wouldn't we want him back? This has been the oddest year for fickle fans who seem to want to hate the only thing we've been calling for on offense. Keeping McCown around as your bandaide Journeyman is not a bad move. Nobody is under any illusion about what a 39 year old QB would be expected to do in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, Paradis said: No sh*t -- you stole my thunder. Why wouldn't he say that, nay, why wouldn't we want him back? This has been the oddest year for fickle fans who seem to want to hate the only thing we've been calling for on offense. Keeping McCown around as your bandaide Journeyman is not a bad move. Nobody is under any illusion about what a 39 year old QB would be expected to do in 2018 Exactly. It seems that anything short of calling McCown the bastard child of Adolph Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer is a "bad answer". I said it 6(?) weeks ago with decent knowledge that fell on deaf ears around here. Don't be shocked if he's back to be a bridge to the young guy we draft or, at the very least, be a back up to the guy leading the charge (Cousins, draft pick who was declared starter, etc.). The FO likes him. The players like him. The coaches like him. Unlike Fitz, the dude is an excellent mentor with a great football mind. He's constantly described as a guy who will coach one day, and do it well. Keeping him around is far from a bad idea. Signing him to a 2 year 24-27 million dollar deal on the other hand....yeah. However, this isn't Fitz and that likely isn't happening unless McCown starts building the absurd ego Fitzpatrick did. There also aren't a bunch of pissed off Vets to protest in his favor because they want to "win now". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, ChuckkieB said: Does this stupid friggin' franchise ever learn their lesson??? If McCown is anywhere near this team next year, every bozo in the front office should be fired. Yes, (potentially) having a QB room of Draft Pick, Bryce Petty, and Christian Hackenberg sounds like a rock solid idea that is in no way, shape, or form a bad idea when trying to develop a young QB. Having no veteran presence to help the kid is 110% the right way to do it. Christian and Bryce have a ton of wisdom to offer, should there be hiccups along the way. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: When's the press conference to announce him the 2018 starter? The Jets are exactly who we think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Exactly. It seems that anything short of calling McCown the bastard child of Adolph Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer is a "bad answer". I said it 6(?) weeks ago with decent knowledge that fell on deaf ears around here. Don't be shocked if he's back to be a bridge to the young guy we draft or, at the very least, be a back up to the guy leading the charge (Cousins, draft pick who was declared starter, etc.). The FO likes him. The players like him. The coaches like him. Unlike Fitz, the dude is an excellent mentor with a great football mind. He's constantly described as a guy who will coach one day, and do it well. Keeping him around is far from a bad idea. Signing him to a 2 year 24-27 million dollar deal on the other hand....yeah. However, this isn't Fitz and that likely isn't happening unless McCown starts building the absurd ego Fitzpatrick did. There also aren't a bunch of pissed off Vets to protest in his favor because they want to "win now".Million yeses. This guy has done right by us in virtually every category, and yet the majority are calling for his scalp. Because... they think Petty will what? - outperform McCown? Look so fcking good that we re-examine our options next year??? Lol like wtf. “Hey screw the locker room, let’s march out worse starters because I️ have an itch to see someone who’s sh*tty....” cause that’s worked out in the past. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: When's the press conference to announce him the 2018 starter? Knowing Bowles and his clown car buddies prolly tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerfish Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, Paradis said: Million yeses. This guy has done right by us in virtually every category, and yet the majority are calling for his scalp. Because... they think Petty will what? - outperform McCown? Look so fcking good that we re-examine our options next year??? Lol like wtf. “Hey screw the locker room, let’s march out worse starters because I️ have an itch to see someone who’s sh*tty....” cause that’s worked out in the past. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This whole boo hoo looker room will fold stuff is bs. Playing a goff and wetnz last year and trubisky this year has just killed those poor locker rooms. Our locker room is sh*tty as it is, with leaders like mo wilk. No problem with morton liking mccown but I'd like to also see some of our Qb coaches or ocs give a sh*t about the guys under the age of 35 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, The Crusher said: The Jets are exactly who we think they are. We play to win the game....roughly 6 of them each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 32 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Exactly. It seems that anything short of calling McCown the bastard child of Adolph Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer is a "bad answer". I said it 6(?) weeks ago with decent knowledge that fell on deaf ears around here. Don't be shocked if he's back to be a bridge to the young guy we draft or, at the very least, be a back up to the guy leading the charge (Cousins, draft pick who was declared starter, etc.). The FO likes him. The players like him. The coaches like him. Unlike Fitz, the dude is an excellent mentor with a great football mind. He's constantly described as a guy who will coach one day, and do it well. Keeping him around is far from a bad idea. Signing him to a 2 year 24-27 million dollar deal on the other hand....yeah. However, this isn't Fitz and that likely isn't happening unless McCown starts building the absurd ego Fitzpatrick did. There also aren't a bunch of pissed off Vets to protest in his favor because they want to "win now". right. i think mccown's qbr is a little inflated but he lends some stability to the position and from all accounts, quite a bit of leadership. i know some fans pins 3 losses directly on him. fair enough. he did lose the carolina game, but the other losses can be pinned to the poor execution of the oline and/or the defense sagging. this is a young team and assuming they draft a top prospect, he's not going to be truly ready on day one. very few qb's transition successfully from college to the nfl without riding the bench for a few games. the bottom line is they will need a vet next season anyway so mccown should at least be in the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 John Morton this is for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, nycdan said: We play to win the game....roughly 6 of them each season. Shhh, don’t tell Woody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 After hearing this, sources say that Christian Hackenberg stormed out of the classroom and locked himself in his bedroom: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 This whole boo hoo looker room will fold stuff is bs. Playing a goff and wetnz last year and trubisky this year has just killed those poor locker rooms. Our locker room is sh*tty as it is, with leaders like mo wilk. No problem with morton liking mccown but I'd like to also see some of our Qb coaches or ocs give a sh*t about the guys under the age of 35 or so.The difference in perspective that I’m coming from is - the staff and locker room know the two backups are sh*t. Why do you need to show us to prove it. Where does it end? Do we bench Kearse so Hansen can play? Do you bench Claiborne for Burris? If everyone on pay roll knows the other QBs are dramatically less productive, then benching McCown is going to cause strife. That’s what I️ believe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, bostonmajet said: What is he supposed to say? 'we will never win a SB with this guy', or 'nah, we have been colluding with Cousins agent to get him here'. Seriously, not news. I look at it this way. We are either going to draft a QB or sign someone like Cousins. If we draft a QB, you ware going to need a quality experienced backup. So, if we draft Baker, we still need him. If we sign Cousins, we won't. Did they ask if they wanted him to be the starter? Still what is he going to say? Thanks for the sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Why wouldn't you want your second string qb back wether he is starting or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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