Matt39 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 You ever ask why we suck? The last 3 defensive players we’ve taken in the first round play invisible positions and have contributed zero impact plays. They are all leaders of men however. Adams- zero interceptions. Lee- not sure what he does. Williams- 1 sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 You can’t quantify leadership. Those quality 5-11 seasons don’t happen by accident, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: You ever ask why we suck? The last 3 defensive players we’ve taken in the first round play invisible positions and have contributed zero impact plays. They are all leaders of men however. Adams- zero interceptions. Lee- not sure what he does. Williams- 1 sack. Williams is playing with a bad wrist. Considering his game consists of hand technique and power, that's a problem. Lee was looking good. I hope the Shazier situation hasn't made him gun shy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Its scary. We take these guys high in rnd 1 and none of them make game changing defensive plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 They're like good contributing players good teams take in the 2nd-3rd rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Lee was looking good. Do you not see how often the guy is pushed around--not just by blockers, but by the guy he is supposed to tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: They're like good contributing players good teams take in the 2nd-3rd rounds. Was thinking about this today... What do you think you could trade Adams for right now? Could you get a late 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 We need another first round DE, make it happen Macc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, detectivekimble said: Williams is playing with a bad wrist. Considering his game consists of hand technique and power, that's a problem. Everyone is hurt in the NFL. If he is out there dancing and running his mouth about a sack a week then he is responsible for his play regardless of a boo boo on his wrist or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, southtown24th said: We need another first round DE, make it happen Macc! I guarantee he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Meanwhile Aaron Donald doesn't even report to camp all summer, shows up and wrecks the league. They're just not that good. They're... alright. They're not players you pass on a QB for. Or WR1. Or legit pass rusher. or basically anything Outside of OG, those are 3 most backseat positions in the game of football. A Tackle, a LB, and Safety. Fcking A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I question the coaching seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 These players fell into our lap in the draft for a reason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Macagnan is TERRIBLE GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, sourceworx said: These players fell into our lap in the draft for a reason.... Leonard Williams is the big card Macc-defenders like Canadasteve and UnitedWhofans like to use. He’s an ok run stopping DE who we passed on Vic Beasley for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Let's be honest though a lot of us on here wanted Adams but damn he's just been bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Leonard Williams is the big card Macc-defenders like Canadasteve and UnitedWhofans like to use. He’s an ok run stopping DE who we passed on Vic Beasley for The consensus best player fell to us at 6, I'm not upset with that. After whiffing on so many draft picks I don't really have a problem going with the "safe selection" these first 3 years. I won't argue they may not earn their draft spot but I think high floor good character guys was the idea in the first round since Macc has come in. IMO this will be the draft to seriously roll the dice on players now that we should have a base of players and cap space to work with. The difference with the year 1 FA splurge and this years FA is that the coaches and GM have a baseline of players that they are building around, they didn't have the knowledge of knowing what this roster was when they came in. (Or at least that's the justification I want to believe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: The consensus best player fell to us at 6, I'm not upset with that. After whiffing on so many draft picks I don't really have a problem going with the "safe selection" these first 3 years. I won't argue they may not earn their draft spot but I think high floor good character guys was the idea in the first round since Macc has come in. IMO this will be the draft to seriously roll the dice on players now that we should have a base of players and cap space to work with. The difference with the year 1 FA splurge and this years FA is that the coaches and GM have a baseline of players that they are building around, they didn't have the knowledge of knowing what this roster was when they came in. (Or at least that's the justification I want to believe) So tired of the word “consensus” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 39 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I guarantee he will It's coming. Let's get another safety! YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, southtown24th said: It's coming. Let's get another safety! YES! Dude, but it will be the “consensus” best defensive player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Dude, but it will be the “consensus” best defensive player a gem that just "falls" in the jets lap crazy how we always get so lucky like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hitman Harris said: a gem that just "falls" in the jets lap crazy how we always get so lucky like that! We are so lucky we keep getting these once in a generation Defensive Tackles, ILB’s and Safeties — WATCH OUT BRADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: We are so lucky we keep getting these once in a generation Defensive Tackles, ILB’s and Safeties — WATCH OUT BRADY Just slipping right out of the 1st overall pick right to us... Like the pick of destiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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