southtown24th Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21836489/2018-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-preview-background-scouting-reports-pro-fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Good read, proper breakdown. My favorite part is what they say about the Jets: "Here's another team like Cleveland perpetually searching for answers at QB." lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Good read, proper breakdown. My favorite part is what they say about the Jets: "Here's another team like Cleveland perpetually searching for answers at QB." lmfao Yup. Cleveland and the Jets. Right where we belong, hand in hand...two worst franchises in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Yup. Cleveland and the Jets. Right where we belong, hand in hand...two worst franchises in the NFL. Do you think the potential of Deshon Kizer prevents the Browns from taking a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, JiF said: Good read, proper breakdown. My favorite part is what they say about the Jets: "Here's another team like Cleveland perpetually searching for answers at QB." lmfao here ya go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, JiF said: Do you think the potential of Deshon Kizer prevents the Browns from taking a QB? Kizer sucks, why would Cleveland waste another opportunity to draft a savior QB? Not with John Dorsey at the helm they won't. It will be Rosen or Darnold to Cleveland at number one. The Giants will take the other guy at three leaving the Jets to decide if Mayfield or Allen is the guy they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: Kizer sucks, why would Cleveland waste another opportunity to draft a savior QB? Not with John Dorsey at the helm they won't. It will be Rosen or Darnold to Cleveland at number one. The Giants will take the other guy at three leaving the Jets to decide if Mayfield or Allen is the guy they want. and watch someone else take them because of Andy Reid LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 Jets are going to have to make a tough decision, that's for damn sure. I say take Best QB available, regardless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, JiF said: Do you think the potential of Deshon Kizer prevents the Browns from taking a QB? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: Jets are going to have to make a tough decision, that's for damn sure. I say take Best PLAYER available ( BPA ), regardless... FIXED ^ ^ cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 hopefully the jets get at shot at one of the top 4. one thing that always strikes me about these articles is how kiper and mcshay can rank a qb like rosen or darnold the top qb prospect but not the top prospect in the draft. given the importance of the position, the top qb, especially when they grade out like rosen or darnold should also be the top prospect in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Is it me or does Allen remind you of Hackenburg? I think the notion of the QB with the raw skills who can be taught to succeed in the NFL is very flawed. I would rather have a QB that was successful in college, so long as it was not a complete college system fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, varjet said: Is it me or does Allen remind you of Hackenburg? I think the notion of the QB with the raw skills who can be taught to succeed in the NFL is very flawed. I would rather have a QB that was successful in college, so long as it was not a complete college system fluke. Also Jake Locker, someone posted an article that mentioned Locker, and Damn right that is the comp. lets just hope like Locker , Allen stays in school another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: Kizer sucks, why would Cleveland waste another opportunity to draft a savior QB? Not with John Dorsey at the helm they won't. It will be Rosen or Darnold to Cleveland at number one. The Giants will take the other guy at three leaving the Jets to decide if Mayfield or Allen is the guy they want. 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, southtown24th said: Yup. Cleveland and the Jets. Right where we belong, hand in hand...two worst franchises in the NFL. Not even remotely true by any objective criteria, but yeah, poor you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Ex-Rex said: Kizer sucks, why would Cleveland waste another opportunity to draft a savior QB? Not with John Dorsey at the helm they won't. It will be Rosen or Darnold to Cleveland at number one. The Giants will take the other guy at three leaving the Jets to decide if Mayfield or Allen is the guy they want. Denver and Bengals are ahead of the Jets right now. If the Jets want one of those 4 they're going to have to trade up. Giants will be picking 2 - if not someone moves up to the 2 spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Keep an eye on the QB from Virginia Kurt Benkert , I have a feeling he's going to be rising up the draft boards in the upcoming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Denver and Bengals are ahead of the Jets right now. If the Jets want one of those 4 they're going to have to trade up. Giants will be picking 2 - if not someone moves up to the 2 spot... Bengals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Bengals? They can cut Dalton with minimal cap hit this year. With the regime change it seems like a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, bla bla bla said: They can cut Dalton with minimal cap hit this year. With the regime change it seems like a possibility. Then Andy Dalton is another QB that comes into play in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Bengals? Cincinnati BengalsProjected draft pick: No. 8 AJ McCarron could be an Andy Dalton successor, but McCarron also could be an unrestricted free agent. If a new coaching staff wants to make changes in Cincinnati, Dalton could be on the outs, and the Bengals could be looking for other options. _____________________________________________________________________ While they might not take a QB it'll be another team we'll have to jump to assure we get one of the top 4 - point is....It's highly unlikely the Jets get a top 4 without having to trade. Sitting at 10 is simply not an option. plus I want nothing to do with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Josh Allen 7 for 10 108 yards 3 tds so far today.. draft this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, MDL_JET said: Josh Allen 7 for 10 108 yards 3 tds so far today.. draft this beast. Denver's taking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, southtown24th said: Yup. Cleveland and the Jets. Right where we belong, hand in hand...two worst franchises in the NFL. Nope...not even close to being true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Warfish said: Not even remotely true by any objective criteria, but yeah, poor you. 150% valid and true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Then Andy Dalton is another QB that comes into play in the offseason OH CHRIST...just what we need, another retread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Sounds like Darnold is staying in school. No way Rosen gets past the Giants or Browns (twice), so the Jets are realistically looking at Lamar Jackson and potentially Josh Allen. Given their track record with developing QBs, they shouldn’t even try to draft either. The bad news is that pick 10 is no-man’s land now because teams like the Colts, Niners, and possibly the Bengals will peel off pass rush and OL help, leaving the Jets looking at the third best rusher, or third best OT. Also means that we’re pretty much guaranteed to land Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith, which is Peak Jets. Consider that the Redskins would effectively be vacating the QB position if they let Cousins walk, and the Jets are going to act like they signed Aaron Rodgers anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Sounds like Darnold is staying in school. No way Rosen gets past the Giants or Browns (twice), so the Jets are realistically looking at Lamar Jackson and potentially Josh Allen. Given their track record with developing QBs, they shouldn’t even try to draft either. The bad news is that pick 10 is no-man’s land now because teams like the Colts, Niners, and possibly the Bengals will peel off pass rush and OL help, leaving the Jets looking at the third best rusher, or third best OT. Also means that we’re pretty much guaranteed to land Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith, which is Peak Jets. Consider that the Redskins would effectively be vacating the QB position if they let Cousins walk, and the Jets are going to act like they signed Aaron Rodgers anyway. Mayfield measures 5' 11" 3/4 at the combine, Jets pass and draft a corner, Mayfield becomes franchise QB, Jets extend McCown That's how you do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Mayfield measures 5' 11" 3/4 at the combine, Jets pass and draft a corner, Mayfield becomes franchise QB, Jets extend McCown That's how you do it If they had any balls, they’d scream “YOLO” and draft Mayfield. Alas, if they’ve demonstrated one thing at all in their three years here, it’s that they have no balls. Mayfield is going to interview like Johnny Drama, which will offend Bowles’ delicate sensibilities, and they’ll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackman55 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, Larz said: Mayfield measures 5' 11" 3/4 at the combine, Jets pass and draft a corner, Mayfield becomes franchise QB, Jets extend McCown That's how you do it 45 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Sounds like Darnold is staying in school. No way Rosen gets past the Giants or Browns (twice), so the Jets are realistically looking at Lamar Jackson and potentially Josh Allen. Given their track record with developing QBs, they shouldn’t even try to draft either. The bad news is that pick 10 is no-man’s land now because teams like the Colts, Niners, and possibly the Bengals will peel off pass rush and OL help, leaving the Jets looking at the third best rusher, or third best OT. Also means that we’re pretty much guaranteed to land Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith, which is Peak Jets. Consider that the Redskins would effectively be vacating the QB position if they let Cousins walk, and the Jets are going to act like they signed Aaron Rodgers anyway. This is my nightmare scenario, which if Darnold does stay in school, is a very real possibility. Mac wants to trade up for Mayfield but Woody, while reviewing college game tape with Bowles via Skype from London, sees the crotch grab vs Kansas and says no way. We wind up with a corner in the first round and either AJ McCarron or Nick Foles at QB with McCown signed as "backup". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 59 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Sounds like Darnold is staying in school. No way Rosen gets past the Giants or Browns (twice), so the Jets are realistically looking at Lamar Jackson and potentially Josh Allen. Given their track record with developing QBs, they shouldn’t even try to draft either. The bad news is that pick 10 is no-man’s land now because teams like the Colts, Niners, and possibly the Bengals will peel off pass rush and OL help, leaving the Jets looking at the third best rusher, or third best OT. Also means that we’re pretty much guaranteed to land Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith, which is Peak Jets. Consider that the Redskins would effectively be vacating the QB position if they let Cousins walk, and the Jets are going to act like they signed Aaron Rodgers anyway. Has something new come out regarding Darnold's decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mackman55 said: Mayfield measures 5' 11" 3/4 at the combine, Jets pass and draft a corner, Mayfield becomes franchise QB, Jets extend McCown Won't have to wait for Mayfield to be measured at the Combine, they will measure him at the SR bowl and release the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Has something new come out regarding Darnold's decision? yeah, I find it hard to believe Darnold doesn't come out - the number two pick - going to the well respected Giants. It'll be hard to imagine a better situation for him. What's the upside to staying? one draft spot? Downside is tremendous- his stock continues to fall, injury, end up on the other team in NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Has something new come out regarding Darnold's decision? Maybe he took a long look into the mirror and realized, at best, he's the 5th best QB in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, section314 said: Maybe he took a long look into the mirror and realized, at best, he's the 5th best QB in the draft? Even a better reason enter the draft and get paid, next year more teams may realize his bust potential - he will need to have a great season (not average) to improve his draft status - an average year (for a top pick) will hurt his draft status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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