Jetsbb Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I know grasping at straws but maybe he has some insight since he is in NFL circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: I know grasping at straws but maybe he has some insight since he is in NFL circles. No my guess is he sorted by losses, anyone who's watched this Jets team would have to believe Bowles is returning. Whether or not he should is another question but even the constant Bowles haters would likely agree that his will be returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Only 14 HC changes? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: No my guess is he sorted by losses, anyone who's watched this Jets team would have to believe Bowles is returning. Whether or not he should is another question but even the constant Bowles haters would likely agree that his will be returning. Only reason is because Chris Johnson has no spine and wants to be loved by the players. Any Jets fans watching Bowles bumble in game management wants him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 So basically every team not in the playoffs who didn't replace their HC last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Only reason is because Chris Johnson has no spine and wants to be loved by the players. Any Jets fans watching Bowles bumble in game management wants him gone. I'd say based on Woody Johnson's comments about judging this team on development instead of wins/losses. I think most negative fans would agree barring something out of left field Bowles job is safe for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Bowles should have been gone DURING the Denver game. And nothing has changed. Don't care that some losers want him to stay so they can keep their job they don't deserve. Their opinion means NOTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Unfortunately, Bowles still has a card up his sleeve. He will still remain here and next year will suck like this year. Mac will pick defense in first round and then try to win on a flyer from the 3rd round on for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Unfortunately, Bowles still has a card up his sleeve. He will still remain here and next year will suck like this year. Mac will pick defense in first round and then try to win on a flyer from the 3rd round on for a QB. I think Met life's going to be very empty next season. The pitch forks will be out, and the Johnson's will have just given out 3 year extensions just to fire them both next New Year. It makes no sence. Just fire them next Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: I think Met life's going to be very empty next season. The pitch forks will be out, and the Johnson's will have just given out 3 year extensions just to fire them both next New Year. It makes no sence. Just fire them next Monday! That's what i want for Xmas, Brady hurt in the game against us and McBowles fired the next day. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Fantasy Island said: That's what i want for Xmas, Brady hurt in the game against us and McBowles fired the next day. Fingers crossed. Yes. Finished. But the game will be rigged for NE as always. Or maybe they rig it for jets with Boston locking up fake HFA and bumping the Jets to the middle of the draft. Most likely scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Unfortunately, Bowles still has a card up his sleeve. He will still remain here and next year will suck like this year. Mac will pick defense in first round and then try to win FA with Cousins at QB. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Hitman Harris said: Yes. Finished. But the game will be rigged for NE as always. Or maybe they rig it for jets with Boston locking up fake HFA and bumping the Jets to the middle of the draft. Most likely scenario I hear you, but it will take some mighty Rigging to let Petty Win a game, the boy is awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: No my guess is he sorted by losses, anyone who's watched this Jets team would have to believe Bowles is returning. Whether or not he should is another question but even the constant Bowles haters would likely agree that his will be returning. Not true. Bowles is a moron. He has no clue how to run an NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, j4jets said: Not true. Bowles is a moron. He has no clue how to run an NFL team. I guess so was Kyle Shanahan until he got a talented QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Wow that’s a lot. And most are deserving to go How do they not fire Del Rio Del rio, Fox, Fisher are basically the same people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: I think Met life's going to be very empty next season. The pitch forks will be out, and the Johnson's will have just given out 3 year extensions just to fire them both next New Year. It makes no sence. Just fire them next Monday! The Jets hold all of the cards here. MacBowles can work next year without an extension. They can give them one year extensions. Really depends if other teams reach out to Bowles. Could happen. No one is reaching out to Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Possibly the best reason to keep Bowies is because the Jets job is the worst job in the league, tied with the Browns. You’d be stuck with the ninth best coaching candidate, maybe, with the upper tier guys not even taking Maccagnan’s call. A depleted roster filled with low-impact draft picks, and the tenth overall pick in a two-QB draft? Quite the sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Possibly the best reason to keep Bowies is because the Jets job is the worst job in the league, tied with the Browns. You’d be stuck with the ninth best coaching candidate, maybe, with the upper tier guys not even taking Maccagnan’s call. A depleted roster filled with low-impact draft picks, and the tenth overall pick in a two-QB draft? Quite the sell. Hell promoting John Morton to HC would be a major upgrade. These time management issues will come up if they ever get the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Jetsbb said: Only reason is because Chris Johnson has no spine and wants to be loved by the players. Any Jets fans watching Bowles bumble in game management wants him gone. Now we know Chris Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I wonder what would do more for this franchise... - putting all time and resources into landing a QB in an offseason with Cousins, maybe even Garapollo, and as many as three serious QB prospects - yet another third year burn and turn to find the perfect coaches to draw up the perfect plays to create the most perfectest game plans that can be delivered through the most perfectly sequenced playcalls in the history of history thereby creating the perfect foozeball culture ? I feel like there’s a whole lot less hocus pocus and bullsh*t involved in the first one. What they need to do is finding themselves a QB, a pass rusher, and Theo Epsten. Mmmhnmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Now we know Chris Johnson? We know him from his comments preseason setting the bar extremely low and reports of him hanging around trying to be buddies with the players. Star eyed newb who doesn't want to rock the boat until his big bro gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 The fact that we are still discussing Todd Bowles as the HC of this organization is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The fact that we are still discussing Todd Bowles as the HC of this organization is criminal. I know with Bryce Petty as his starting QB we should be talking Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I know with Bryce Petty as his starting QB we should be talking Super Bowl. How about his poor coaching, clock management,quitting,failure to make adjustments,bone-head game decisions.. He's not HC material and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How about his poor coaching, clock management,quitting,failure to make adjustments,bone-head game decisions.. He's not HC material and never will be. Quitting? There is no quit in this team, they play everybody tough. When you don't have a QB, you can't win! Look at the 49ers! Do you think Kyle Shanahan suddenly got smart? No, he now has a legitimate starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, SenorGato said: I wonder what would do more for this franchise... - putting all time and resources into landing a QB in an offseason with Cousins, maybe even Garapollo, and as many as three serious QB prospects - yet another third year burn and turn to find the perfect coaches to draw up the perfect plays to create the most perfectest game plans that can be delivered through the most perfectly sequenced playcalls in the history of history thereby creating the perfect foozeball culture ? I feel like there’s a whole lot less hocus pocus and bullsh*t involved in the first one. What they need to do is finding themselves a QB, a pass rusher, and Theo Epsten. Mmmhnmmm And if they do the first one and find out the real problem is still the 2nd one, they've wasted yet another year. Bring in a new Qb with a new coach and system and let them grow together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, JetsFanatic said: Quitting? There is no quit in this team, they play everybody tough. When you don't have a QB, you can't win! Look at the 49ers! Do you think Kyle Shanahan suddenly got smart? No, he now has a legitimate starting QB. Bowles and Morton both QUIT on this team numerous times throughout the season the play calling and decision making here is something for the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Bowles and Morton both QUIT on this team numerous times throughout the season the play calling and decision making here is something for the books. When did they quit? The only two games they weren't competative were the 2nd half against the Raiders and the Broncos games. Every other game they were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Quitting? There is no quit in this team, they play everybody tough. When you don't have a QB, you can't win! Look at the 49ers! Do you think Kyle Shanahan suddenly got smart? No, he now has a legitimate starting QB. I agree with that , but when you don't play to win how do you expect to win. Even if we find a QB we'll be facing the same BS of trying to win games with TOP and defense,its what Bowles does, its in his DNA just like Rex and Herm and other glorified DC's before him. I hoped Bowles was different, I've given him the benefit of doubt for 2+ seasons , he's convinced me he's just like those others, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: When did they quit? The only two games they weren't competative were the 2nd half against the Raiders and the Broncos games. Every other game they were in. Can't you see that is Bowle's master plan , he knows he can keep games close with his defense. If he had some cajones and opened up the offense they might another game or two but and its a big BUT there would be games where the team would get blown out. Bowles doesn't want that perception associated with him especially as a defensive coach , its self preservation at its finest. I've said it before and I'll say it yet again. In the NFL you can't play timid and you can't coach timid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: I agree with that , but when you don't play to win how do you expect to win. Even if we find a QB we'll be facing the same BS of trying to win games with TOP and defense,its what Bowles does, its in his DNA just like Rex and Herm and other glorified DC's before him. I hoped Bowles was different, I've given him the benefit of doubt for 2+ seasons , he's convinced me he's just like those others, I agree with you. Bowles makes some "in game" decisions that are real head scratchers. I do believe he has gotten the defense to play tough. They did a nice job in NO last week and against Rivers yesterday. I just feel it's hard to fairly judge a HC when he doesn't have a quality starting QB. In the last three years Bowles has had stopgap QBs who've had their moments but are not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Jetsbb said: Only reason is because Chris Johnson has no spine and wants to be loved by the players. Any Jets fans watching Bowles bumble in game management wants him gone. We have no clue at this point what Chris is like, what his style will be. To say he's spineless and wants to be buddies with players is total guesswork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 11 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'd say based on Woody Johnson's comments about judging this team on development instead of wins/losses. I think most negative fans would agree barring something out of left field Bowles job is safe for next season. Oh God I sure hope so. I need my Sundays free to do other things and ignore this pathetic pike of elephant spooge every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, j4jets said: Not true. Bowles is a moron. He has no clue how to run an NFL team. That wasn't the parameters set by the owner for a successful season. Whether or not I agree with you is irrelevant if he did the job the owner set out for him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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