Doggin94it Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Heading into tonight, the Jets could end up picking anywhere from 4th (highly unlikely) through 12th (equally unlikely). If I had to bet, I'd put money on 6th. Here are the possibilities: If the Jets lose to NE: 4th: (a) Houston beats Pittsburgh today, Indy next week + (b) Tampa beats NO week 17 AND the Jets have a better end of season SoS than the Jets + (c) Denver beats KC week 17 + (d) SF wins against LAR OR SF has a better end of season SoS than the Jets 5th: Any 1 of those things does not happen 6th: Any 2 of those things don't happen 7th: any 3 of those things don't happen 8th: None of those things happen If the Jets beat NE: 8th: if (a) the Bears win + (b) SF wins AND (CHI & CAR) combine for one/two more wins [depending on Hou v. Pit outcome] than (CLE & JAX) + (c) CIN beats Baltimore + (d) Oakland beats 1 of the Eagles or Chargers 9th: Any one of those things doesn't happen 10th: Any 2 of those things don't happen 11th: any 3 of those things don't happen 12th: None of those things happen SoS note: as of right now, the teams the 49ers played have 124 wins; Jets played have had 125 wins; and the teams the Bucs have played have 126. SF played both Houston & Philly, and the Bucs played Philly, so the SoS situation heading into week 17 will change depending on what happens tonight. Because all week 17 games are divisional, the only thing that will impact final SoS is the outcome of each team's own game (a loss to the Pats adds 2 victories to the Jets' opponents' year end victory count) and its "+2" games. For the Jets, the +2 teams were Jax & Cleveland. For Tampa, it's AZ & NYG. For SF, it's Car & Chicago. The following SoS rankings are locked in: Bengals will have the worst SoS of all teams that can end the season with 4, 5, or 6 wins; Denver & the Raiders will have the second & third worst SoS of those teams, in some order; Texans will be 4th worst. The Jets CANNOT win a SoS tiebreaker against any of those teams. The Jets, SF, & TB will finish next in some order - their SoS will depend on the remaining games The Bears and Dolphins (in some order) will be next - The Jets CANNOT lose a SoS tiebreaker against either of those teams As I said, if I had to bet, I'd put money on the Jets picking 6th - Hou and TB stay ahead of the Jets, but the Jets lose, Denver wins (KC will be resting) and SF wins or ends the season with a stronger SoS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 And now you know what Jews do on Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Thanks for doing this legwork. Sixth is an interesting spot, because it puts Rosen in play if the Giants and Browns pass on him. It’d make Darnold’s decision to come out incredibly important to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6th puts in a position to get 1 of the top QB's in the draft, my concern is Mike Maccagnan making the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Fully expect this team to AGAIN pick a non-impact defender, tout the player as the BAP, forget that their offense sucks and think they can get away with playing their scared scam. This franchise is like a plane flying full speed into a cliff. They need a QB. If not, I'm outta here. IF Rosen or Mayfield are there and they pass on both, DONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bugg said: Fully expect this team to AGAIN pick a non-impact defender, tout the player as the BAP, forget that their offense sucks and think they can get away with playing their scared scam. This franchise is like a plane flying full speed into a cliff. They need a QB. If not, I'm outta here. IF Rosen or Mayfield are there and they pass on both, DONE. I could never ever root or support another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I could never ever root or support another team. The Adams over Watson decision put me in this spot. It was disgraceful, indefensible on every level, a joke. And you look across the parking lot and seeing our co-tenant embrace The Suck fully while the Jets half ass it(as they do everything), simply don't understand it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I’d like the jets to take at least 2-3 players on the offensive side of the ball (with our 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders) should we keep our draft picks. It’s about time this franchise got with the program and got some impact players. And lineman are fine too. Just do something to help the darn offense already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: The Adams over Watson decision put me in this spot. It was disgraceful, indefensible on every level, a joke. I know but we've been there and done that so many damn times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: The Adams over Watson decision put me in this spot. It was disgraceful, indefensible on every level, a joke. Right now it appears that way but let’s see. Watson could end up like RG III. Not saying I wouldn’t love to have him here (and admittedly I was strongly against taking him last year) but still we don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Right now it appears that way but let’s see. Watson could end up like RG III. Not saying I wouldn’t love to have him here (and admittedly I was strongly against taking him last year) but still we don’t know. Could happen that Watson could be a repeat of RGIII and injuries. Still doesn't excuse the idiotic decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I’d like the jets to take at least 2-3 players on the offensive side of the ball (with our 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders) should we keep our draft picks. It’s about time this franchise got with the program and got some impact players. And lineman are fine too. Just do something to help the darn offense already. Mac has said in the past that he doesn't take OL early in the draft. I think it's wrongheaded but I doubt he changes his methods this draft unless some OL goes into free fall much like the snorkel dude. I think we are set at WR for now so I doubt he goes here unless some premium player free falls. So that leaves QB, RB, and TE. I wouldn't mind QB 1st and either of the other 2nd/3rd. I myself would sooner target OL with both 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Problem is we probably see Hoyer instead of Brady next Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, LIJetsFan said: Mac has said in the past that he doesn't take OL early in the draft. I think it's wrongheaded but I doubt he changes his methods this draft unless some OL goes into free fall much like the snorkel dude. I think we are set at WR for now so I doubt he goes here unless some premium player free falls. So that leaves QB, RB, and TE. I wouldn't mind QB 1st and either of the other 2nd/3rd. I myself would sooner target OL with both 2nd rounders. Then we wonder why the jets have a bottom 3 offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Problem is we probably see Hoyer instead of Brady next Sunday We will still lose. Have you SEEN Bryce Petty play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Problem is we probably see Hoyer instead of Brady next Sunday We aren’t scoring 7 against New England . They could trot Bozo the Clown out and they will win easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: We will still lose. Have you SEEN Bryce Petty play? No. I only watch the Redzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: 4th: (a) Houston beats Pittsburgh today, Indy next week + (b) Tampa beats NO week 17 AND the Jets have a better end of season SoS than the Jets + (c) Denver beats KC week 17 + (d) SF wins against LAR OR SF has a better end of season SoS than the Jets Hou > Pitts? Nope. Tampa > New Orleans? Nope. Denver > KC? Nope. SF beats LAR? Nope. Jets Draft #8 overall. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Mac has said in the past that he doesn't take OL early in the draft. I think it's wrongheaded but I doubt he changes his methods this draft unless some OL goes into free fall much like the snorkel dude. I think we are set at WR for now so I doubt he goes here unless some premium player free falls. So that leaves QB, RB, and TE. I wouldn't mind QB 1st and either of the other 2nd/3rd. I myself would sooner target OL with both 2nd rounders. If we draft RB or TE earlier than Round 4, Macc should be fired on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Warfish said: Hou > Pitts? Nope. Tampa > New Orleans? Nope. Denver > KC? Nope. SF beats LAR? Nope. Jets Draft #8 overall. Book it. KC clinched the division..they don’t need to play starters. Tampa has played hard every game and this is another close division game. SF is on fire and just hung 37 on the #1 D in the league. Rams are great but this is always a close gritty game. Houston is not beating Pitt. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: KC clinched the division..they don’t need to play starters. Tampa has played hard every game and this is another close division game. SF is on fire and just hung 37 on the #1 D in the league. Rams are great but this is always a close gritty game. Houston is not beating Pitt. At all. Keeping the dream alive eh? Just curious, how much are you willing to trade up to get pick #2? Four #1 picks, of five? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Keeping the dream alive eh? Just curious, how much are you willing to trade up to get pick #2? Four #1 picks, of five? Are the things i stated not facts though? And it won’t take 4 or 5 first round picks, period. Our 2017 first, 2017 second, 2018 first and possible one more lower would do it depending where we land. War, you’re saracsim filled questions are annoying as hell lmao. I don’t understand how you don’t understand that it’s possible. You act like I’m reaching here. A lot of good things already went right for us yesterday. Let it break right or let it break wrong..we’ll still be in an alright spot to move up regardless. We have ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Problem is we probably see Hoyer instead of Brady next Sunday Not necessarily....The Pats want to take home field advantage. If Pittsburgh beats Houston (HIGHLY likely), then if Pitt wins and Pats lose next week, Pitts gets home field. They will want to play in Foxborough, since it gives them an even bigger advantage with the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: You act like I’m reaching here. Nooooo, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 If we pick 6 I'm picking a QB with that pick which will probably be Mayfield and I won't be mad. With the 2 picks in the 2nd round I'm going Offensive Line with both picks. I hope they grab that center Price out of Ohio State and the best available G/T with the other 2nd round pick. Top of the 3rd get the best available CB and in the 4th get the best available OLB. I think that's a very good start. With the projected 100 million we will have in cap space we can sign impact players at the CB/OLB AND WR position while filling in and retaining our own in other key positions. 2018 can be very very good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: Nooooo, really? Everything I stated was facts in that previous post you quoted. Care to explain how I reached? “I’m curious”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Nothing else matters until we get a decent QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: 6th puts in a position to get 1 of the top QB's in the draft, my concern is Mike Maccagnan making the pick. we're gonna have to " trade-up " to get the QB we NEED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I just want the Jets to take a QB. I don't watch a lot of college football but, from what I've read/heard, I'd prefer Darnold because he's got the size to survive hits. But Macc is the GM so it's his call. If he picks the wrong one then he's on the hook. Conversely, if he picks the right one then he gets all the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 52 minutes ago, Warfish said: Keeping the dream alive eh? Just curious, how much are you willing to trade up to get pick #2? Four #1 picks, of five? I'm not sure why you'd want to. Rosen has concussion issues already and i wouldn't trade up for him. Maybe darnold, but i think he is definitely overhyped and isn't the qb (yet) everyone projected he would be this season. I think there are several quality qbs in this draft but not one who is worth giving up the farm for. The jets may actually be better off where they draft, but this of course all assumes that the gm is considering a qb in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I just want the Jets to take a QB. I don't watch a lot of college football but, from what I've read/heard, I'd prefer Darnold because he's got the size to survive hits. But Macc is the GM so it's his call. If he picks the wrong one then he's on the hook. Conversely, if he picks the right one then he gets all the credit. Assuming Darnold and Rosen gone by the time we pick............in no specific order but I'm all in on Baker Mayfield,Josh Allen,Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph and you name them opening day starter in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Matt Miller ✔@nfldraftscout Updated draft order: 1 Browns 2 Giants 3 Colts 4 Buccaneers 5 Browns (f/Texans) 6 Broncos 7 49ers 8 Jets 9 Bears 10 Bengals 11 Dolphins 12 Raiders 13 Cardinals 14 Packers 15 Redskins 16 Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Bugg said: Fully expect this team to AGAIN pick a non-impact defender, tout the player as the BAP, forget that their offense sucks and think they can get away with playing their scared scam. This franchise is like a plane flying full speed into a cliff. They need a QB. If not, I'm outta here. IF Rosen or Mayfield are there and they pass on both, DONE. I have no faith that this happens. However, if they've watched this season and don't believe they need to be highly vigilant in getting a starting QB, well then I'm with you man. If Rosen or Mayfield are there and they pass, I'm done too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just take a QB!! Really any TWO of them this year. The fact that they left the bat on the shoulder last yr is borderline unforgivable. I really like Benkert and Flowers as later round fliers to go along with Mayfield (hopefully). Allen has interesting potential too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I am pretty confident that either 4-12 McSuck will be picking defense again. Because neither he nor our moron of a HC know how to draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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