Dcronin Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Or weigh in with what you think. I thought his tape was incredible. He throws people open. Almost all of his tape is darts to covered guys, right where the ball should be. So tired of college tape that looks like Pop Warner, with throws to WRs 10-15 yards away from any coverage. He's fiery and competitive. Is he too Manziel-ish? Looks great to me. Anyway, welcome to the Jets, Case Keenum! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dcronin said: Or weigh in with what you think. I thought his tape was incredible. He throws people open. Almost all of his tape is darts to covered guys, right where the ball should be. So tired of college tape that looks like Pop Warner, with throws to WRs 10-15 yards away from any coverage. He's fiery and competitive. Is he too Manziel-ish? Looks great to me. Anyway, welcome to the Jets, Case Keenum! DC I've been all in on Mayfield for a while. Keenum or Bridgewater could be options? - I think the Vikes I dump Mr Injury Sam Bradford, and re-sign Keenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, Dcronin said: Or weigh in with what you think. I thought his tape was incredible. He throws people open. Almost all of his tape is darts to covered guys, right where the ball should be. So tired of college tape that looks like Pop Warner, with throws to WRs 10-15 yards away from any coverage. He's fiery and competitive. Is he too Manziel-ish? Looks great to me. Anyway, welcome to the Jets, Case Keenum! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Way better than Manziel in my opinion who just lobbed the ball up in the air for Mike Evans to go get. Mayfield does look terrific and his arm is very underrated and as you say he throws people open a lot. I still think he’s a littlle too harum-scarum back there in the pocket and the saying ‘plays with his hair on fire’ was written for him which I’m not sure will work in the NFL but he’s an exciting playmaker. It’s also worth noting that the Oklahoma offense has produced NFL calibre starters in the recent past so the questions about whether he can translate to the pro game shouldn’t be an issue as much as they might be for Mason Rudolph and Luke Falk. I’m no expert but it appears they run an offense at Oklahoma that has more pro-style routes and deep, long developing plays thansay the offense Bryce Petty ran at Baylor. I wouldn’t be too upset with Mayfield if we got him without having to give up additional picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dcronin said: Or weigh in with what you think. I thought his tape was incredible. He throws people open. Almost all of his tape is darts to covered guys, right where the ball should be. So tired of college tape that looks like Pop Warner, with throws to WRs 10-15 yards away from any coverage. He's fiery and competitive. Is he too Manziel-ish? Looks great to me. Anyway, welcome to the Jets, Case Keenum! DC BTW check out the tape on Lamar Jackson. Ignore all the running plays and just watch how beautifully the guy zips the ball around to his receivers. Seriously think LJ is underrated at this point. The problem with him is that he appears to be a running QB that can pass rather than a proper pocket QB who will take off when required( I see Baker Mayfield as the latter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dcronin said: Or weigh in with what you think. I thought his tape was incredible. He throws people open. Almost all of his tape is darts to covered guys, right where the ball should be. So tired of college tape that looks like Pop Warner, with throws to WRs 10-15 yards away from any coverage. He's fiery and competitive. Is he too Manziel-ish? Looks great to me. Anyway, welcome to the Jets, Case Keenum! DC You must be watching the wrong tape, I’d say 70% of his completions are to guys who are open by 10-15 yards, maybe rewatch the tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Lupz27 said: You must be watching the wrong tape, I’d say 70% of his completions are to guys who are open by 10-15 yards, maybe rewatch the tapes. I have seen a little of both. I am most impressed by his head constantly moving to find an open receiver. Yes, many times he hits the first read. But when the primary is covered, he scans the field before deciding to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Mayfield thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Damn!! I really wanted to like Mayfield too, but with your track record of picking QBs, now I’m not so sure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I'm at the point where I think I want this kid over everyone. To me, he's most likely to have a successful NFL career. After all, we're not drafting someone's height or arm strength. You have to watch them play and ask yourself... What QB gives you the best chance to win a Super Bowls? To me it's Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Mayfield, Allen, Jackson, my mom, it doesn't matter, as long as the Jets select whoever they feel is the best available QB whenever they pick in the 1st round, all will be right with the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, NoBowles said: Damn!! I really wanted to like Mayfield too, but with your track record of picking QBs, now I’m not so sure ? My apologize I have that much influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Baker Mayfield stands in the shotgun and claps his hands. They snap him the ball and he runs around looking for one of his stud skill players. It won't be llke that in the nfl. He is talented though. I wouldn' bet against him. But for the Jets, I would not draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, TJ said: Baker Mayfield stands in the shotgun and claps his hands. They snap him the ball and he runs around looking for one of his stud skill players. It won't be llke that in the nfl. He is talented though. I wouldn' bet against him. But for the Jets, I would not draft him. Yeah...that’s not all he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: My apologize I have that much influence. You did have that much influence. You then proceeded to squander it.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Patriot Killa said: You did have that much influence. You then proceeded to squander it.? Never go with the flow....BE the flow. I cant squander what's inherently in me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I am all in. Brings us the next Johnny Football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Chiefs Broncos here in the final week. We need to be PULLING HARD for the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, southtown24th said: Chiefs Broncos here in the final week. We need to be PULLING HARD for the Broncos. Chiefs clinch a playoff birth and the division. They should be sitting starters. its Tampa Bay that concerns me. They need to beat the Saints. They played the Falcons and Panthers the last two week and should of won against Carolina..so they aren’t slouches. Maybe things can break right. We need one of these top guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: My apologize I have that much influence. Dude, you went in HARD on Geno and Glennon.... There is a saying this reminds me of, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times, shame on both of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Never go with the flow....BE the flow. I cant squander what's inherently in me. Some flows lead to gold, some flows lead to sewers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Dude, you went in HARD on Geno and Glennon.... There is a saying this reminds me of, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times, shame on both of us My influence...at work. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: Some flows lead to gold, some flows lead to sewers...... Establish flow and stop being a follower then. Just remember, so flows lead to gold so flows lead to sewers. Both of those beats being a follower though. Followers only use their fingers to point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Mayfield does a lot more than just clap his hands and throw to open guys. I have watched every Oklahoma game this season since they beat OSU in the horseshoe. I have seen Mayfield thread the needle many times and bring his team back from deficits time and again. The guy has a non-stop motor and can flat out play. He is perfect for this team and this city. There is no doubt in my mind he can play in NY and succeed. He has all the tools and the attitude to play winning football. All he needs is the right team at the right time. The Jets need them some Baker Mayfield and if there come pick time he should be it. I doubt Macchole takes him though after all he is Macchole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Establish flow and stop being a follower then. Just remember, so flows lead to gold so flows lead to sewers. Both of those beats being a follower though. Followers only use their fingers to point. Dude, I have been banned from this site 918 times, or maybe its 919, if I was simply a follower, I never would have been banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Dude, I have been banned from this site 918 times, or maybe its 919, if I was simply a follower, I never would have been banned Yet I've never been banned once. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Yet I've never been banned once. lol. Congrats, I guess no other poster ever told you your wife was blowing him while you were at work, that is a good way to get banned round heeeaaahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Mayfield does a lot more than just clap his hands and throw to open guys. I have watched every Oklahoma game this season since they beat OSU in the horseshoe. I have seen Mayfield thread the needle many times and bring his team back from deficits time and again. The guy has a non-stop motor and can flat out play. He is perfect for this team and this city. There is no doubt in my mind he can play in NY and succeed. He has all the tools and the attitude to play winning football. All he needs is the right team at the right time. The Jets need them some Baker Mayfield and if there come pick time he should be it. I doubt Macchole takes him though after all he is Macchole. Guys here don’t watch tape we’ll enough if at all, because the narrative of Mayfield has already swayed their opinions in a negitive light. Does Mayfield run a spread? Sure..to an extent. He als does pro QB things in that same system. He also shows pro traits through that very system. He also has a lot of accuracy and good decision making ability. What was the main knock on most of our QB’s drafted? They don’t have accuracy. You can barely improve a QB’s accuracy once he gets in the NFL. The windows are tighter. Baker won’t have this issue. That’s also why I wonder why people knock his mechanics when he throws 70 or over 3 years in a row. And it’s not because of easy one reads because OK is a mixed bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, NoBowles said: Congrats, I guess no other poster ever told you your wife was blowing him while you were at work, that is a good way to get banned round heeeaaahhh Words on a forum dont control me like that. Im flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Yeah...that’s not all he does. I never said thats all he does. I've watched a lot of his games. He' a great college qb. From what I've seen, he's pretty accurate on long throws. He might succeed in the right system, but the NFL will be a shock for him. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Any word on whether the Chiefs are going to be resting their starters on Sunday? Going to be key for the Broncos to pick after us if we are thinking of pulling the trigger on a QB in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Congrats, I guess no other poster ever told you your wife was blowing him while you were at work, that is a good way to get banned round heeeaaahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Like most fans, I'm on board with Mayfield or Lamar. But I think that has to do with our past experience of drafting big, strong armed & inaccurate QB's without a successful track record in college (Hackenberg and Petty to a lesser extent). Mayfield seems like the opposite (shorter, accurate and successful in college). Don't mind giving one of these guys a shot (just for the excitement factor). I just hope we don't trade up for them. Too many holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Congrats, I guess no other poster ever told you your wife was blowing him while you were at work, that is a good way to get banned round heeeaaahhh Not by me when I was with my ex wife. Anything to keep her from talking was cool with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Any word on whether the Chiefs are going to be resting their starters on Sunday? Going to be key for the Broncos to pick after us if we are thinking of pulling the trigger on a QB in round 1. Can’t find anything now. Hoping to god that they do. They should. They are locked in. Dunno if they are fighting for home field advantage? Really not sure. Might waltz over to the KC Chiefs forum and see what I can find out by skimming thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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