k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 the question is based on the fact that they tried to trade a second rounder to the Bengals for AJ Maccaron and failed...you know you are going to be picking at the top of the draft...you have Kizer who was a second round pick last year...am i reading too much into it? mostly i am wondering if the QB's this year arent ranked as high by the NFL teams as they are by fans and media? Allen was terrible most of the year vs very so-so competition, Darnold was shaky and may go back to school, Rosen has injury and love of the game concerns, Mayfield is short and feet in the pocket issues, and Jackson may end up being a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Think they like both of them but probably aren’t fond of Rosen after those comments. My guess is Dorsey really is going to take this opportunity to pick his guy and it will be Darnold if he comes out. If he doesn’t come out..man..that really shakes sh*t up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Think they like both of them but probably aren’t fond of Rosen after those comments. My guess is Dorsey really is going to take this opportunity to pick his guy and it will be Darnold if he comes out. If he doesn’t come out..man..that really shakes sh*t up. is Darnold a cant miss prospect though? ive watched a handful of USC games and if he goes number 1 or 2 it would be based on his NFL traits...not his production. He has been better late in the year, but questionable otherwise for a top 10 pick. Something tells me people will be more eager to trade out and go FA for a QB...Bridgewater, Cousins, Keenum, Brisett, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, k-met57 said: is Darnold a cant miss prospect though? ive watched a handful of USC games and if he goes number 1 or 2 it would be based on his NFL traits...not his production. He has been better late in the year, but questionable otherwise for a top 10 pick. Something tells me people will be more eager to trade out and go FA for a QB...Bridgewater, Cousins, Keenum, Brisett, etc... I think if you are the Browns, you jump on the best QB available in the draft regardless. Correct though, Case Keenum, Cousins, Brisett and maybe even players like Tyrod or Foles makes things interesting because they are all playing solid. Case Keenum is really lighting things up in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Another interesting twist would be if they like Mayfield or Jackson more than Darnold. They could conceivably pass on a QB with the #1 pick, grab the best player on their board, or even trade it, and scoop Mayfield up at #4. If they prefer Mayfield to Darnold or Rosen, it would be compelling to see what they could get for the #1 pick, knowing they will still likely get their guy (or one of the other two). So what would the Jets offer to move up to #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, nycdan said: Another interesting twist would be if they like Mayfield or Jackson more than Darnold. They could conceivably pass on a QB with the #1 pick, grab the best player on their board, or even trade it, and scoop Mayfield up at #4. If they prefer Mayfield to Darnold or Rosen, it would be compelling to see what they could get for the #1 pick, knowing they will still likely get their guy (or one of the other two). So what would the Jets offer to move up to #1? i could be wrong but i dont see a way where mayfield goes 4. Can you name the last 6 foot QB who went top 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 looked...the only QB drafted top 5 at even 6'1 or shorter was michael vick...and thats obviously not a comp. so this would be the first time maybe in my 37 years if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, nycdan said: Another interesting twist would be if they like Mayfield or Jackson more than Darnold. They could conceivably pass on a QB with the #1 pick, grab the best player on their board, or even trade it, and scoop Mayfield up at #4. If they prefer Mayfield to Darnold or Rosen, it would be compelling to see what they could get for the #1 pick, knowing they will still likely get their guy (or one of the other two). So what would the Jets offer to move up to #1? Literally anything if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, k-met57 said: the question is based on the fact that they tried to trade a second rounder to the Bengals for AJ Maccaron and failed...you know you are going to be picking at the top of the draft...you have Kizer who was a second round pick last year...am i reading too much into it? mostly i am wondering if the QB's this year arent ranked as high by the NFL teams as they are by fans and media? Allen was terrible most of the year vs very so-so competition, Darnold was shaky and may go back to school, Rosen has injury and love of the game concerns, Mayfield is short and feet in the pocket issues, and Jackson may end up being a WR. Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. basically sounds like Cutler 2.0 in that article minus the rocket arm and maybe a bit more IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, JiF said: Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. Good, we’ll take em’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, k-met57 said: basically sounds like Cutler 2.0 in that article minus the rocket arm and maybe a bit more IQ. I don't remember Cutler having all this baggage coming out. His sh*t head attitude more so started in the NFL. Could be wrong but I don't recall him having questionable leadership skills/off field concerns...in addition to the injury history of Rosen. 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Good, we’ll take em’ Who, Rosen? It would be a match made in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, k-met57 said: the question is based on the fact that they tried to trade a second rounder to the Bengals for AJ Maccaron and failed...you know you are going to be picking at the top of the draft...you have Kizer who was a second round pick last year...am i reading too much into it? mostly i am wondering if the QB's this year arent ranked as high by the NFL teams as they are by fans and media? Allen was terrible most of the year vs very so-so competition, Darnold was shaky and may go back to school, Rosen has injury and love of the game concerns, Mayfield is short and feet in the pocket issues, and Jackson may end up being a WR. The guys that orchestrated and screwed up the Maccaron trade are gone. So to assume anything from that is useless at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: The guys that orchestrated and screwed up the Maccaron trade are gone. So to assume anything from that is useless at this point. well...the HC is still there...and he is the QB Guru who you would think was driving the bus...but a good point non the less, thinking may have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, JiF said: Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. I would take Rosen in a heartbeat but that is because we are sitting in the 6-8 range. If given the choice between Darnold and Rosen, my position has always been Darnold. I hate seeing Rosen sitting out a bowl game while his teammates get crushed and I hate seeing Rosen say he wouldn't play for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, JiF said: Who, Rosen? It would be a match made in heaven. Lol I’m so serious too. I’d take him. Plenty of champions are douchebags. But the guy is a natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: I would take Rosen in a heartbeat but that is because we are sitting in the 6-8 range. If given the choice between Darnold and Rosen, my position has always been Darnold. I hate seeing Rosen sitting out a bowl game while his teammates get crushed and I hate seeing Rosen say he wouldn't play for the Browns. He wanted to play. He has a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: He wanted to play. He has a concussion. i mean that in itself is a red flag...he is what 20? without any NFL hits on him? UCLA star QB Josh Rosen will sit out the Bruins' Cactus Bowl game against Kansas State Tuesday under doctor's orders, multiple sources have told SI Saturday afternoon. According to a UCLA source, Rosen wanted to play but the medical staff doesn’t want him to play in this game because they didn’t want him to risk having another concussion so close to the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, Patriot Killa said: He wanted to play. He has a concussion. Yeah, I am not buying that as the reason. He had the concussion about a month ago. They can linger, but something tells me he'd be playing if he wanted to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i mean that in itself is a red flag...he is what 20? without any NFL hits on him? UCLA star QB Josh Rosen will sit out the Bruins' Cactus Bowl game against Kansas State Tuesday under doctor's orders, multiple sources have told SI Saturday afternoon. According to a UCLA source, Rosen wanted to play but the medical staff doesn’t want him to play in this game because they didn’t want him to risk having another concussion so close to the last one. 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yeah, I am not buying that as the reason. He had the concussion about a month ago. They can linger, but something tells me he'd be playing if he wanted to play. I mean Kmart just posted the article. You don’t have to buy it if you don’t want to I guess... but I doubt the doctor would let himself be quoted saying something that he really didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, JiF said: Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. Has any Rosen stuff come out this season in regards to him being a giant douche? I feel like he just speaks the truth of what most people think but don't come out and say it. And when someone does say it, like he has, it causes a reaction. What's out there that says he doesn't care about football or can't lead a team? I can't really find much on teammates speaking out on him or anything. I think it'd be stupid to pass on him. If you're worried about the injury side of things with him, I can see that but I think the attitude stuff...eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i mean that in itself is a red flag...he is what 20? without any NFL hits on him? I have said the same thing but I won’t just say his is injury prone until I see it happen like it did to RG3. He’s a pocket passer. We’ll see how it goes. I understand the concern though. It concerns me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, Patriot Killa said: I mean Kmart just posted the article. You don’t have to buy it if you don’t want to I guess... but I doubt the doctor would let himself be quoted saying something that he really didn’t. i buy the reason i just think its insane that the guy has concussion precautions in college...before going to the NFL (probably to a team with a bad OL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I would take Rosen in a heartbeat but that is because we are sitting in the 6-8 range. If given the choice between Darnold and Rosen, my position has always been Darnold. I hate seeing Rosen sitting out a bowl game while his teammates get crushed and I hate seeing Rosen say he wouldn't play for the Browns. I like Rosen's game better but I might be inclined to take Darnold too because of the attitude. 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Lol I’m so serious too. I’d take him. Plenty of champions are douchebags. But the guy is a natural. Don't get me wrong, if Rosen is there you take him but just know he could be a Ryan Leaf type dbag. Sure, lots of QB's are dbags but most of them like Football and you just don't know that to be true about Rosen. I'll say this, get yer popcorn ready if the Jets do somehow land Rosen because the implosion would be grade A entertainment. Ofcourse it would be more fun for to him just be a stud but at least there is a silver lining if he does implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, JiF said: I like Rosen's game better but I might be inclined to take Darnold too because of the attitude. Don't get me wrong, if Rosen is there you take him but just know he could be a Ryan Leaf type dbag. Sure, lots of QB's are dbags but most of them like Football and you just don't know that to be true about Rosen. I'll say this, get yer popcorn ready if the Jets do somehow land Rosen because the implosion would be grade A entertainment. Ofcourse it would be more fun for to him just be a stud but at least there is a silver lining if he does implode. my perception of Rosen is actually very different then Ryan Leaf. Leaf was a bad kid with anger issues and probably a bit on the trashy side. Rosen strikes me as a soap box millenial who thinks he knows the world at 20 and may not live, sleep and breathe football. I am just not sure i want a guy who is going to be outspoken on things like social issues or league policy stuff at QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, k-met57 said: my perception of Rosen is actually very different then Ryan Leaf. Leaf was a bad kid with anger issues and probably a bit on the trashy side. Rosen strikes me as a soap box millenial who thinks he knows the world at 20 and may not live, sleep and breathe football. I am just not sure i want a guy who is going to be outspoken on things like social issues or league policy stuff at QB... Personally, I haven't seen anything wrong with his attitude whatsoever. I haven't heard it from coaches or teammates either. Just the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Has any Rosen stuff come out this season in regards to him being a giant douche? I feel like he just speaks the truth of what most people think but don't come out and say it. And when someone does say it, like he has, it causes a reaction. What's out there that says he doesn't care about football or can't lead a team? I can't really find much on teammates speaking out on him or anything. I think it'd be stupid to pass on him. If you're worried about the injury side of things with him, I can see that but I think the attitude stuff...eh. There are a lot of articles you can find about him and the concerns. He comes from ridiculous money and has a huge sense of entitlement. Hence his most recent comments about not wanting to be drafted by Cleveland and the NCAA, etc. He's a Cali boy who thinks he knows it all and has mommy and daddy to support him every step of the way. I think the off field stuff can be chalked up to immaturity; hot tub in dorm room, rearranging his neighbors lawn to sex positions, his shots at the NCAA, calling out Alabama, a bunch of inappropriate social media stuff that he had to pull down and apologize to the university, being seen walking around with a very colorful political hat cruising around swanky golf clubs on mommy and daddy's money, etc. There are concerns he's uncoachable because he thinks he's smarter/better than everyone else and pushes back on everything. This is an interesting read if you're interested. There are rumors he rubs coaches and players the wrong way ala Connor Cook. https://nflspinzone.com/2017/06/30/2018-nfl-draft-josh-rosen-smear-campaign/ Since the article and the start of the season, some players and Mora have come to his defense but I think where there is smoke there is fire. I know at some point the rumor was he didn't like Football and really wants to be more of a social activist. Which would be beautiful in todays' NFL climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, k-met57 said: my perception of Rosen is actually very different then Ryan Leaf. Leaf was a bad kid with anger issues and probably a bit on the trashy side. Rosen strikes me as a soap box millenial who thinks he knows the world at 20 and may not live, sleep and breathe football. I am just not sure i want a guy who is going to be outspoken on things like social issues or league policy stuff at QB... I think this is probably very accurate. Maybe Leaf was a bad example. Maybe more Jeff George? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, JiF said: There are a lot of articles you can find about him and the concerns. He comes from ridiculous money and has a huge sense of entitlement. Hence his most recent comments about not wanting to be drafted by Cleveland and the NCAA, etc. He's a Cali boy who thinks he knows it all and has mommy and daddy to support him every step of the way. I think the off field stuff can be chalked up to immaturity; hot tub in dorm room, rearranging his neighbors lawn to sex positions, his shots at the NCAA, calling out Alabama, a bunch of inappropriate social media stuff that he had to pull down and apologize to the university, being seen walking around with a very colorful political hat cruising around swanky golf clubs on mommy and daddy's money, etc. There are concerns he's uncoachable because he thinks he's smarter/better than everyone else and pushes back on everything. This is an interesting read if you're interested. There are rumors he rubs coaches and players the wrong way ala Connor Cook. https://nflspinzone.com/2017/06/30/2018-nfl-draft-josh-rosen-smear-campaign/ Since the article and the start of the season, some players and Mora have come to his defense but I think where there is smoke there is fire. I know at some point the rumor was he didn't like Football and really wants to be more of a social activist. Which would be beautiful in todays' NFL climate. Then I read things like this... Rosen's coach, offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch, read things about Rosen that turned out to be less than accurate. “I’ve learned that he’s extremely hard working,” the well-traveled 40-year-old assistant said. “That he is extremely diligent. That the game is extremely important to him. That his talent level, while special, also has a lot to do with how much he works at it. … I’ve also learned that he can be coached really hard.” That’s the Rosen the Bruins know. The one who stays after practice to throw extra routes to any receiver who asks. The one who led every player-run practice this summer, 25 in all. The one who buys his offensive linemen dinner every week and orders them personalized gold necklaces with their last names and jersey numbers. In fact, his teammates defended him after less than flattering articles in various publications. “I don’t know how people can jump to that conclusion; we all love Josh,” center Scott Quessenberry said. “He comes out every day and he competes hard.” “A lot of people don’t have that voice but a lot of us are thinking the things he says,” said safety Jaleel Wadood, who also played with Rosen at St. John Bosco. “Some of us don’t say it because they don’t have that platform like he does.” I'm sure he has some growing up to do once he gets to the NFL. Feel like he'd get more attention for what he says at a press conference then any problems he'd cause in the locker room. But I guess that can go hand in hand depending on the topic. Either way, i'd gladly take either one as the Jets QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: i could be wrong but i dont see a way where mayfield goes 4. Can you name the last 6 foot QB who went top 5? Shouldn't Russell Wilson have ended that line of thought by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Then I read things like this... Rosen's coach, offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch, read things about Rosen that turned out to be less than accurate. “I’ve learned that he’s extremely hard working,” the well-traveled 40-year-old assistant said. “That he is extremely diligent. That the game is extremely important to him. That his talent level, while special, also has a lot to do with how much he works at it. … I’ve also learned that he can be coached really hard.” That’s the Rosen the Bruins know. The one who stays after practice to throw extra routes to any receiver who asks. The one who led every player-run practice this summer, 25 in all. The one who buys his offensive linemen dinner every week and orders them personalized gold necklaces with their last names and jersey numbers. In fact, his teammates defended him after less than flattering articles in various publications. “I don’t know how people can jump to that conclusion; we all love Josh,” center Scott Quessenberry said. “He comes out every day and he competes hard.” “A lot of people don’t have that voice but a lot of us are thinking the things he says,” said safety Jaleel Wadood, who also played with Rosen at St. John Bosco. “Some of us don’t say it because they don’t have that platform like he does.” I'm sure he has some growing up to do once he gets to the NFL. Feel like he'd get more attention for what he says at a press conference then any problems he'd cause in the locker room. But I guess that can go hand in hand depending on the topic. Either way, i'd gladly take either one as the Jets QB! 100% you take him if he falls. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying any of this is valid or a deterrent but it's out there and typically where there is smoke there is fire and he surely comes off like a millennial dbag. I'm sure you could find articles of players loving Ryan Leaf, Jeff George or Johnny Football. And maybe some if is false and everyone is coming to his rescue or maybe Josh heard some of this and got his act together this year, who knows really? All I know is, I think it's clear he's a very opinionated/entitled kid with maturity issues. You'd just have to vet him out and interview the sh*t out of him if you're considering him with your 1st pick. The more I talk about it, it's kind of like Jameis Winston minus the rape allegations and stealing (because he has daddy's credit card ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: Dorsey is on record saying "stay away" from Josh Rosen probably because he a gigantic millennial dbag who cant lead an NFL team and couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Football. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/john-dorsey-reportedly-said-he-would-‘stay-away’-from-josh-rosen/ar-BBHpCEw?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That said, Kizer certainly isn't holding them back from Darnold if he declares or Jackson/Mayfield for that matter if they like the prospect. In general, this QB class if officially the most over hyped class in the history of draft. It's a 2 QB draft with a bunch of huge question mark prospects and I'm not even sure the 2 are that good. Rosen being a sh*t head though the most polished and Darnold having questionable mechanics, decision making, arm strength, athleticism, etc. If this is the choice, pretty easy decision,no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Dorsey loves Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Take it for what it is worth. Seems strange to have these decisions done now before fully evaluating all prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Dinamite said: Take it for what it is worth. Seems strange to have these decisions done now before fully evaluating all prospects. That would be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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