Jet_Engine1 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Fitz-Fitz-Mccown-A.Smith Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Jets can explore veteran QB market for solution, perhaps Alex Smith Oct 7, 2017 Rich Cimini AKA T0mShane ESPN Staff Writer Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment There's no shortage of storylines when it comes to the long-term situation at quarterback, which brings us to our New York Jets question of the week: @RichCimini: No matter which avenue they choose, it will cost them a lot. We're talking about draft picks or big money -- or both if they trade for a veteran, which I think is a realistic scenario. Let's take a closer look at the options: Trading up: Five or six wins would put the Jets (2-2) somewhere in the 5-10 range in the draft, which would require a mortgage-the-future type of investment to get to No. 1. They'd probably have to give up two first-rounders (2018 and 2019), along with one or both of their second-round picks in 2018. It's an odd dynamic, but every win this season costs them down the road. Obviously, it would take a strong conviction about one of the 2018 class of college quarterbacks to make this kind of move. Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen aren't having sensational years, but a lot could change over the next few months. Free agency: For a change, the pool of quarterbacks is impressive -- Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees and Jimmy Garoppolo are among the biggest names. Of course, the landscape will look a lot different if Cousins and Garoppolo get tagged or re-sign with their current teams. Brees has a clause in his contract that prohibits the New Orleans Saints from using the franchise tag on him. He's still playing at a very high level, but he'll be 39 next season. The Jets tried that a decade ago with Brett Favre, and it didn't work. Trade: This makes the most sense to me, and the player I'm watching is Alex Smith of the Kansas City Chiefs. With rookie Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings, Smith could be a goner in 2018. Schematically, he'd be an ideal fit in John Morton's short-passing attack. Speaking of Morton, the Jets' offensive coordinator was on the San Francisco 49ers' staff for two of Smith's eight years on the team, so there's a connection. Smith will be 34 next season, meaning he should have a few good years left. Now come the two hard parts: compensation and finances. The Jets would have to surrender at least one of their second-round picks, and they'd want to sign Smith to a long-term extension because he'll be a free agent in 2019. These aren't insignificant hurdles. There's also the obvious question: Would the Chiefs really send Smith packing if he continues to have an MVP-caliber season? Tough call. It would be hard to say goodbye if Smith leads them to the Super Bowl. What we do know is that he has a $20.6 million cap charge in 2018, and they can recoup $17 million by dealing him. As I said, the Jets will have multiple options after the season if they don't land the first or second pick, but they'll have to pay -- big time. Winning never has been so costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 A 2nd round pick for A. Smith?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 If Patrick Mahomes plays well this weekend Alex Smith is a goner in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Giving anything for Smith is a hilarious joke. I wouldn't trade Rontez Miles for that Noodle Armed Bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 He would instantly be the franchises best QB of all time, and bitches here would hate on him Only the sojf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Now we're agreeing with Cimini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Smith is kind of balling this year honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afjetsfan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 if nothing else it would provide stability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Now we're agreeing with Cimini? Also known as @T0mShane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, JiF said: Smith is kind of balling this year honestly. Ya So was josh McCown working with much less lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He suggests trading for Alex Smith??? It's maybe the worst possible move so Bowles probably will love it. And if all we have to give up is 2 1s and 1 f our seconds for pick #1? Do it NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Smith would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 F that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Not gonna happen. Can't throw in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Alex Smith is possible, like mccown, Bridgewater, keenum if we go with a kid like Allen that needs a year to develop. Not sure why you guys lose your sh!t over bringing in a vet to go along with a rookie. Not all rookies are ready to go from day 1, especially when you're not taking one at 1/2. You can't go into the draft without a guy like mccown/Smith etc under contract or you completely tip your hand plus you end up totally screwed if you don't end up with a QB ready to start. None of those guys are demanding big money (outside of cousins). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I would go for either of the qbs the vikings release before smith we have the money and then draft the best available qb sign some o-linemen. Save the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 It’s a possibility but a second is too much for a short term fix. He is a big upgrade on what we have and a good fit but nothing that will offer up hope of a Superbowl challenge. I’d rather we make a serious push in the draft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Don’t tell me what to do you prepare yourself for Alex Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 48 minutes ago, JiF said: Smith is kind of balling this year honestly. The biggest knock on Smith was that he was kind of a pu$$y when it came to throwing downfield, which prevented the Chiefs from being a true contender. He operated as if the worst thing he could ever do was throw a pick, even though some of the best QB's throw a sizable number of picks; after all, a 3 TD, 3 INT day is far better than a 1 TD, 0 INT day. You have to be willing to take some calculated risks if you're going to score points against playoff defenses, and Smith seemed unwilling to take ANY risks whatsoever. Not this year. He's averaging 8.0 yards per attempt (8.6 adjusted) and 11.9 yards per completion; both career highs. And he's not just flinging it up there, he's still got his usual strong TD:INT ration (26:5). He's making crisp throws downfield, and if it's not there, he can just dump it off. Granted, he's got Tyreke Hill, Travis Kelce, and Kareem Hunt, all having top 5 seasons at their positions, and an offensive line who started and finished the year beasting it. And of course, he has Andy Reid, a great offensive mind in this league who also knows when to delegate when needed. Bring Alex Smith in here and that more aggressive version of Alex Smith goes away, because he can't depend on the perfect set of circumstances he's rolling with playing in KC's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 smith is signed for 20.6M with 3M in dead cap for 2018. from what i can tell, he's not the reason why the chiefs had that losing streak nor was he the problem in the jet game. in fact he does throw a nice accurate long ball. i think i would compare his throwing ability to more like chaddy but with more mobility. he'd be able to play 3-4 more seasons and if they traded for him, they could also draft another qb in the second round or even use their 1st round pick. the bad news is kc might ask for a second rounder. the bottom line is, imo, this makes some good logical sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, pointman said: Giving anything for Smith is a hilarious joke. I wouldn't trade Rontez Miles for that Noodle Armed Bum. yes you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 i'll take Alex Smith and trade back in 1st for a QB. better than mccown for another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Alex Smith would be the exact type of QB Bowles would love. He's not gonna turn the ball over and he's going to efficiently run the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Alex Smith carved up the Pats for 4 tds with passes down field to Hill & Hunt. I’d gladly throw a 2nd round at them with a 4 yr deal if we were SERIOUS about drafting AND DEVELOPING a qb this year OR next. .....the problem is, who picks the QB we draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: If Patrick Mahomes plays well this weekend Alex Smith is a goner in KC. Hot take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 With Bowles and Mac knowing they have to produce a playoff season before reverting back to sh*t they will pursue the aging veteran FA QB such as Tyrod Taylor, Alex Smith vs the young promising FA QB such as AJ Maccaron, Bridgwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Alex smith is exactly who mccagnan and bowles would get if they are very happy their contracts were extended and believe they can keep convincing their bosses to extend them if they simply 'don't suck'. It will be the signal that they haven't learned a thing about what can really turn a franchise around, what the fan base really wants and what would really give them league-wide respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Alex Smith with this roster is an 8 win team. A solid draft and 60-70 mil in free agency....I’ll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, rangerous said: yes you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Ummmmmm no!! Why in the world would the Jets get a 34 year average QB... Smith has not won and he is old and with those statements we will end up with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Hot take. What would you like to add to the conversation besides ridicule of what others post, same sh*t different day with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: What would you like to add to the conversation besides ridicule of what others post, same sh*t different day with you. Define irony, by posting FIRE ______ in all-caps in every thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Integrity28 said: Define irony, by posting FIRE ______ in all-caps in every thread. Thats my OPINION they are like assholes everybody has one. How are you doing tonight? Did you have a Merry Christmas? Any plans for New Years eve? I often wondered what miserable people like yourself do during the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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