Jetster Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Since so many people on this site think they are smarter than the scouts & some even tell others which QBs will be good & which ones will suck, let's have this one thread that will be very easy to find so in the future we can repost this thread & see where all this sites "experts" stand. My Franchise QBs in the 2018 NFL draft are....Mason Rudoph, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson. I think Darnold is another overrated USC QB. My dark horse is Finley. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Darnold is starting to look like Sanchez 2.0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Mayfield, Rosen, Allen, darkhorses ( Benkert, Riley Ferguson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Franchise qbs- Darnold, Rosen good to decent qbs - Jackson, Barrett busts - Mayfield, Rudolph, Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Allen 5 Rudolph I will also go on the record and say I wouldn't even consider drafting Jackson as a QB. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The Sicario sequel will be the best movie of 2018. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted December 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2017 Hackenberg starts next year and wins 10 games. Has a better career than anyone from this draft. 2 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said: Hackenberg starts next year and wins 10 games. Has a better career than anyone from this draft. I definitely agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: The Sicario sequel will be the best movie of 2018. Only if Danny Trejo is in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: The Sicario sequel will be the best movie of 2018. thank you for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Darnold is starting to look like Sanchez 2.0 Starting to???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pointdexter Posted December 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2017 Rosen is the most pro ready. Low bust potential. Darnold will be a good pro. As much as ppl overreacted last yr about him being a savior, just as much overreaction is now happening with his scrutiny. Some of us called ALL OF THIS one year ago. He will be fine but the transition to the NFL will be a bit steeper than it is for Rosen. I actually think his ceiling is higher, however. Love Baker Mayfield. He should be our pick, period. The floor is Flutie. The ceiling is Russell Wilson/Steve Young. Lamar Jackson is going to struggle mightily throwing the football. Not a first rd talent at QB. Probably not a 2nd rounder either. Major accuracy and footwork concerns. Finley stays in school, as does drew lock. But they will both be names to watch in 2019, along with Jacob Eason and Shea Patterson. Benkert is a sleeper. Has tools. Will be very interesting to see what he does at the senior bowl. I also love Quent Flowers in the late rounds. Below avg arm but amazing athlete and winner. Will make a living in the NFL somewhere. Mason Rudolph is ok. Feel he's a career back up. Doesn't demonstrate great arm in live action, floats a lot of balls. He's a hard pass for me right now. 1)Mayfield 2) Rosen 3) Darnold If I'm ranking the last 2 classes: 1) Deshaun Watson 2) Mayfield 3) Trubisky 4) Rosen 5) Darnold 6) Mahomes Yeah, I wasn't one that felt '18 was a better class than '17. And I still don't. And we had the creme of the crop sitting there at 6, and we passed on him for an effing safety. Let that sink in. We can atone by taking Mayfield, however. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted December 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2017 Not sure who’ll end up being good, but I wouldn’t draft Josh Allen with Bea Arthur’s dick. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Preface by saying I dont root for any player that's not a Jet. Don't play fantasy. Rooting for Jackson to be a Jet. Would be excited to see how his game translates to the NFL and how I think he can help this Jet roster. Also I know nothing about scouting QBs but big 12 QBs scare me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: Not sure who’ll end up being good, but I wouldn’t draft Josh Allen with Bea Arthur’s dick. Darnold might actually be worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I don't think it matters until they are drafted. I'm 100% convinced more than ever, a lot more of it has to do with coaching than anything. Relatively speaking, Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield are all in the same ball park as prospects. The difference will be who gets paired with a coach that understands how to utilize their strengths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Not sure who’ll end up being good, but I wouldn’t draft Josh Allen with Bea Arthur’s dick. I hope we do. Not because he is good. Just because. Haha 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I don't think it matters until they are drafted. I'm 100% convinced more than ever, a lot more of it has to do with coaching than anything. Relatively speaking, Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield are all in the same ball park as prospects. The difference will be who gets paired with a coach that understands how to utilize their strengths. This. Except for Mayfield. It will take some time for Baker to be ready to play in the NFL, if ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Tool will finally release a new album. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Not sure who’ll end up being good, but I wouldn’t draft Josh Allen with Bea Arthur’s dick. What are you doing with Bea Arthur's dick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Darnold and Rosen are still the top two QBs. Jackson will be good but get hurt too often. Mayfield will be a bust if he has to go to a team where he has to carry the load, may be okay if he goes to a stacked team. Allen will be a bust. All the rest are meh, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackman55 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 46 minutes ago, Jetster said: Since so many people on this site think they are smarter than the scouts & some even tell others which QBs will be good & which ones will suck, let's have this one thread that will be very easy to find so in the future we can repost this thread & see where all this sites "experts" stand. My Franchise QBs in the 2018 NFL draft are....Mason Rudoph, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson. I think Darnold is another overrated USC QB. My dark horse is Finley. If you check some of the other forums, like the draft, many of us have listed our rankings over the past few months. I posted this on November 18th in the draft forum and I'm sticking to it. On 11/18/2017 at 1:43 PM, Mackman55 said: 1 - Baker Mayfield - Far and away the best QB prospect in this class. Veteran signal caller has improved each year and has shown poise, accuracy along with incredible leadership in helping Oklahoma to a possible playoff assignment. The only QB that can step in and start right away. 2 - Sam Darnold - Regressed this year after a superb 2016 as he adjusts to a new offensive system. Despite his off year Darnold still shows off an accurate arm and the "it" factor in being able to make the big plays when most needed. A little worry would be how he would handle the cold, wet and windy east coast weather. ====== I see a big drop off after the first two----------- 3 - Lamar Jackson - Has taken another step forward as a passer this year with improved focus and mechanics. Not a 1-2 year savior but if put in the right situation could be a major weapon down the line with his breathtaking running ability. 4/5 - Mason Rudolph / Ryan Finley - Both have shown flashes of talent and production which must be respected. Should be drafted as developmental prospects and groomed. Would not draft under any circumstances: Josh Rosen - Terrible under pressure, he lives in the middle of the field when he can throw in rhythm, average QB when challenged. Injury prone, throws tons of bad interceptions. The most overrated QB in the class IMO. Josh Allen - Off his performances this year he should barely receive a draft-able grade. Plays most of his games against 2nd and 3rd rate competition, looked like a HS QB against Oregon's first tier athletes. A look strider, he is totally miscast as an read option QB absorbing way too may hits with his upright running style. Completely melts down under pressure in the pocket and sometimes appears most comfortable rolling right and throwing on the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Franchise QB: Rosen, Allen and Darnold. Possibly Mayfield (I'm rooting for him to make it) Avoid: Jackson, Rudolph, Falk Dark Horse: Silvers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: I don't think it matters until they are drafted. I'm 100% convinced more than ever, a lot more of it has to do with coaching than anything. Relatively speaking, Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield are all in the same ball park as prospects. The difference will be who gets paired with a coach that understands how to utilize their strengths. Mayfield is a step down from the these 2. I would take any of them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said: Franchise QB: Rosen, Allen and Darnold. Possibly Mayfield (I'm rooting for him to make it) Avoid: Jackson, Rudolph, Falk Dark Horse: Silvers Allen lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Mayfield is a step down from the these 2. I would take any of them though To each their own. I don't think he is. Play on the field he's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: To each their own. I don't think he is. Play on the field he's better. True, but you have to take other things into account. We all fell in love with him a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Kleckineau said: Darnold is starting to look like Sanchez 2.0 I am not sure he is as good.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: True, but you have to take other things into account. We all fell in love with him a month ago. Other than 3 or 4 inches of height, I'd like to know what he doesn't posses the other 2 do? I'll concede arm strength to Rosen. "Everyone fell in love with him a month ago" because no one told people that they you should prior to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Other than 3 or 4 inches of height, I'd like to know what he doesn't posses the other 2 do? I'll concede arm strength to Rosen. "Everyone fell in love with him a month ago" because no one told you that you should prior to that. He gives up arm strength to Darnold too. Dont know who started the noodle arm nonsense here. If you think he doesnt you need to stop evaluating QBs. Competition is a step down. He doesnt throw into as tight a window as the other 2. He doesnt check down his progressions nearly as well. But hey, want to get pissy because I think that hes a step down right now for these reasons? He is, has always been seen this way, could change going forward but up to now, nope. Most still have him at 4. But hey, its ok you like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Jet Nut said: He gives up arm strength to Darnold too. Dont know who started the noodle arm nonsense here. If you think he doesnt you need to stop evaluating QBs. Competition is a step down. He doesnt throw into as tight a window as the other 2. He doesnt check down his progressions nearly as well. But hey, want to get pissy because I think that hes a step down right now for these reasons? He is, has always been seen this way, could change going forward but up to now, nope. Most still have him at 4. But hey, its ok you like him. Darnold does not have a stronger arm than Mayfield. That is ridiculous. Your entire argument is ridiculous. What makes you thing Darnold goes through his progressions well? Competition is a step down? From the PAC 12? Do you even watch college football? I'm honestly asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I know little about college football and so I will offer my UNINFORMED opinion.... 1. Mayfield 2. Rosen 3. Darnold. IMO any of these would be fine. However Mayfield's attitude, I believe, would be best able to take NY pressure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Hackenberg starts next year and wins 10 games. Has a better career than anyone from this draft. We're trading Hack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 hours ago, sourceworx said: Darnold might actually be worse. Than Bea Arthur's dick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Darnold does not have a stronger arm than Mayfield. That is ridiculous. Your entire argument is ridiculous. What makes you thing Darnold goes through his progressions well? Competition is a step down? From the PAC 12? Do you even watch college football? I'm honestly asking. Ridiculous? Do I even watch football? The entire argument is ridiculous? You are pissy. Believe what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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