Mecca Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Lets rank the top 3 positions on a 53 man roster 1. Q 2. LT 3. Pass Rusher 4. #1CB 5. #1WR In Macc's 3 drafts, we've spent our 3 first round picks on... a 3-4 DE an undersized ILB a strong safety Macc doesn't put priority on high value positions, thus when you really analyze this roster, we have NO future at any of the 5 power positions, sans MAYBE Robby Anderson evolving into a #1. In the draft, we've seen a repetitive style in his taste in QB's. Size, arm strength, pocket QB. He's 0/2 thus far, and has yet to try throwing a 1st rounder on a QB, despite the immediate need for one all 3 years. Our pick this off-season is our most important in the past 2 decades... and I don't trust our GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: ^ Why Mecca is a poor unoriginal poster. Where else has this been said? You look like you're 14 years old kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mecca said: Where else has this been said? You look like you're 14 years old bro. Hey we have a Joe Benigno sighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He is a clueless drafter. He wanted Karama if he fell in the 3rd but of course missed him. Drafting another safety in rd two was much more important ha. May maybe would have been there when we selected 3rd round. Hackenberg probably would have went to 3rd round too 2 yrs ago. Remember the story with the Texans ? They traded right up right in front of jets in 2nd round of 16 draft . Mac was so worried they were then going to pick hackenberg because there was qb coach connection, but of course they didn’t ha. They got the Center we should have picked. And I’m sure the Texans figured if Mac had a clue he was probably going to pick the center looking at our big hole there , hence why he traded up in front of jets. Now Martin is the Texans best lineman, hackenberg will be cut, and we will once again be in need to draft a qb and center this yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Tough call here. My issues lie with the HC more than the GM, however, the Hack pick unfortunately is a huge black mark on his record until such time as he obliterates it with a HR at QB, if he ever does that is. He started on the path to doing so with the Sheldumb trade, that was a terrific trade for us. So picking high again, I am not sure if I trust him to do the best thing, what with the HC looking over his shoulders to insure his defense improves since he is a supposed defensive guru... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 45 minutes ago, Mecca said: Lets rank the top 3 positions on a 53 man roster 1. Q 2. LT 3. Pass Rusher 4. #1CB 5. #1WR In Macc's 3 drafts, we've spent our 3 first round picks on... a 3-4 DE an undersized ILB a strong safety Macc doesn't put priority on high value positions, thus when you really analyze this roster, we have NO future at any of the 5 power positions, sans MAYBE Robby Anderson evolving into a #1. In the draft, we've seen a repetitive style in his taste in QB's. Size, arm strength, pocket QB. He's 0/2 thus far, and has yet to try throwing a 1st rounder on a QB, despite the immediate need for one all 3 years. Our pick this off-season is our most important in the past 2 decades... and I don't trust our GM. Mostly agree with what you say. Mac did target and try hard to trade up for Goff, though, who, along with Wentz, are the next great NFC QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Mostly agree with what you say. Mac did target and try hard to trade up for Goff, though, who, along with Wentz, are the next great NFC QBs. Do or do not. There is no try. A good GM targets a player and gets him if he believes in him. Macchole takes what he is given instead of going after and filling the needs of this team. His best quality is his ability to write contracts. SO far he has done a mediocre to poor job as a GM. I will be watching intently this FA season and draft to see if he continues to do more of the same or goes hard after this teams greatest needs. The 2 year extension both received this off-season will probably coincide with our illustrious owner being done playing ambassador. I fully expect these will make it or break it years for both our HC and GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, JetFaninMI said: Do or do not. There is no try. A good GM targets a player and gets him if he believes in him. Macchole takes what he is given instead of going after and filling the needs of this team. His best quality is his ability to write contracts. SO far he has done a mediocre to poor job as a GM. I will be watching intently this FA season and draft to see if he continues to do more of the same or goes hard after this teams greatest needs. The 2 year extension both received this off-season will probably coincide with our illustrious owner being done playing ambassador. I fully expect these will make it or break it years for both our HC and GM. Trading up from #20 to #1 is difficult. But the point is that he identified Goff as a franchise QB (good) and tried to go up and get him. The Rams had more to offer and got their guy. They've gone from the worst scoring offense in the league to the best scoring offense in the league in one year. Goff and Gurley are dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 My favorite part of this post is how it says let's rank the top 3 then lists 5. Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Trading up from #20 to #1 is difficult. But the point is that he identified Goff as a franchise QB (good) and tried to go up and get him. The Rams had more to offer and got their guy. They've gone from the worst scoring offense in the league to the best scoring offense in the league in one year. Goff and Gurley are dynamic. True but if he really wanted Goff he would have done what it took to get him. Hell Ditka gave away his whole draft to get Rickey Williams because he believed in him. I'm not saying it was a good deal for them but he identified the guy he wanted and went and got him. Could he have gotten Goff? We will never know because we don't know what was offered etc. Goff and Gurley flourished only when the Rams canned the Master of Mediocrity Jeff Fischer so the HC has a lot to do with player development. Bowles seems more like Fischer to me than a guy who could develop younger guys. So in keeping him I fully expect them to spend, spend,spend. this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Hey, its "best player available". Just because it means thats a DL every. damn. time. Doesn't mean you get to criticize! Sure, we had Wilk, Leo, Sheldon, and hit gold with Snacks. But we had to get rid of Sheldon and Snacks.. and will dump Mo too. So we have no DL and need to take another if he is the "best player available" regardless of anything else. So, something something best player available. Something something profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I'd like to see at least one more off-season and draft before casting aspersions at Macc. If we do not enter the 2018 season with a franchise QB, an upgraded center, a RB, and an edge rusher, and a bookend to Claiborne, I'll rent a plane to fly the FIRE MACC banner. I have a strong feeling that we are entering 2018 with someone like Bridgewater and one of the the second tier of QB's in the draft. It will be Allen, Mayfield, or Baker. McCown retires and stays on as a coach. Hackenberg plays out his rookie deal as 3rd QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: True but if he really wanted Goff he would have done what it took to get him. Hell Ditka gave away his whole draft to get Rickey Williams because he believed in him. I'm not saying it was a good deal for them but he identified the guy he wanted and went and got him. Could he have gotten Goff? We will never know because we don't know what was offered etc. Goff and Gurley flourished only when the Rams canned the Master of Mediocrity Jeff Fischer so the HC has a lot to do with player development. Bowles seems more like Fischer to me than a guy who could develop younger guys. So in keeping him I fully expect them to spend, spend,spend. this off-season. Not saying Fischer is good, but Goff and Gurley were both top ten picks (Mac had both of those guys ranked high, by the way). Gurley was really good his rookie year. You can't make chicken sh*t out of chicken salad. Goff is really quick upstairs and has a quick release, so the ball gets to where it's supposed to go very quickly. I'm not so sure you can teach that. Gurley is Marshall Faulk part II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 It's disappointing we already went through the "have a lot of cap space" phase and are still at square one With that said the "addition by subtraction" phase went well. Let's try something new, patience and support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Larz said: It's disappointing we already went through the "have a lot of cap space" phase and are still at square one With that said the "addition by subtraction" phase went well. Let's try something new, patience and support OK let's continue to wait so we can end up like this guy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Mecca said: Lets rank the top 3 positions on a 53 man roster 1. Q 2. LT 3. Pass Rusher 4. #1CB 5. #1WR The #1 QB in football is Aaron Rogers and his team didn't make the playoffs. Yes he was hurt but they've also "only" won 1 SB with him as the starter. The #1 LT in football is Joe Thomas and his team is 1-31 the last 2 years The #1 Pass Rusher is Chandler Jones and his team is 7-8 The #1 CB is Xavier Rhodes and the Vikings are having an awesome year The #1 WR is Antonio Brown and the Steelers are having an awesome year 2 hours ago, Mecca said: In Macc's 3 drafts, we've spent our 3 first round picks on... a 3-4 DE an undersized ILB a strong safety a 3-4 DE who will be in multiple pro bowls and will be a defensive stalwart on the Jets for the next decade an undersized ILB who has made significant improvement in his game and is a disruptive force against the run. wouldn't be surprised to see him become a pro bowler a strong safety who will be in multpile pro bowls and will be a defensive stalwart on the Jets for the next decade I've already posted it a # of times but this myth that Macc has passed over multiple franchise QB's is just that... a myth. If you want to condemn Macc for drafting good to potentially great players in the 1st round that's your right but not sure what you want. Go look at the 10 players taken after Lee and tell me what the better pick was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Mecca said: Where else has this been said? You look like you're 14 years old kid. Every where. And yes, I found the fountain of youth. Funny that most of the folks that down repped me are the Mac haters. Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 A defensive stalwart for many years, you guys. Probably make the Pro Bowl, you guys. Wouldn’t be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: A defensive stalwart for many years, you guys. Probably make the Pro Bowl, you guys. Wouldn’t be surprised. I mean, Jamal Adams said it on Twitter, so it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalscience Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Yay. Another macc sucks thread. Stay tuned for a Bowles sucks thread coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, naturalscience said: Yay. Another magic sucks thread. Stay tuned for a Bowles sucks thread coming soon. Magic does suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I mean, Jamal Adams said it on Twitter, so it must be true. He’s a stalwart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Magic does suck. He drafted Lonzo tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: OK let's continue to wait so we can end up like this guy..... What else we gonna do chuck? Im tired of the negativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: OK let's continue to wait so we can end up like this guy..... At least he’s happy. And he has some fluid ass rhythm. Dude is about to crank that Soulja boy all over the row in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Pac said: The #1 QB in football is Aaron Rogers and his team didn't make the playoffs. Yes he was hurt but they've also "only" won 1 SB with him as the starter. The #1 LT in football is Joe Thomas and his team is 1-31 the last 2 years The #1 Pass Rusher is Chandler Jones and his team is 7-8 The #1 CB is Xavier Rhodes and the Vikings are having an awesome year The #1 WR is Antonio Brown and the Steelers are having an awesome year a 3-4 DE who will be in multiple pro bowls and will be a defensive stalwart on the Jets for the next decade an undersized ILB who has made significant improvement in his game and is a disruptive force against the run. wouldn't be surprised to see him become a pro bowler a strong safety who will be in multpile pro bowls and will be a defensive stalwart on the Jets for the next decade I've already posted it a # of times but this myth that Macc has passed over multiple franchise QB's is just that... a myth. If you want to condemn Macc for drafting good to potentially great players in the 1st round that's your right but not sure what you want. Go look at the 10 players taken after Lee and tell me what the better pick was. “Actually, having good players isn’t that good, also all of our players are in fact good” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: My favorite part of this post is how it says let's rank the top 3 then lists 5. Gold. Are we talkin' INVESTMENT GOLD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Larz said: What else we gonna do chuck? Im tired of the negativity You know I am with you; just love that guys Gif is all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, BRONX DUDE said: Are we talkin' INVESTMENT GOLD ? I have some silver buffalo coins bro. What can I throw in the pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: He’s a stalwart. a stalwart member of the defense.. better professor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Mac is not a poor GM; he's just meh. The adjective "poor" should be reserved for the ones that worked hard to earn it, like Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, legler82 said: Mac is not a poor GM; he's just meh. The adjective "poor" should be reserved for the ones that worked hard to earn it, like Idzik. 12 picks in one draft and he hits on Sheldon and one 6th round WR(Enunwa) ..Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, legler82 said: Mac is not a poor GM; he's just meh. The adjective "poor" should be reserved for the ones that worked hard to earn it, like Idzik. Idzik was awful but Mac is right there with him. Defense first every 1st round as it will be this year. I hope Woody has a #MeToo moment and is forced to sell the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Trading up from #20 to #1 is difficult. But the point is that he identified Goff as a franchise QB (good) and tried to go up and get him. The Rams had more to offer and got their guy. They've gone from the worst scoring offense in the league to the best scoring offense in the league in one year. Goff and Gurley are dynamic. Wait so Mac deserves credit for agreeing with the world Goff should be a number 1 overall pick ? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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