Bugg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, southparkcpa said: I’m still pissed over Russel Wilson and Jacoby Brisset. BOTH QBs available easily for us and from my eyes played a fluid game. yet we take HACK???? Ridiculous. Calvin Pryor over over Derek Carr. Hack over Prescott. It's as if Florham Park thinks they have some great secret about winning football that doesn't involve passing effectively. If you are going to buck industry trends you had best succeed,and wildly so. That hasn't been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Maxman said: I have never banned anyone out of anger before. Maybe Pats Fan Tx one time when he told me my panties were in a bunch lol. I am telling you, after years of people complaining about what a bad poster you are, I am getting close to listening. You know so little, you are bringing down the IQ here. I need you to step away and drop this garbage premise. Like I said it is annoying me. I’m sorry if you find it that way. But I truly believe it. I’m not trolling. This is what I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: I’m sorry if you find it that way. But I truly believe it. I’m not trolling. This is what I believe I understand you believe it. That is what makes banning you an actual option. If you were trolling, I would have already sent you a PM thanking you for the extra post count. The fact that you believe it is what is scary. The fans are not to blame for the Jets now winning a Super Bowl since 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Woody has no problems paying players like the Bengals or Packers do. He's never paid a coach or a guy to run everything. He meddles. Hence why the Jets continue to shuffle through C, C- level hires. A lot of guys have turned down promotions to work here. Woody needs to pay and keep out if he wants to turn the franchise around. I 100% agree with all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Maxman said: I understand you believe it. That is what makes banning you an actual option. If you were trolling, I would have already sent you a PM thanking you for the extra post count. The fact that you believe it is what is scary. The fans are not to blame for the Jets now winning a Super Bowl since 1969. Not directly. The owner is the main culprit. But the fans can make it known that they have had enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Maxman said: I 100% agree with all of that. So do I. Woody needs to pay and keep out entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I have to step away and do something with my family. If someone would be so kind as to take over this, "the Jets lose because of the fans" debate with United Who it would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Not directly. The owner is the main culprit. But the fans can make it known that they have had enough Let's start with you. The Jets know that JetNation is the top fan site. They have told me that they read this stuff. So if you just stop posting, then post counts will go down. I can send them our stats and show the regression. That will show that fans are pulling back. When that happens, and only when, then they will realize they need a QB that doesn't suck. So it starts with you. Just stop posting and you can fix all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Maxman said: I have to step away and do something with my family. If someone would be so kind as to take over this, "the Jets lose because of the fans" debate with United Who it would be greatly appreciated. Enjoy the day; you have earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: But you just said he didn’t care about that or winning? Why would he care about making a media splash if he was getting paid anyway? Winning and looking like a big man in the media are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Maxman said: I 100% agree with all of that. Mangini was probably the closest we've had since Woody bought the team. And that ended quickly sooo who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Mangini was probably the closest we've had since Woody bought the team. And that ended quickly sooo who knows. Probably the best talent evaluator the Jets have had. Trouble is he couldn’t coach or use the media well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 8 hours ago, flgreen said: If it was his neighbors dog, he would have tanked for "the Son of Sam." Sorry couldn't resist Right, it's gotta be his dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 9 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: You don't think Belichick would've gotten more wins out of this team? John Harbaugh? Andy Reid? Didn't the chiefs lose to the Jets with a considerably more talented roster? Didn't get Jets almost grab the lead late in the 4th when a TD was overturned against the Pats, who is the #1 seed in the AFC and defending SB champs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think for once they're acting reasonably. Both the HC and the GM were new at their jobs and a work in progress. And both after noted struggles have improved and we're seeing it with the team and in the org. It makes no sense to rip that up and start over again. I'll take Chris over Woody. Even though I'm sure Woody is still involved even though he's not supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Give any HC in the league the QB situation the Jets have had over the 3 years and I can't imagine having any more wins than Bowles got out of them. Yeah that Bowles guy is a real NFL wizard. We are in awe of his mastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Rangers9 said: I think for once they're acting reasonably. Both the HC and the GM were new at their jobs and a work in progress. And both after noted struggles have improved and we're seeing it with the team and in the org. It makes no sense to rip that up and start over again. I'll take Chris over Woody. Even though I'm sure Woody is still involved even though he's not supposed to be. I think Chris is trying to play the long game. No one would work for this team if they fired MacBowles after making them sign Revis and the other short term moves they made. The goal must be to try and improve the roster while angling to replace at least Bowles. The Morton stuff is completely weird. I think MacBowles remain frustrated that the offensive coaches have not figured out to develop the quarterbacks they drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 9 hours ago, varjet said: I think Chris is trying to play the long game. No one would work for this team if they fired MacBowles after making them sign Revis and the other short term moves they made. The goal must be to try and improve the roster while angling to replace at least Bowles. The Morton stuff is completely weird. I think MacBowles remain frustrated that the offensive coaches have not figured out to develop the quarterbacks they drafted. I thought Bowles comments on Morton were ok. He said the guy did a good job but made a few mistakes. He isn't firing Morton if Morton goes it's on his own volition. I think the Raiders can't hire Morton as an OC unless they give him a higher title like Asst HC. Morton actually knows Gruden from his time with the Packers (as a player and Gruden was his Wr coach) and stated that he wouldn't be where he was today if not for Al Davis. So there is some allegiance to the Raiders. I don't think Bowles or Mac blames Morton for the failures of their young Qbs. He didn't draft them and they didn't adequately develop under other coaches. IMO Petty is who they thought he would be. They always talked about him as an NFL backup Qb. And so far that's what he is. But he can play in the NFL. A lot of teams would sign him if we cut him. I'd keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The Jets front office has done pretty much what they are supposed to do. When they got here, there was talent on the roster and they went out and spent the money they inherited to make them a playoff caliber team. It didn't work so then they did what many fans have been saying for years, blew up the roster and rid themselves of big contracts and released older players so that the young guys can play and develop. The team at it's core is way better than a 1 or 2 win team that many people believed they were and that's great news. Some draft picks have not worked out well and of course the biggest is tied to the QB position but overall we could be in a way worse position than we are. This is their big off season. This is were they tell us that Hack is not the future and get us a rookie with a high pick or spend some of that big cap space on someone. The resigning of Macc and Bowles was the right thing to do for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 DWAZ73 Christopher Johnson says he knew “early on in the season” that he wanted to extend both Bowles and Maccagnan. Says he liked what he was sensing in the locker room, etc. #Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: DWAZ73 Christopher Johnson says he knew “early on in the season” that he wanted to extend both Bowles and Maccagnan. Says he liked what he was sensing in the locker room, etc. #Jets I hope Christopher enjoys the empty seats and miserable fan base next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Gen X Jet said: I hope Christopher enjoys the empty seats and miserable fan base next season. The Johnson family can careless they profit win or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 9:55 AM, prime21 said: The Jets front office has done pretty much what they are supposed to do. When they got here, there was talent on the roster and they went out and spent the money they inherited to make them a playoff caliber team. It didn't work so then they did what many fans have been saying for years, blew up the roster and rid themselves of big contracts and released older players so that the young guys can play and develop. The team at it's core is way better than a 1 or 2 win team that many people believed they were and that's great news. Some draft picks have not worked out well and of course the biggest is tied to the QB position but overall we could be in a way worse position than we are. This is their big off season. This is were they tell us that Hack is not the future and get us a rookie with a high pick or spend some of that big cap space on someone. The resigning of Macc and Bowles was the right thing to do for this team. I think Bowes resigned in that Denver Donkeys game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 2:56 PM, Maxman said: The fans need to stick together and make it happen. Maybe UnitedWho can be our leader and bring it up at a fan forum in Florham Park. Someone want to start a kickstarter lol. UnitedWhoFan for 2018 JN Captain. Make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 4:06 AM, j4jets said: After two straight 5-11 seasons, we started handing out contract extensions to the FO. Well done, Chris. Well done! Maybe we can extend Mo as well after yet another sh*t filled season. Love these 6th overall picks. Helps Mac luck into good players. And you thought Rex was the clown. Hahahahahagahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I think the Johnsons realized that they had no choice but to extend MacBowles. They really did not get a full chance to build a team when they started in 2015. That chance started last year, although as another thread has shown, Mac's drafting has been anywhere between awful to average. If I am the Johnsons I am telling Bowles to improve his coaching staff and telling Mac that he better not screw up anymore draft picks. I don't see Mac as taking any big chances here-they won 5 games with McCown and were close in another 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Woody/Chris Johnson deserves criticism at times but what is essentially happening with the Jets now isn't their fault. Coaches have to coach, GM has to Gm and players have to play it is as simple as that..... Owner isn't putting bad QBs out there or drafting guys not willing to give effort; no, there are guys making money on these moves and they had better start producing results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: UnitedWhoFan for 2018 JN Captain. Make it happen. Apparently only @T0mShane can name the captain every 3 years and it is mandatory that some years he forget who he picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Woody/Chris Johnson deserves criticism at times but what is essentially happening with the Jets now isn't their fault. Coaches have to coach, GM has to Gm and players have to play it is as simple as that..... Owner isn't putting bad QBs out there or drafting guys not willing to give effort; no, there are guys making money on these moves and they had better start producing results. Ehh, I disagree, Woody setup this stupid power structure and IMO demanded they compete quick with a crap roster and no QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Coaches have to coach, GM has to Gm and players have to play it is as simple as that..... With both the GM and Coach answering directly to a terrible owner, it's not that simple. No one really seems to know what role they have, who is actually in charge, and no one is on the same page on the vision for the franchise (and/or the vision is a terrible one). That's on ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Woody/Chris Johnson deserves criticism at times but what is essentially happening with the Jets now isn't their fault. Coaches have to coach, GM has to Gm and players have to play it is as simple as that..... Owner isn't putting bad QBs out there or drafting guys not willing to give effort; no, there are guys making money on these moves and they had better start producing results. Who has ownership put in charge of football that Everyone else answers up to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The Jets are not the only team with this structure. The Giants have the same. Right now, Gettleman can suggest who the new coach is but the owners have the final say. There are other teams in the NFL that have this as well. I don't remember the article though 4 hours ago, NoBowles said: Ehh, I disagree, Woody setup this stupid power structure and IMO demanded they compete quick with a crap roster and no QB 52 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: With both the GM and Coach answering directly to a terrible owner, it's not that simple. No one really seems to know what role they have, who is actually in charge, and no one is on the same page on the vision for the franchise (and/or the vision is a terrible one). That's on ownership. 42 minutes ago, ljr said: Who has ownership put in charge of football that Everyone else answers up to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 41 minutes ago, ljr said: Who has ownership put in charge of football that Everyone else answers up to ? Definitely a weakness 100% correct but there is no excuse for not doing your job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: The Jets are not the only team with this structure. The Giants have the same. Right now, Gettleman can suggest who the new coach is but the owners have the final say. There are other teams in the NFL that have this as well. I don't remember the article though Just because it works for other franchises doesn't mean it will ever work for us. You need COMPETENT ownership to make it work. Otherwise, you need to just hire a VP of Operations and hand the keys over. We need the latter to happen if we're ever going to be a perennial contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 15 hours ago, NoBowles said: Ehh, I disagree, Woody setup this stupid power structure and IMO demanded they compete quick with a crap roster and no QB I don’t think he demanded that at all. Why else would you give out extensions after two straight 5-11 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.