Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Let's say we bring in Bridgewater or Cousins in FA. QB no longer is the top priority. Who are you drafting at #6? Would you grab Mcglinchey at OT? Chubb as an edge rusher? Saquon Barkley as our franchise back for the next 10 yrs? Maybe Darwin James to fortify our safety position? Or would you trade back to a QB desperate team like Buffalo, Jacksonville, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Satan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If Barkley is there I would jump on it but are no way he lasts till 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Easy......Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 If we address QB in FA (not my preference), we're probably not drafting qb at #6. Honestly, if I were GM, I would bring in Bridgewater in FA and ALSO draft Mayfield at 6. But I know Macc doesn't think like I do. If he did we would be going into year 2 of the Deshaun Watson era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, section314 said: Easy......Chubb. We haven't had a legit pass rusher in over a Decade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 The Jets can f*** off if the first round pick is anything other than QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Barkley, Bradley or the best OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, faba said: If Barkley is there I would jump on it but are no way he lasts till 6 On the contrary. There is an excellent chance he's there at #6. RB just not valued as high as other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Macc wont use that ammo to trade up. I don't think he believes in it. He'll draft another sh*tty 2 round project under the auspices he's building the team up. Then hell blow all the money he saved on veteran free agents. Our two weaknesses will be OL and QB again and we will suck next year. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 After Barkley who I think is the best player in the draft. OL or passrusher. Chubb McGlinchey Nelson Brown Landry Key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I would think Barkly goes to Indy assuming Luck recovery is on track I agree with Mick Barkley and then Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pennington said: The Jets can f*** off if the first round pick is anything other than QB. Even if we spend 25+ mill/yr on Cousins?? At that point I'm not sure drafting franchise QB makes sense. Probably better in that scenario to surround your investment with assets vs drafting someone to compete with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: If we address QB in FA (not my preference), we're probably not drafting qb at #6. Honestly, if I were GM, I would bring in Bridgewater in FA and ALSO draft Mayfield at 6. But I know Macc doesn't think like I do. If he did we would be going into year 2 of the Deshaun Watson era. Hopefully he’s thinking Cousins and Mayfield instead if wasting time and money on Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Even if we spend 25+ mill/yr on Cousins?? At that point I'm not sure drafting franchise QB makes sense. Probably better in that scenario to surround your investment with assets vs drafting someone to compete with it. Take that stress out and think of it at as BPA in a crappy draft up top. That’s exactly the purpose of signing any FA QB anyway, particularly the one good one in Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: Hopefully he’s thinking Cousins and Mayfield instead if wasting time and money on Bridgewater. I like Bridgewater but probably not the right guy for cold weather and windy. Plus his slight build and injury with this OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Harold Landry (Chubb will be gone). But we’re drafting a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, faba said: I would jump on it but are no way he lasts till 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Even if we spend 25+ mill/yr on Cousins?? At that point I'm not sure drafting franchise QB makes sense. Probably better in that scenario to surround your investment with assets vs drafting someone to compete with it. I am not stupid enough to want to spend 25 million on Cousins. Its about time this team spent a first round pick on a QB. If we don't end up with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield this team can f*** off. We have drafted a QB in the first round 4 times in the last 50 years. The most important position in the sport and this organization has that rarely thought it a good idea to invest a first round pick at the position. Sorry but the only acceptable answer is drafting our guy in this next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, HessStation said: I like Bridgewater but probably not the right guy for cold weather and windy. Plus his slight build and injury with this OL. Yeah I woulda coulda shoulda been a huge Bridgewater fan, couldn’t have less interest in FA except as the third QB. He is a guy who probably came out of school too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Hopefully he’s thinking Cousins and Mayfield instead if wasting time and money on Bridgewater. Again, if you pay the enormous price tag for Cousins and convince him to commit to your franchise, there's no way you're drafting QB in rd 1. It's not smart with the money you're investing. You're all in on the Cousins train at that point and you spend the rest of your assets supporting that investment. Also, Cousins is not accepting a FA contract to a team who's making him compete with a lottery pick talent. He and his agent will want to see how the team supports him to be successful, not how he's going to have to compete for a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Pennington said: I am not stupid enough to want to spend 25 million on Cousins. Its about time this team spent a first round pick on a QB. If we don't end up with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield this team can f*** off. We have drafted a QB in the first round 4 times in the last 50 years. The most important position in the sport and this organization has that rarely thought it a good idea to invest a first round pick at the position. Sorry but the only acceptable answer is drafting our guy in this next draft. Agree 100%. I want one of the above rookie QBs you mentioned. But I double down on a high upside FA like Bridgewater. I give him a short term contract similar to what Glennon got in Chicago last yr. If he comes back healthy and lives up to potential then you can extend him. In this scenario you give yourself a great shot at that elusive franchise QB without breaking the bank like it would cost for Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Again, if you pay the enormous price tag for Cousins and convince him to commit to your franchise, there's no way you're drafting QB in rd 1. It's not smart with the money you're investing. You're all in on the Cousins train at that point and you spend the rest of your assets supporting that investment. Also, Cousins is not accepting a FA contract to a team who's making him compete with a lottery pick talent. He and his agent will want to see how the team supports him to be successful, not how he's going to have to compete for a job. There’s another $70 million to spend and at least 6 more draft picks. Who said anything about making him compete with some draftee? Cousins is way better than any of these 22 year olds, they’re not beating him for any starting job in 2018. Hell, most of these draft pick QBs probably couldn’t beat out McCown right out of TC for the 2018 job in a fair competiton. That isn’t the point of drafting a QB in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Good QBs are generally not attainable, so who really cares? We are playing out a few more years of ineptitude before our owners get slapped in the face with reality and move on, and hopefully bring in a better regime next time around in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Nope, Cousins and a first round draft pick is an unrealistic scenario for a number of seasons. Would never happen, as in 0% chance. Alex Smith/Foles/Bridgewater + a 1st round QB, on the other hand, is a realistic scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Agree 100%. I want one of the above rookie QBs you mentioned. But I double down on a high upside FA like Bridgewater. I give him a short term contract similar to what Glennon got in Chicago last yr. If he comes back healthy and lives up to potential then you can extend him. In this scenario you give yourself a great shot at that elusive franchise QB without breaking the bank like it would cost for Cousins. Can you not see the massive, massive flaws in this line of thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Nope, Cousins and a first round draft pick is an unrealistic scenario for a number of seasons. Would never happen, as in 0% chance. Alex Smith/Foles/Bridgewater + a 1st round QB, on the other hand, is a realistic scenario. What is the difference here? All of these guys are getting 8 figure salaries, Cousins happens to be a couple million higher because he is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Yeah I woulda coulda shoulda been a huge Bridgewater fan, couldn’t have less interest in FA except as the third QB. He is a guy who probably came out of school too early. I don't know. Freak injuries happen. Just bad luck for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: I don't know. Freak injuries happen. Just bad luck for him. Yeah probably, lot of sh*t has to go right in this alternate timeline where he returns to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: If we address QB in FA (not my preference), we're probably not drafting qb at #6. Honestly, if I were GM, I would bring in Bridgewater in FA and ALSO draft Mayfield at 6. But I know Macc doesn't think like I do. If he did we would be going into year 2 of the Deshaun Watson era. And we would still have 5 wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, usapaw said: And we would still have 5 wins... ...with a future superstar franchise QB. Does that obvious fact escape you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Let's say we bring in Bridgewater or Cousins in FA. QB no longer is the top priority. Who are you drafting at #6? Would you grab Mcglinchey at OT? Chubb as an edge rusher? Saquon Barkley as our franchise back for the next 10 yrs? Maybe Darwin James to fortify our safety position? Or would you trade back to a QB desperate team like Buffalo, Jacksonville, etc? I like Barkley the RB from Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Tony Romo yesterday gave pretty good reasons why the Jets D needs a good edge rusher. But they aren't that easy to find. Plus we always use our no. 1 pick for defense. He also said the obvious: we need a Qb. To me there is not one great player worthy of us trading up for. If Darnold is still around at 4 or 5, I might consider it. Rosen I wouldn't trade up for esp with his concussion history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Pointdexter said: If we address QB in FA (not my preference), we're probably not drafting qb at #6. Honestly, if I were GM, I would bring in Bridgewater in FA and ALSO draft Mayfield at 6. But I know Macc doesn't think like I do. If he did we would be going into year 2 of the Deshaun Watson era. imo, with the 6th pick they should be able to get an impact player right from the start. i think i'd go fo the edge rusher or lt and stay away from the rb. and i would further consider trading down for a 1 and a 3 or so. i'd still draft a qb to replace petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: ...with a future superstar franchise QB. Does that obvious fact escape you? Stop with the future superstar bunk. We have no idea if he is another flash in the pan after 5 whole games. Everyone though Kap and RG3 were locks to be superstars after 5 games also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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