CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 What happens if BOTH Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen decide to stay in school? Rosen is only a junior who has already said he doesn't want to play for Cleveland. Darnold did not have a great season, and did not play well during the Cotton Bowl. Both could decide to come back for one more year. IF they were to both stay in school, would it change your draft philosophy, given that Mayfield, Allen, and Jackson could potentially be gone by the time we pick at 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 BPA DL baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We'll most likely lose out on Mayfield... then it will be BPA- Mcags favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If they are advised that they are both top 10 picks, why would they stay in school. It would be a very stupid move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Lamar Jackson's agent would then buy that new Jaguar he's been looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: What happens if BOTH Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen decide to stay in school? Rosen is only a junior who has already said he doesn't want to play for Cleveland. Darnold did not have a great season, and did not play well during the Cotton Bowl. Both could decide to come back for one more year. IF they were to both stay in school, would it change your draft philosophy, given that Mayfield, Allen, and Jackson could potentially be gone by the time we pick at 6? Seriously? Nobody is wasting a top 5 pick on this guy. He could use 5 more years in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: If they are advised that they are both top 10 picks, why would they stay in school. It would be a very stupid move They're both in the top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Lamar Jackson's agent would then buy that new Jaguar he's been looking at The F-Type... I Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Browns pick Mayfield and we lose out terribley. this is a nightmare scenario not interesting. You bunch of damn massicist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If they both stay in school I could see Cleveland trading that first pick and going after a QB in FA. Bridgewater would be my guess. Then if you keep both picks OL and RB would be my guess for them. In fact I could see most of the QB needy teams dipping into the FA well. The Giants probably go after Mayfield though but if both guys stay in it will upset the apple cart on draft day. I think Rosen goes and Darnold stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: damn massicist! That's like a guy who beats himself cause no one else will do, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: That's like a guy who beats himself cause no one else will do, right? Pretty much. you guys get off on pain and misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Darnold should stay in school but who-the-hell-knows what he will decide in the next two week. Rosen is going to come out, I guarantee it. He may well refuse to go to Cleveland, forcing his way onto the Giants to back up Eli for a year or two. I like Mayfield but I can't see him going top three. The Browns might take him with their second pick at four but if they don't I could see both the Broncos and the Jets passing on him because of the risk factor. The Jets/McCagnan are conservative drafters, strong defense... ball control offense. I could see them picking the Wyoming qb if they had not already f*cked up with an inaccurate second round pick qb who also looks the part physically but can't hit the ocean. Mayfield with his personality and his physical stature seems wildly un-Jetlike for our exciting visionaries in the Jets front office. My guess is Josh Allen, Mayfield will be drafted 11,12,13 or 15. Miami, Cinncinati, Washington (If Cousins leaves) or Arizona. Lamar Jackson could also go in that range or maybe later on to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gangrene said: Darnold should stay in school but who-the-hell-knows what he will decide in the next two week. Rosen is going to come out, I guarantee it. He may well refuse to go to Cleveland, forcing his way onto the Giants to back up Eli for a year or two. I like Mayfield but I can't see him going top three. I could see both the Broncos and the Jets passing on him at 4 and 5 because of the risk factor. The Jets/McCagnan are conservative drafters, strong defense... ball control offense. I could see them picking the Wyoming qb if they had not already f*cked up with an inaccurate second round pick qb that also looks the part physically but can't hit the ocean. Mayfield with his personality and his physical stature seems wildly un-Jetlike for our exciting front office. If they pass on Mayfield..IM DONE with Mac. And I’m a huge supporter. that said..the mission is FQB..we ain’t passing. Don’t care about usual trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Lamar Jackson's agent would then buy that new Jaguar he's been looking at He didn't look great on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: If they pass on Mayfield..IM DONE with Mac. And I’m a huge supporter. that said..the mission is FQB..we ain’t passing. Don’t care about usual trends. I want to see what Mayfied does but I agree. Either they sign a long term deal for a QB or they draft one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 What's the deadline for players to declare? I can't see Rosen and Darnold not coming out. They are considered top 3 picks. It's hard to get your stock any higher than that. Especially for Darnold who is coming off a down year. He's taking a gamble if he goes back to school and has another sub par season IMO. Barkley made that mistake a few years ago if I remember correctly. He cost himself financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: He didn't look great on Saturday. Maybe his agent will have to settle for a pre-owned model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: What's the deadline for players to declare? I can't see Rosen and Darnold not coming out. They are considered top 3 picks. It's hard to get your stock any higher than that. Especially for Darnold who is coming off a down here. He's taking a gamble if he goes back to school and has another sub par season IMO. Barkley made that mistake a few years ago if I remember correctly. He cost himself financially. leinart did it too. is he even in the league? imo the kalifornia qb's, especially those from usc, have extremely great lives so that the attraction of the nfl is dinimshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: What happens if BOTH Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen decide to stay in school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Browns pick Mayfield and we lose out terribley. this is a nightmare scenario not interesting. You bunch of damn massicist! I hope they take Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We ill know soon, if that's the case, I'd go after Teddy Bridgewater and if it fails go Tank 2.0 and get an Edge Rusher or LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, adb280z said: I hope they take Mayfield. Ha! You are hoping for us to lose out then. Baker is the real deal and I can’t until he plays these SEC teams and proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Ha! You are hoping for us to lose out then. Baker is the real deal and I can’t until he plays these SEC teams and proves it. I don't think he is. He's still behind Rosen and Darnold for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Darnold did not have a great season This is fallacy, because Darnold struggled in the first few games (with a new offense, and a full compliment of new skill position players to throw to) of the season when everyone was like oh man I gotta check this guy out, and then insta judged him that he sucks, and had a bad year, but the guys who actually pay attention to the whole body of Work not just the media driven sheep kept watching him, and watched him have a fantastic season as it went on, yes in the bowl game, and the ND game he played poorly, but that’s not all on him in both games USC gotta physically DOMINATED up front at the line of scrimmage, and no QB would have stood a chance in those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Even without this scenario, I'm starting to think we are going to overpay for Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleU Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Darnold may get a pass for sucking this year. He won't get 2 passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Then I look forward to picking the reincarnation of Quentin Coples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, adb280z said: I don't think he is. He's still behind Rosen and Darnold for me. Rosen? Yes. Rosen is very mechinally clean and plays under center. He’s the safest QB in a long time. Darnold is very exciting and makes great throws but with all of these turnovers..he might go back to school and polish up once more. Is he better? At this point..Dunno..but I truely feel like Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield all 3 can be great in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 @Lupz27 ..you want LAMAR JACKSON. Besides height what does Mayfield do different? That’s the biggest bash on Baker is the spread concep QB play. Let’s talk it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: That's like a guy who beats himself cause no one else will do, right? masochist. I think a massicist is someone who loves Catholic mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, section314 said: Seriously? Nobody is wasting a top 5 pick on this guy. He could use 5 more years in school. Seriously back? If you lose Rosen and Darnold, Jackson automatically becomes one of the top three QB's in the draft. I didn't say you had to agree, but the fact is he would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: This is fallacy, because Darnold struggled in the first few games (with a new offense, and a full compliment of new skill position players to throw to) of the season when everyone was like oh man I gotta check this guy out, and then insta judged him that he sucks, and had a bad year, but the guys who actually pay attention to the whole body of Work not just the media driven sheep kept watching him, and watched him have a fantastic season as it went on, yes in the bowl game, and the ND game he played poorly, but that’s not all on him in both games USC gotta physically DOMINATED up front at the line of scrimmage, and no QB would have stood a chance in those games. If by fallacy you mean its true, then yes, it is a fallacy. I watched more college football than I ever have this year, and he did not look like the consensus number 1-will change the face of a franchise QB that everyone keeps saying he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: If they both stay in school I could see Cleveland trading that first pick and going after a QB in FA. Bridgewater would be my guess. Then if you keep both picks OL and RB would be my guess for them. In fact I could see most of the QB needy teams dipping into the FA well. The Giants probably go after Mayfield though but if both guys stay in it will upset the apple cart on draft day. I think Rosen goes and Darnold stays. Is it possible? YES. Probable? No. I think 1 of the 2 staying is possible though. It's a tough call....Rosen doesn't want to play in Cleveland, so it would make sense for him to go back to school. But Darnold did not dominate like many suggested he would. That said, if the word on the street is he will either go 1 or 2, why wouldn't you still come out? Unless of course he thinks/is advised that another year in College would do him well.... Maybe Mark Sanchez would have a word with him as a former USC QB about coming out early! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We're taking a corner regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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