PS17 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Let the rumor mill begin. Good god would this be amazing... https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Cleveland-Browns-John-Dorsey-fixated-on-Wyoming-Josh-Allen-113006621 Report: John Dorsey fixated on Carson 'Wentz reincarnated' Days ago, one NFC 'personnel guy' revealed that he believes the Cleveland Browns will select Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen with the No. 1 overall selection. MMQB's Peter King is hearing the same thing, and, for all we know, it could be the same source: "So in my rounds on the phone over the weekend, I heard this from a veteran college scout, a man who was one of the first to trumpet Carson Wentz as a high first-rounder during his final season at North Dakota State, on the fate of the first pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, and on what Cleveland GM John Dorsey might do: “I believe there is no way Cleveland, at number one, will pass on [Wyoming quarterback] Josh Allen. This is Wentz reincarnated. Allen’s a perfect Dorsey quarterback. Just watch.” Josh Allen, he of the very shaky senior season at Wyoming, the first overall pick four months from now. Hey, I’m just the messenger." Allen completed 152-of-270 passes for 1,812 yards, 16 touchdowns and six interceptions this season. He has declared for the 2018 NFL Draft. The Browns are loaded with the No. 1 and No. 4 overall selections as well as three second round picks. Most believe the team must take a quarterback early in the draft after passing on Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Hah ha ha.... in knew that teams would think this guy is the next wentz . We can only hope and pray this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Hah ha ha.... in knew that teams would think this guy is the next wentz . We can only hope and pray this is true. The guy who coached Wentz coaches this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 IF this happened and Rosen and Darnold both enter the draft, Indy at #3 will be the belle of the ball and their pick will become much more valuable. I would expect at least our #6, a 2nd rounder and next year's first rounder to move up and that's only if DEN or BUF don't trump that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The guy who coached Wentz coaches this guy Bill O'Brien coached Christian hackenburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Bill O'Brien coached Christian hackenburg. I’m not saying it’s right, it’s the reason why the Wentz comparison. Plus he had a solid bowl game. Mason Rudolph has had the best bowl game of any prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: IF this happened and Rosen and Darnold both enter the draft, Indy at #3 will be the belle of the ball and their pick will become much more valuable. I would expect at least our #6, a 2nd rounder and next year's first rounder to move up and that's only if DEN or BUF don't trump that. Buffalo’s picks are in the 20’s ..we have a way better shot. Denver scares me. Hope they grab a definite starter in FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Two birds with one stone. Pushes the legit QBs down a slot, and saves Maccagnan’s stupid ass from taking Allen himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Buffalo’s picks are in the 20’s ..we have a way better shot. Denver scares me. Hope they grab a definite starter in FA Denver is interested in Allen himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I don’t think the Bills trade up to the top ten. I think they take Rudolph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Denver is interested in Allen himself Paxton played well though. Wonder how they feel about him? He was a first rounder after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Paxton played well though. Wonder how they feel about him? He was a first rounder after all. Vance Joseph is staying. Maybe they don’t draft a QB after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Allen to Browns. Giants take an OT. We trade with the Colts and Mac has to make the decisions of a lifetime. F**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Also, I don't know how the Giants don't go QB at 2. I know they need OL help and Saquon would be a great player for them, but you have to expect that they won't ever be in a better spot to draft their future QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Also, I don't know how the Giants don't go QB at 2. I know they need OL help and Saquon would be a great player for them, but you have to expect that they won't ever be in a better spot to draft their future QB. I think Eli has a strong say in what their direction will be. If he's there, it could go OL if not then obviously a QB. He ideally wants to be a Giant till he retires and go out on top, of course. But he wouldn't want to be there just to be replaced in a year by a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If true call the Colts now offer them the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Two birds with one stone. Pushes the legit QBs down a slot, and saves Maccagnan’s stupid ass from taking Allen himself. When you say exactly what you mean it's hysterical and strange. It's like reading Catch 22 and then Popular Mechanics on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 So does this mean Dorsey is stupid now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Allen to Browns. Giants take an OT. We trade with the Colts and Mac has to make the decisions of a lifetime. F**** What decision run to the podium with the name Sam Darnold written on it in perfect cursive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, sourceworx said: So does this mean Dorsey is stupid now? He'll be a genius when he shocks the world and takes a QB at 1 AND 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: He'll be a genius when he shocks the world and takes a QB at 1 AND 4. That's what I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 It would be very Brownsy to pass on the real Carson Wentz and draft the fake one with #1 overall and he busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I bet after a few months the experts put the QBs that declare 1,2,3 This draft is shaping up to be very interesting and exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If the Browns were smart, if they really do love Allen, they would send the 1st pick to the highest bidder and take Allen at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 He's got a better chance with Hugh Jackson than our coaching staff, which sucks, but he needs a good coaching staff. He's got a completion percentage in the 50's playing in a garbage division. It's hard to believe it drastically improves in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: If the Browns were smart, if they really do love Allen, they would send the 1st pick to the highest bidder and take Allen at 4. Broncos could do that. Could also see the Giants trading down to 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: He's got a better chance with Hugh Jackson than our coaching staff, which sucks, but he needs a good coaching staff. He's got a completion percentage in the 50's playing in a garbage division. It's hard to believe it drastically improves in the NFL Hue Jackson is awful. I am not a Bowles fan, but I'd be apoplectic if Jackson was the Jets coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: If the Browns were smart, if they really do love Allen, they would send the 1st pick to the highest bidder and take Allen at 4. Problem is, if they really do love him - how do they know the Giants or another team willing to trade up doesn't love him too. You don't mess around with your QB - if you have a guy you "love" you do whatever you can to get him - and don't look back. It's just too damn important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 The only way we get a qb is trading for the 3 spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Larz said: I bet after a few months the experts put the QBs that declare 1,2,3 This draft is shaping up to be very interesting and exciting 1,2,3,4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Hue Jackson is awful. I am not a Bowles fan, but I'd be apoplectic if Jackson was the Jets coach. Not saying he's good. I'm saying as far as coaching a QB up he's better than our dumpster fire. Our second round draft pick couldn't get a series in yesterdays disaster which makes me wonder why he even has a roster spot if he's still that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, sourceworx said: So does this mean Dorsey is stupid now? LOL exactly what I was thinking, isn’t he the ‘genius’ we should be firing Maccagnan for?....the same genius who thought Kevin Hogan was the answer at QB? I’d take this report with a pinch of salt this far out from the draft but still deliciously hilarious. ‘The alternate view of course is that perhaps there’s a reason the Josh Allen keeps getting mentioned as at least a top 5 pick....maybe he’s not Hack 2.0 after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, redlichtie said: LOL exactly what I was thinking, isn’t he the ‘genius’ we should be firing Maccagnan for?....the same genius who thought Kevin Hogan was the answer at QB? I’d take this report with a pinch of salt this far out from the draft but still deliciously hilarious. ‘The alternate view of course is that perhaps there’s a reason the Josh Allen keeps getting mentioned as at least a top 5 pick....maybe he’s not Hack 2.0 after all And if Josh Allen ends up a good QB, we call Mac an idiot. Round and round we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: If the Browns were smart, if they really do love Allen, they would send the 1st pick to the highest bidder and take Allen at 4. Why would you risk losing the player that you ‘love’?....if you love that player, it’s a fair assumption other teams do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: When you say exactly what you mean it's hysterical and strange. It's like reading Catch 22 and then Popular Mechanics on the same day. That’s exactly the tone I’m going for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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