Gas2No99 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Questions emerge about Jets OC John Morton and his future There are rumblings around the league that John Morton may not fit into Todd Bowles' long-term plan -- and it seems some players would be OK with that. FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- One of the reasons why the New York Jets have struggled in recent years is because there has been no continuity on offense -- five coordinators in seven years. Could it be six in eight years in 2018? John Morton's future with the team is a story to watch in the offseason. His first season with the Jets -- and first as an NFL coordinator -- was respectable, considering it was a transition year for the offense, but there are rumblings around the league that he may not fit into Todd Bowles' long-term plan. The players also have mixed feelings about Morton. Some believe he tried to turn the Jets into the New Orleans Saints, his previous team. In other words, they felt he relied too heavily on the passing game. It came to light when running back Matt Forte publicly questioned the play calling after the Oct. 29 loss to the Atlanta Falcons. Privately, others complained, too. Even though the issue appeared to get resolved in the next game, it lingered and created tension in the offensive room, sources said. One player said there wouldn't be an overwhelming sense of disappointment if Morton didn't return. Would Bowles fire Morton after only one season? He may not have to. Let's play connect the dots. If Jon Gruden is hired by the Oakland Raiders, he could try to hire Morton for a position on his staff. The two men are extremely close. In fact, Morton got his first coaching job from Gruden, who hired him as a glorified go-fer for the Raiders in 2002. Gruden has a high regard for Morton. In an early-season interview, Gruden told ESPN, "(The Jets have) been putting some good things on tape, I know that. I've clipped out a few things they've done already that I'm going to try to steal for whatever I do in the future. Who knows?" Prophetic words, huh? Morton is under contract for 2018, meaning the Jets could prevent him from leaving for an assistant-coach position. Asked if he'd block Morton from leaving for the Raiders, Bowles said, "I don't deal with rumors. Until somebody talks to me worth something, I'll go from there." One player said he's convinced that Morton will wind up with the Raiders. Chances are, they wouldn't block him because it would allow Bowles to change coordinators without any bloodshed. It also would save ownership from having to pay the remainder of Morton's contract. Bowles is said to have his eye on Philadelphia Eagles quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo, whose contract is expiring. (and the initial interview request Bowles wanted LAST year as OC) You may recall Bowles tried to hire him last year for the coordinator job, but he was rebuffed because the Eagles declined permission. Once again, the road to DeFilippo won't be easy; he has emerged as a head-coaching candidate with the Arizona Cardinals and Chicago Bears. On Monday, Bowles praised Morton for the manner in which he integrated new players into his system. "I picked him for a reason," Bowles said. "He had some plays this year that were outstanding. He had some games that he called great. He had some games where he himself would tell you he'd like to have back. We were happy with John and everything he did this year. Obviously, we have to grow from there, but it takes all the coaches, not just one." Some league observers wonder if Bowles and Morton are a philosophical match. But starting over -- again -- would be another setback for the offense, which hasn't had the chance to grow in a specific system. Bowles downplayed that angle. "It's always good to have consistency and continuity, but in the NFL things change all the time and you have to be ready," Bowles said. "If you can keep the same scheme, that's great. If you have to change for whatever reason, we'll go from there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Best coach we've had in several years, in any capacity, so yea - makes perfect sense he'd be 1-and-done with this organization, while we make excuses for 1/2 decades at a time for the other losers that milk Johnson for paychecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 And here I felt Morton was doing a better job than Bowles. I'm surprised to hear the players or some of them anyway want him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Best coach we've had in several years, in any capacity, so yea - makes perfect sense he'd be 1-and-done with this organization, while we make excuses for 1/2 decades at a time for the other losers that milk Johnson for paychecks. Todd Bowles and the Jets are now the biggest idiots in all of sports not just the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, LIJetsFan said: And here I felt Morton was doing a better job than Bowles. I'm surprised to hear the players or some of them anyway want him gone. he probably makes them work hard. Can't do that and play like a fcukin Jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Oh great, Bowles thinks he calls too many pass plays? Maybe because 75% of the time our running games was hopeless. Lost count of how many times our backs were being hammered before even taking the hand off or Forte was looking like he was running in glue. Come on Todd, it’s not the 1950’s ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Best coach we've had in several years, in any capacity, so yea - makes perfect sense he'd be 1-and-done with this organization, while we make excuses for 1/2 decades at a time for the other losers that milk Johnson for paychecks. And meanwhile Kacy Rodgers probably gets a pay rise. It’s hard to argue the case for Bowles sometimes it really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Has anyone ever wondered how the Patsies have won so many Superbowls without having any sort of rushing threat whatsoever? Could it be that they've figured out that passing actually wins games? And what the hell os Forte crying about? Maybe if he represented any sort of threat out of the backfield he'd have the right to say something. I think Morton is the reason why the Jets won even five games. I would keep him over Bowles any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Only players that want him gone are RB’s. Give me a break, he tried to be the saints, yea that would be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We had to pass heavy. Our offensive line got no push all season and our running backs are mediocre. Bowles stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: he probably makes them work hard. Can't do that and play like a fcukin Jet Because everything about this team says they don't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: The players also have mixed feelings about Morton. Some believe he tried to turn the Jets into the New Orleans Saints, his previous team. Yes that would be terrible ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: Yes that would be terrible ugh Who did he think was Drew Bree's? Thats whats terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: Yes that would be terrible ugh Damn these coaches who dare to come in here and install a winning type offense.... damn them to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Freemanm said: Has anyone ever wondered how the Patsies have won so many Superbowls without having any sort of rushing threat whatsoever? Could it be that they've figured out that passing actually wins games? And what the hell os Forte crying about? Maybe if he represented any sort of threat out of the backfield he'd have the right to say something. I think Morton is the reason why the Jets won even five games. I would keep him over Bowles any day There’s this dude called Brady? Without him pats win zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said: And here I felt Morton was doing a better job than Bowles. I'm surprised to hear the players or some of them anyway want him gone. I guarantee you all those anonymous quotes came from Matt Forte, every single one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We need to get rid of this ******* clown Bowle, he is still trying to turn back the clock to 1988 Offensive football he is so ******* clueless it’s amazing how this is tolerated by management in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 So yeahhh...Bowles doesnt seem to like passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Matt39 said: So yeahhh...Bowles doesnt seem to like passing. The sky is blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Our future offense.....based on what Todd “we give up if we can’t win 6-3” Bowles so-called long-term-plan.....and the grumblings of Matt “last relevant in 2006” Forte, soon to be a FA. Jetsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I like when the writer of the article isn’t listed and I get the guess which sh#tbag of ours wrote it. This one is Dick Cimini, you can tell because he’s not a snarky as Manlove Mehta. Reporting dysfunction isn’t as celebrated in Dicks tone. I don’t believe these guys and their imaginary sources. If Matt Forte is upset because he’s not running the ball 8 more times a game for 3.2 yds a carry, doesn’t make him the consensus. I don’t even think they realize they steer the narrative. This place has really changed...some people just search for a reason to bitch and moan. If Morton goes to be with his bestie, then that’s a personal decision not an indictment on Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Imagine a player or coach or any staff for that matter whispering to Cimini, “f#ckin Morton, where does he think we are...New Orleans?!?!” Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said: And here I felt Morton was doing a better job than Bowles. I'm surprised to hear the players or some of them anyway want him gone. The guy who cleans the seats after games does a better job than Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Great vibe in the locker room tho everyone is on the same page ps hey prospective oc’s Come take this awesome career opportunity here’s your quarterback Billy Joe Tolliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Seems like Macc and Bowles are on a different wavelength (Bowles not playing the QB Macc picked in the 2nd round) and Bowles also has issues with Morton (who I'm assuming Bowles appointed). Stability! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Seems like Macc and Bowles are on a different wavelength (Bowles not playing the QB Macc picked in the 2nd round) and Bowles also has issues with Morton (who I'm assuming Bowles appointed). Stability! Gailey ran screaming, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Gailey ran screaming, too Extension for everyone, yeah!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Look what do you expect? Bowles was only able to get Morton to run the super dynamic run-run-screen/run-run dump off offense once Petty got in there but Petty clearly sucks at the first and second down handoff. No, he will get that fixed right quick for next year and run the 1960s era offense that is destined to succeed in the current NFL. Clearly. We are so blessed. Peace be to all P.S. I used a simple cipher for the word blessed. Here is the key: BL is F, E is U, and SS is obviously CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Now why would we hand over our offense of coordinator to a competitor? He is under contract, isn't he? Is there something I'm missing? Just because Chucky wants him doesn't mean Chucky gets him. Does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 bring in bruce arians if this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 LMAO...Now Bowles has a 'long term plan' for the Offense? Sometimes you just can't make this sh*t up. New HC Todd Bowles hires an old retread OC as his first OC, a guy that had been out of the league for a few years. His second OC hire was a young first time OC who once again, had been out of the league the previous year. By all measures I look at, Morton was a damn success this year...Morton was NOT the problem here. Why is it that the NYJ always seem to have players willing to throw coaches under the bus by supposedly blabbing to the press about their grievances with said coach? It is certainly not a sign of a well run organization, and that falls on Bowles. If Bowles was unhappy with Morton's play-calling, why didn't he just do it himself..he is the HC...I seem to remember Parcells doing this at least once if not more when unhappy with Henning and I think Weis? What a sh*tshow this team is. SMDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Outside of one random douchebag of a player running his mouth, the rest of this seems to be pure conjecture. Beyond that, everything else is based on some unnamed "around the league" (i.e., not with the Jets) source(s) who think they know what Bowles might think about someone else. Talk about reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: So yeahhh...Bowles doesnt seem to like passing. Bowles is the most conservative, scared coach in nfl. Passing is more high risk/high reward. So of course Bowles hates passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: So yeahhh...Bowles doesnt seem to like passing. A philosophical blockage, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, LIJetsFan said: And here I felt Morton was doing a better job than Bowles. I'm surprised to hear the players or some of them anyway want him gone. I could care less what Forte complains about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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