jetspenguin Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Funny how many people I see dont care how much it costs until he is eating up so much cap space that we cant put enough players around him to turn his stats to wins...we have a lot of money this year but that's not gonna last and if we are talking about a long term fix then we NEED to be looking at tomorrow as well as today.. I only want him if the price is right.....other than that he can take his stats to Denver and I wont shed a tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Mayfield has yet to play a snap in the NFL yet and he will start most likely right away while Kirk had 2 -3 years to sit. I’m not making stupid bets when one of the players involved in the bet hasn’t played pro ball yet. But I do believe in his ability to play pro ball and not only just play pro ball but the ability to play it better than Cousins. That’s my stance. Not saying it’s a crazy proclamation. I just rather take a shot on a younger option. I wouldn’t even b mad if we took Cousins but in my mind I’m more hopeful for Rosen or Baker so we can have them longer. Mayfield just lost the biggest game of his life and that was just college. You’re saying he might develop the will and knowledge required to win? That has never once happened. Losers are losers, he has proven he is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Mayfield just lost the biggest game of his life and that was just college. You’re saying he might develop the will and knowledge required to win? That has never once happened. Losers are losers, he has proven he is one. They didn’t lose because of him and you damn well know it. I’m not going for your troll sh*t today. Dead it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: He sounds more like a coach thats not going to provide statements that will be used against the organization during Negotiation. Thats something Rex Ryan would do. Was actually thinking that perhaps this was an attempt to deflate his price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: They didn’t lose because of him and you damn well know it. I’m not going for your troll sh*t today. Dead it. That’s a thing now! Does not matter - the guy proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he lacks a certain essence winners have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: That’s a thing now! Does not matter - the guy proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he lacks a certain essence that winners have. He tied the game up and then marched down the field to put them up by either a TD or a FG. What moment did he sputter in? Explain? Really do. Because you are clueless as hell if you are being serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: He tied the game up and then marched down the field to put them up by either a TD or a FG.m Then they proceded to lose. Like Cousins all he could do was compile up stats while ultimately his team lost. That is not a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Baker Mayfield is 53-12 as the Sooners Starter. Cut it the f*ck out. @SenorGato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Then they proceded to lose. Like Cousins all he could do was compile up stats while ultimately his team lost. That is not a winner. They lost because the idiot coach ran the same option play that didn’t work the entire game. Then they STILL could only of went up with the FG had it not been blocked. Mayfield put them in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Baker Mayfield is 53-12 as the Sooners Starter. Cut it the f*ck out. @SenorGato Quick, what was his postseason record?!? 1-2 in Bowls, losing both his first and his last - the two biggest games of his life. Like I said - guy has proven he does not know how to win on the big stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: Quick, what was his postseason record?!? 1-2 in Bowls, losing both his first and his last - the two biggest games of his life. Like I said - guy has proven he does not know how to win on the big stage. And 3-1 against SEC teams with NFL defenses. You cherry picking doesn’t mean anything to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: They lost because the idiot coach ran the same option play that didn’t work the entire game. Then they STILL could only of went up with the FG had it not been blocked. Mayfield put them in that position. Excuses excuses, but at the end of the day Mayfield’s team lost. He lost the most important game of his life - title for the second best team. Guy proved he cannot win on a bigger stage, just as fellow compiler Cousins did in his NFL playoff appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: And 3-1 against SEC teams with NFL defenses. You cherry picking doesn’t mean anything to me. It is 100% false those college teams fielded current NFL employees in 2017. That’s like me telling you that Cousins beat all time rosters in Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: It is 100% false those college teams fielded current NFL employees in 2017. That’s like me telling you that Cousins beat all time rosters in Madden. NFL caliber players. Yes. The whole D? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Excuses excuses, but at the end of the day Mayfield’s team lost. He lost the most important game of his life - title for the second best team. Guy proved he cannot win on a bigger stage, just as fellow compiler Cousins did in his NFL playoff appearance. To be fair, Mayfield has solidified himself as more of a winner than any other QB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Excuses excuses, but at the end of the day Mayfield’s team lost. He lost the most important game of his life - title for the second best team. Guy proved he cannot win on a bigger stage, just as fellow compiler Cousins did in his NFL playoff appearance. Yes. Bakler should have kicked that field goal. It was a give me. While he was at it he probably should have not called three back to back runs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Yes. Bakler should have kicked that field goal. It was a give me. While he was at it he probably should have not called three back to back runs either. Baker should definitely have set the edge better on that Sony Michel touchdown run. Matter fact, he should of set the edge better the entire game. He plays terrible defense, doesn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Baker should definitely have set the edge better on that Sony Michel touchdown run. Matter fact, he should of set the edge better the entire game. He plays terrible defense, doesn’t he? I think he sweated through his headband too. Not sure I want to draft a sweater like that. Lets stick with AARP members at QB. Experience and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: NFL caliber players. Yes. The whole D? No Oh OK, fellow compiler who can’t win big game Cousins does not see that? Advantage to compiler Baker? 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Baker should definitely have set the edge better on that Sony Michel touchdown run. Matter fact, he should of set the edge better the entire game. He plays terrible defense, doesn’t he? Defenses respond to their QB’s will. Do you think the Redskins D wanted to be scored on when Cousins lucked into the playoffs? No, but like Mayfield the compiler’s smoke and mirrors game got figured out on a bigger stage. Coaches took the ball out of Mayfield’s hands with kicks and runs? Surely the signs of a winner and not a compiler like his football cousin Kirk Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I think he sweated through his headband too. Not sure I want to draft a sweater like that. Lets stick with AARP members at QB. Experience and stuff. **** that, I’m almost two weeks older than him. sh*t’s just getting started mugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Grandy said: To be fair, Mayfield has solidified himself as more of a winner than any other QB in the draft. But this is the best QB class everz they promised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, SenorGato said: But this is the best QB class everz they promised It is. But according to you the 2012 draft was. That’s when your beloved Kirk Cousins was drafted right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Oh OK, fellow compiler who can’t win big game Cousins does not see that? Advantage to compiler Baker? Defenses respond to their QB’s will. Do you think the Redskins D wanted to be scored on when Cousins lucked into the playoffs? No, but like Mayfield the compiler’s smoke and mirrors game got figured out on a bigger stage. Coaches took the ball out of Mayfield’s hands with kicks and runs? Surely the signs of a winner and not a compiler like his football cousin Kirk Cousins. trolling but sucking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: trolling but sucking at. You might say I, like Cousins and Mayfield, am just compiling without winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: You might say I, like Cousins and Mayfield, am just compiling without winning. You aren’t even good at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: You aren’t even good at it You don’t have to be good to compile. Case in point big game losers Mayfield and Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Baker should definitely have set the edge better on that Sony Michel touchdown run. Matter fact, he should of set the edge better the entire game. He plays terrible defense, doesn’t he? So Baker can’t be held responsible for that loss, but Kirk Cousins is responsible for all of the losses in Washington? He doesn’t have to rely on a defense and specials? Baker Mayfield probably had more talent around him on offense than Cousins had in Washington, at least that was healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: So Baker can’t be held responsible for that loss, but Kirk Cousins is responsible for all of the losses in Washington? He doesn’t have to rely on a defense and specials? Baker Mayfield probably had more talent around him on offense than Cousins had in Washington, at least that was healthy. Yeah but Mayfield probably faced some NFL caliber players 4 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PS17 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm at the point where I don't give a sh*t. Just do anything to show you care about the most important position in sports. Sign Cousins. Draft Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield. Trade up/stay put at 6. Just f*cking get a legitimate quarterback in here now. And that does not mean Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, who I'd say is the odds on favorite to land in green and white, since he'd probably be the worst option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Btw if you wholesomly agree with the notion Baker is even slightly comparable to Manziel. You show me exactly what you know about QB evaluation. Coming from the guy who thinks $25 million is half of the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: And 3-1 against SEC teams with NFL defenses. You cherry picking doesn’t mean anything to me. What was Tim Tebow's record against SEC defenses? And it's still college ball, brah. Not an "NFL" defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Coming from the guy who thinks $25 million is half of the salary cap. I didn’t express it was a hyperbole already? You can’t read words and properly comprehend wtf u are reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: What was Tim Tebow's record against SEC defenses? And it's still college ball, brah. Not an "NFL" defense. Tim Tebow also was extremely inaccurate with a slow wind up. He wasn’t destined for Pro success. Mayfield has 70% completion percentage 3 years in a row. BRAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Tim Tebow also was extremely inaccurate with a slow wind up. He wasn’t destined for Pro success. Mayfield has 70% completion percentage 3 years in a row. BRAH Tim Tebow completed about 67% of his passes, brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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