SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Go ahead and post yours. The essentials: Kirk Cousins (6/$60m/$150m) with outs starting after 2019 Ryan Jensen (3-4/9-10/30-40) - Essentially a one year deal but he’ll probably survive The offensive splurges, come away with at least one: Sammy Watkins - No guess. $8 million a year, outs after 2018? I assume my #2 FA target, RB Bell, will be franchised. Jimmy Graham (5/25/50) outs start after 2019 If you land all four we’re probably looking at $60-$65 million of the $80+ million they have to spend. There is another $7 million to be had by cutting Forte and Powell, not hard to do. The Legend: Sebastian Janikowski (backup the truck) secretly my favorite player of all time CB: EJ Gaines - I assume something similar to what Watkins gets among these guys? Kyler Fuller also works Boil that list down and I think I go with (ages in parentheses): Cousins (30) Jensen (27) Watkins (25) Gaines (26) - Kyle Fuller is also 26. The Legend (40) Altogether looking at maybe $65-$72 million of the cap just on that group. Some smaller buys: Jordan Matthews Tyler Eifert - I would prioritize one of these two. Enormous upside, especially Eifert, and neither will not require a serious commit. Total spending: I’ll say $75 million in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The key is to not put us back into cap hell in another year or 2. I haven't followed his career that closely but Sammy Watkins doesn't sound bad, nor does Tyler Eifert. I'm leery of Cousins but I'll leave it up to Macc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The key is to not put us back into cap hell in another year or 2. Waaaaay more important is getting good players since they’re not particularly close to being in any cap trouble. That’s what the last two years were for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Waaaaay more important is getting good players since they’re not particularly close to being in any cap trouble. That’s what the last two years were for. Right now the only thing that is really important is solving the QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My wish list is that we stop signing free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 As long as we also address the rest of the o-line through the draft. Otherwise I think the focus should be Cousins and more o-line in FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No problem with Cousins, Jensen, Watkins and Fuller but there's no need to spend money on Graham & Janikowski. Take that $$$ and look for a "rising" free agent OLB and sign them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Allen Robinson - WR Dontari Poe - NT/DT Gotta try to upgrade the O line, but the market is thin Luke Joekel - G Brian Schwenke - C with a show me contract and also look for a C in the draft from round 3 on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Graham is 31 and needs to go to a contender for his last year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Sign Solder OT and Luke Joekel OG/OT, draft a QB at 6 and Mason Cole OC/Michigan in the 2nd. Resign Claiborne, Davis, Ealy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Allen Robinson - WR Dontari Poe - NT/DT Gotta try to upgrade the O line, but the market is thin Luke Joekel - G Brian Schwenke - C with a show me contract and also look for a C in the draft from round 3 on Both our starting guards are better then Luke Joekel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Ziggy Ansah Edge Rusher DE Trumaine Johnson CB Lev Bell RB (dude is just special, and different then any back I’ve ever seen) IF the 49ers are stupid enough to just slap the non exclusive version of the franchise tag on Jimmy G (unless the 49ers guarantee him 50+ million in the first 3 years I don’t see Jimmy G signing a contract for less as that’s the minimum guarantee for being franchised twice, and betting on yourself like Cousins has, and win that bet) the Jets need to submit an offer sheet he can’t refuse, AND put in a poison pill like we did with Curtis Martin, and make it impossible for the 49ers to match, I also this would be GREAT for the NFL as whole not just the Jets, the story line the rest of Brady’s career, and the games themselves VS the 2 games a year the Jets, and Pats becomes must see weekly press conferences, and must see games, and I’d guarantee every season one of them would be in prime time, it’s the first time something that could be beneficial QB wise to the Jets actually is also beneficial to the NFL as a whole, of course all of this is moot if the 49ers slap the much more expensive exclusive franchise tag as that prevents him from signing with any other team either sign the franchise tag, agree to a long term contract, or don’t play this is what the Redskins did with Cousins last season. Then I’d invest in someone like Allen Robinson at WR, and probably scrap the Lev Bell idea because they wouldn’t be able to afford all of this without a future cap hell season. sh*t scratch the poison pill idea, I figured the Jets could structure some kind of crazy deal where all his guaranteed money was applied to the 2018 salary cap making it impossible for most teams to be able to match, but I just found out the 49ers are projected to have more cap space then the Jets this offseason so there is basically no way to structure an unmatchable contract, but you could still try to place a crazy offer sheet that would have to make the 49ers seriously think about taking the 2 1st rounders one of them being 6th overall this season, and if Cousins is allowed to test the market the 49ers could fall back on him as their back up plan plus 2 1st round picks on top of Kirk Cousins. I’d really love to see Jimmy G beat Brady in a Jets uniform it would be so awesome to see Jimmy G take the torch from Brady forcefully as the AFC East QB who runs the yard a Jets QB finally being the guy who runs the AFC East is so overdue we have had to live through the Marino, Kelly, and Brady domination over the past 33 years 1 for each team in the AFC East not named the Jets, it’s our time to get THE MAN at QB! FYI Kirk Cousins is not that guy yes he is a good QB, but he is not the guy that has the capability to be THE MAN of the AFC East, or any other division in the NFL for that matter, and is not going to be worth the money should he be free to test the market. I know Jimmy G with the new revelation of 49ers Salary Cap space is now a pipe a dream unfortunately, but a guy could dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 and Oh yeah. It is a pipe dream but if the Steelers don't franchise him again or pay up on a mega deal, the Jets should break the bank to get Le'veon Bell. The guy wants to be paid and is a life long Jet fan. A rookie QB could ask for no better backfield-mate than Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Notable FA Signings QB Kirk Cousins CB Trumaine Johnson NT Dontari Poe DL Mitch Unrein (cheap Mo replacement) Notable Re-Signings ILB Demario Davis TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins Notable Cuts DL Muhammad Wilkerson CB Buster Skrine RB Matt Forte Draft (first 3 rounds) 1st round: OLB Arden Key - LSU 2nd round: C Frank Ragnow - Arkansas 2nd round: RB Sony Michel - Georgia 3rd round: OT Desmond Harrison - West Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Ziggy Ansah Edge Rusher DE Trumaine Johnson CB Lev Bell RB (dude is just special, and different then any back I’ve ever seen) Fine with the first two. Also we should re-sign Claiborne, Davis, and Ealy. We'd actually have a good-looking defense. Re-sign ASJ on offense. That would allow them to use the draft to concentrate on the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 53 minutes ago, BCJet said: Both our starting guards are better then Luke Joekel Joekel has just been riddled with too many injuries. I would slightly overpay a 1 year to put him in the mix and maybe see if can be moved back to T (RT) too, to compete with Beachum (who I'd move after signing Solder) and Shell. Infusing talent and competition along the OL would be #1 priority via FA since I'd be taking a QB at #6. I'd probably try and sign 3 or 4 total new OL and use a majority of spending on fixing it and adding a sh*t load of depth, including draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, BCJet said: Both our starting guards are better then Luke Joekel Disagree. The Jets O line graded very poorly this season on yards before contact on inside runs. While much of this can be blamed on Wesley Johnson, the Guards were not without fault. Joekel is a better run blocker than both. And while Winters played with an injury, he will need abdominal surgery this off-season, and I was never sold on him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No Cousins...I'm sorry....just no Cousins. Not for $25 million a year and a $50+ million signing bonus. I'd rather take our chances in the draft. As for the rest of FA - absolutely no one over the age of 30, preferably try to keep it to 28 and under. We're not in a position to win it all next year so no reason to sign guys that are on the downside of their careers. I'd rather roll cap space over for 2019 and if we think we will be close to making a playoff run in 2019, then sign some older vets to take us over the hump. I've always felt like the OL is one of the easiest things to fix in FA, so focus, to the extent players are available, in fixing the OL. Resign ASJ Resign Demario Davis If Lev Bell somehow gets cut lose, back up the truck. Maybe some DL depth and a CB Draft QB, OL, WR, DBs - a guy like Arden Key if we're not gonna reach for the QB at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Not exactly what I want to happen (not even sure I know what that is yet) but what I think will happen, Jets sign Cousins, Bell and Jensen. They resign the guys they want to keep and maybe sign another couple smaller name free agents. They go into the draft without nearly as much need. They can go OLB, or OT, or CB without any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: My wish list is that we stop signing free agents. Last time, I promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I think Watkins is a good target. He has underachieved and been hurt but he is only 24 or 25 i think and has talent. Too bad the oline crop is not good. i would go for Jensen or another center for sure. I would make a BIG play for Ziggy Ansah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I think Watkins is a good target. He has underachieved and been hurt but he is only 24 or 25 i think and has talent. Too bad the oline crop is not good. i would go for Jensen or another center for sure. I would make a BIG play for Ziggy Ansah 8 TDs in 39 receptions is no joke. He’s more than half a decade younger than my alternate TD catching FA too. I reeeeeeeeeaaaaalllly like Ansah but big money to another defensive star (3rd year in a row) is not appealing. Plus drafting a pass rusher is something even this FO should be able to catch onto by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: 8 TDs in 39 receptions is no joke. He’s more than half a decade younger than my alternate TD catching FA too. I reeeeeeeeeaaaaalllly like Ansah but big money to another defensive star (3rd year in a row) is not appealing. Plus drafting a pass rusher is something even this FO should be able to catch onto, just draft more explosive athletes. I do not think we can get a pass rusher of quality unless we use our 1st rounder. Ansah give us explosion instantly on the outside. Having said this I have zero confidence that bowles would use him correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I do not think we can get a pass rusher of quality unless we use our 1st rounder. Ansah give us explosion instantly on the outside. Having said this I have zero confidence that bowles would use him correctly I can understand the love for Ziggy but I gotta tell you I'm not sure this is the guy I want to give a big contract too. Injuries are the main reason. The guy is always banged up and does frequently miss games. Here's the Detroit beat writers take on him a little over a month ago: Detroit Lions: The end seems near for Ziggy Ansah by Forrester Solmen1 month agoFollow @fsolmen12 Tweet Share x Comment It’s been almost two seasons since Ziggy Ansah has been Pro Bowl worthy. Injuries might spell the end for him with the Detroit Lions. Four sacks in eight games isn’t unacceptable by any means. For Ziggy Ansah, it’s not too shabby. That’s twice as many sacks the Detroit Lions‘ defensive end had last season and that took 13 games to accumulate. Not only has the production been low, but his injuries are mounting. A nagging ankle hampered Ansah in 2016 and this season has been plagued by a knee issue. The past two games he’s been inactive with a bad back. With all the writing on the wall, it seems the Lions would be wise to let the soon to be 29 year old defense end walk in free agency. 2018 will yield a lot of cap space for the Lions, and they should spend it wisely. An aging defender with injury concerns and limited production isn’t worth the money. Players like Anthony Zettel, who leads the Lions in sacks with 6.0, and Cornelius Washington, who just collected 2.0 sacks in his first start against the Cleveland Browns, are coming to form. This doesn’t include Kerry Hyder, who is out the entire year with an Achilles injury. He led the Lions with eight sacks in 2016. With the draft coming up, cheaper veteran free agent defensive ends who are designated pass rushers and younger less-expensive options under contract, Ansah looks like a lost cause. If he awakens in the last portion of the season, that will make things complicated for the Lions. Golden Tate still needs an extension and plenty of other players set to become free agents require the Lions attention. Next: How many games must the Lions win for a postseason return? The 2018 offseason will be another important one for Bob Quinn and company. Should Ansah leave come seasons end, hopefully he can get healthy and increase productivity in the meantime. Ziggy has gotten hot at the end of the season with 6 sacks in two games but it seems like window dressing to me. He just seems like the wrong guy to give a big money deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'd also cut Carpenter and sign Andrew Norwell, sign Solder, move Beachum to RT, Draft Mason Cole. Sign Jensen, Joekel, Warmack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 There for sure is always a risk with some FAs re injury, its a tough call but potential impact pass ushers do not make it to FA if they are healthy and putting up 15 sacks a year. this is one reason we need to realize that Fa will not solve a lot of problems on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: I can understand the love for Ziggy but I gotta tell you I'm not sure this is the guy I want to give a big contract too. Injuries are the main reason. The guy is always banged up and does frequently miss games. Here's the Detroit beat writers take on him a little over a month ago: Detroit Lions: The end seems near for Ziggy Ansah by Forrester Solmen1 month agoFollow @fsolmen12 Tweet Share x Comment It’s been almost two seasons since Ziggy Ansah has been Pro Bowl worthy. Injuries might spell the end for him with the Detroit Lions. Four sacks in eight games isn’t unacceptable by any means. For Ziggy Ansah, it’s not too shabby. That’s twice as many sacks the Detroit Lions‘ defensive end had last season and that took 13 games to accumulate. Not only has the production been low, but his injuries are mounting. A nagging ankle hampered Ansah in 2016 and this season has been plagued by a knee issue. The past two games he’s been inactive with a bad back. With all the writing on the wall, it seems the Lions would be wise to let the soon to be 29 year old defense end walk in free agency. 2018 will yield a lot of cap space for the Lions, and they should spend it wisely. An aging defender with injury concerns and limited production isn’t worth the money. Players like Anthony Zettel, who leads the Lions in sacks with 6.0, and Cornelius Washington, who just collected 2.0 sacks in his first start against the Cleveland Browns, are coming to form. This doesn’t include Kerry Hyder, who is out the entire year with an Achilles injury. He led the Lions with eight sacks in 2016. With the draft coming up, cheaper veteran free agent defensive ends who are designated pass rushers and younger less-expensive options under contract, Ansah looks like a lost cause. If he awakens in the last portion of the season, that will make things complicated for the Lions. Golden Tate still needs an extension and plenty of other players set to become free agents require the Lions attention. Next: How many games must the Lions win for a postseason return? The 2018 offseason will be another important one for Bob Quinn and company. Should Ansah leave come seasons end, hopefully he can get healthy and increase productivity in the meantime. Ziggy has gotten hot at the end of the season with 6 sacks in two games but it seems like window dressing to me. He just seems like the wrong guy to give a big money deal too. Totally agree!!! And this year he got 9 of his 12 sacks in only three games one was against NYG. Also he's going to be 29 before the start of next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, HessStation said: I'd also cut Carpenter and sign Andrew Norwell, sign Solder, move Beachum to RT, Draft Mason Cole. Sign Jensen, Joekel, Warmack. Norwell is the best OL (Guard) on the market. Good at both Run-blocking and Pass-protection, he would be an anchor in the OL and a substantial talent upgrade. I'm not sure how much Solder has left in the tank and I'd hate to overpay for him so I wouldn't chase too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Sammy Watkins would be a great addition. He's a star caliber receiver who is lost in a loaded offense in LA. He would have been so much better with the Bills as well if there was more of a focus put on offense under Rex when he came into the league IMO. With a quality QB he could explode. I'd love to pair him with Robby Anderson with Kearse in the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, SenorGato said: Last time, I promise! So glad we finally have a GM who builds through the draft (except when he doesn’t) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Ansah's season: http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/15785/ezekiel-ansah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 ASJ and Davis - If it were practical there’d be maybe 3 players from the 2017 roster on the 2018 roster. Voluntarily resigning players from this roster when the universe herself was offering a pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: So glad we finally have a GM who builds through the draft (except when he doesn’t) Like Theo Epstein said - dual fronts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Like Theo Epstein said - dual fronts! For sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Are any of the Patriots' referees a FA this year? We should sign as many of them as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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