SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If we either get FA QB or high draft pick, hopefully re-sign McCown (NO ONE is offering McCown starting gig, he will get a lot of "You can compete" offers) and a 3rd QB beng 1- if we get FA a later Rd pick (rd 2-4) or if we draft a guy at 6, tak ea flyer on kid they like in Rds 4-6? I dont think we see Petty or Hack back next year if McCown resigns. They never dress, so time to hit reset w/a flyer who may turn out more than the 2 tarnished turds we have now at #3QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Yes Petty did nothing promising or worth keeping around and Hackenberg should be gone also if a QB isn't ready to play or at least see the field and attempt to play in 2 years they why bother wasting a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Yes Petty did nothing promising or worth keeping around and Hackenberg should be gone also if a QB isn't ready to play or at least see the field and attempt to play in 2 years they why bother wasting a roster spot. Hi man, been awhile. You speaketh the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Hi man, been awhile. You speaketh the truth Welcome back! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Hack because he still has time. 22-23 years old. He will be as old as some rookie QBs next season. How does it hurt the Jets to see if he develops this coming offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, RESNewYork said: Hack because he still has time. 22-23 years old. He will be as old as some rookie QBs next season. How does it hurt the Jets to see if he develops this coming offseason? Are you kidding me? Why keep a player who couldn't beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick,Josh McCown and Bryce Petty? COME ON MAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 both should for sure be gone because the team has ZERO faith in them at all. Hack will probably be here just to save face for the GM. We'll see if this team is serious about the overall Qb position if they clean house totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No. Only Petty should be gone. Although he had some "flashes" he just did not show enough. Unfortunately he was not given enough live playing time to try to work through that Keep Hack but don't keep him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Hack because he still has time. 22-23 years old. He will be as old as some rookie QBs next season. How does it hurt the Jets to see if he develops this coming offseason? You develop really well be running the other teams scout team for two years. You can blame hack or you can blame the team but he is a monumental bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Petty should be gone, no question. 3 full seasons in the league and he still looks completely lost. I don’t mind if they keep Hack as the #3. As has been said before, he’s only going to be 23 years old next season. He still has two years left on a cheap rookie deal and despite being overdrafted, he’s the exact type of QB you want as your #3 developmental guy. Big, strong, smart and a huge arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Hack because he still has time. 22-23 years old. He will be as old as some rookie QBs next season. How does it hurt the Jets to see if he develops this coming offseason? 3rd string Qbs are meaningless, Id rather have Hack who has been in the building for 2 years in that role in the .1% chance he can continue to "develop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: both should for sure be gone because the team has ZERO faith in them at all. Hack will probably be here just to save face for the GM. We'll see if this team is serious about the overall Qb position if they clean house totally. this is a great point. It will show if Mac had balls to say "I f'ed up" we are moving on. Best #3 aka Scout QBs are 1- smart to absorb opponenets playbook in 2 days and young guys who can run well and play ProStyle ball. That way they can simulate any upcoming QB's tendencies and a teams system. If they may develop some day all the better, but rare. if Hack can run maybe keep him, if he cant, then draft a flyer in 5th-6th round who can run and play from Pocket. Hopefully a coaches son to boot. means their noses in playbooks their whole lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Petty for sure. Hack will stay because macc will never admit he srewed up with him. I'm betting if the Jets get well at QB next season Hack will quietly be gives his pink slip.....when no one will really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Petty should be gone, no question. 3 full seasons in the league and he still looks completely lost. I don’t mind if they keep Hack as the #3. As has been said before, he’s only going to be 23 years old next season. He still has two years left on a cheap rookie deal and despite being overdrafted, he’s the exact type of QB you want as your #3 developmental guy. Big, strong, smart and a huge arm. I'd do that. He knows the offense (hopefully) better than any other 3rd string QB, and you can't find one any cheaper than the guy on his rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Yes - both should be gone. The only purpose they serve at this point is to feed the fans who think they need to develop or 'have potential'. Time for the Jets to just admit their mistake, admit they have nothing at QB right now, and turn the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 They both need to be gone. They can both be replaced by literally ANYONE with no drop off in value. If for no other reason, it sends a signal to the rest of the team that all players will be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I am in favor of cutting them both but that is not what I expect the Jets to do... petty is gone, not totally his fault as a 4th round pick, but he has had a chance and the Jets cannot burn two roster spots on developmental QB's for 3 years straight - that spot is too valuable hack counts $1.27m of the cap next year if he is on the team and $794k in dead money if he is cut so basically costs $476k to keep him on the team - money that could be spent on another player but it is not alot for Mac to try and save face so I think it is very possible he battles for the 3rd spot. In 2019 there is $1m in cap savings so this would be hacks last chance If Morton leaves - all bets are off and they should both be cut with no attempt to resign McCown - let the new OC start fresh with his type of QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Petty will be 27. He has no promise. A low ceiling. Cut your losses. Hack probably has one more year to show at the least improvement. Then he’s gone. But as far as 2018 offseason goes..get rid of Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Yes I am but Hack will be here for another year or so. Then he will be out of football. Macc won't let him go till he has a guy in his stead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 They should both be gone, we should purge all of our QB's and start anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 One of them (preferably Petty) should be gone. You need a body to be the third string QB. Why go out and spend for one when you have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Cut Petty, shoulda traded him when teams were asking for him. Keep Hack because of age and the fact they didn’t even let him practice basically in 2016. What did Morton say? This was “basically his rookie year...” not making excuses but the Jets did him no favors. Keep him, hope for a miracle, but don’t expect one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: this is a great point. It will show if Mac had balls to say "I f'ed up" we are moving on. Best #3 aka Scout QBs are 1- smart to absorb opponenets playbook in 2 days and young guys who can run well and play ProStyle ball. That way they can simulate any upcoming QB's tendencies and a teams system. If they may develop some day all the better, but rare. if Hack can run maybe keep him, if he cant, then draft a flyer in 5th-6th round who can run and play from Pocket. Hopefully a coaches son to boot. means their noses in playbooks their whole lives. aren't they moving away from wilky? i get your point but so far mac hasn't been shy about getting rid of bad players, even ones he's had a hand in. coples, shelly, pryor, gilchrist, revis and now wilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Draft a quarterback (Lamar Jackson) resign McCown or another veteran stopgap. Let Petty and Hackenberg compete for the backup spot. The loser gets cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 IF they draft a young qb and bring back a McCown type then I’d let petty go and keep hack. 3rd qb is still a needed body, why not keep a guy who has a chance ( a very very very minimal chance, but a chance) to actually develop into something worth having, as that body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Are you kidding me? Why keep a player who couldn't beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick,Josh McCown and Bryce Petty? COME ON MAN Like I said in the post you quoted, because 22-23 years old. He will be as old as some rookie QBs next season. I don't know too many players who are a finished product by that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 YES GONE ALL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No. I am in favor of cutting Petty, retaining Hack, signing a FA QB (not McCown) and drafting a QB in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: You develop really well be running the other teams scout team for two years. You can blame hack or you can blame the team but he is a monumental bust. Monumental bust is overly dramatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No. They had a plan with Hack and they need to see it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, rangerous said: aren't they moving away from wilky? i get your point but so far mac hasn't been shy about getting rid of bad players, even ones he's had a hand in. coples, shelly, pryor, gilchrist, revis and now wilk. yup, but ultimate balls is when a GM drops a high picked QB after only 2 years. Being he was 2nd rounder, I think Mac does it and opens a spot on roster for a "maybe". jets dont seem to think Hack is a maybe anymore (we would have seen him last few games if only in 4th Qtr. if they did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I can't begin to fathom a reason to keep either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I've never been more sure of cutting them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bowles talked about Hack like he is coming back. He didn't say anything that I heard about Petty. Bowles also said he would like it if McCown returned but prefaced it. Basically a Qb Room before the season starts is usually four guys going into preseason. We had 3 Qbs on the active roster in 2017. You would think if we draft a Qb and sign a FA (who could be McCown) that adds up to four. We also have Joel Stave who we just re-signed. Wouldn't it be a kick if he ended up our starting Qb. Look, there could be a market for Petty so maybe Mac could get something for him in return but probably not a 2018 draft pick. He would get a conditional pick. So I don't cut these guys at most I make a deal for Petty. PS if Hack doesn't ramp it up they will probably cut him after pre-season and at the most PS him. Either that or a clean break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Petty was the worst Jets QB I watched in the last 20 years. Yes gone. Hack I still have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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