Ghost Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'm going to catch a tremendous amount of heat for this, but lately, I been thinking of the idea of Barkley being on The New York Jets. I have never been a fan of taking RBs in the Top 10 due to the history of finding productivity from RBs in the later rounds. I still believe we should draft a QB with our 1st pick, but this is a guy with TREMENDOUS talent. I look at Zeke, Fournette, Gurley who all been drafted Top 10 in the last 3 drafts and they all look amazing. Gurley, IMO, should be the MVP of the league. Take this anyway you'd like: Barkley and I have mutual friends. We are from the same town called Whitehall, PA. Both went to the same high school. I do not know him, but we have mutual friends who tell me he would love to play for the Jets. They also tell me he wants to stay close to home. It takes me about 90 minutes to get to Metlife, so I can see why he would want to play here. Just a thought. I still think we should draft a QB, but the idea of Barkley back there is pretty exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I think it all depends if Cousins winds up a Jet, which is unlikely. If we do end up with Cousins, I'd love to grab Barkley, it would give us an amazing offensive combo. Barkley is extremely talented, and would be a great Jet. The only other arguement is the fact RB's are easy to find later on in the draft, and is not usually a position you use a high pick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 You will catch heat rightfully so, Ghost. this is a VERY strong RB class. Bryce Love is a runner up Heisman 100+ yards 10 out of 11 games. Nick Chubb/Sony Michel are absolute MONSTERS and will go in the second round. Justin Jackson is a greatly productive RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If I'm the Giants I stick with Eli, draft Barkley, sign Solder, Norwell resign Pugh and Richburg draft LBs and go for another SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I love Barkley...but this “generational” RB bullsh*t seems like it’s been going on every year for the last half decade. First it was Richardson, then it was Gurley, then it was Elliott, then it was Fournette and now it’s Barkley. I think he’s the closest thing to LaDainian Tomlinson since LaDainian Tomlinson. I was a huge fan of Fournette last year and wanted either him or Adams at #6. But then we just saw 2 3rd round picks in Hunt and Kamara have even more impressive rookie campaigns. If we sign Cousins, I say take the best available passrusher or OL at #6. If we don’t sign Cousins, then you have to take a QB. Either at #6 or by trading up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Barkley looks very good but the need is greater at other positions. If we don't go QB, then I think they will go defense again. Our defense has some young pieces in place and needs to find a stud pass rusher. They can address the o line in FA and later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Barkley's a great prospect, but the Jets need a QB much more than a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpoppy717 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Think it will be a moot point as I don't think he lasts to 6 and don't think Jets or anyone should trade up for an RB. But if he's there at 6 I'd be in favor of drafting him - especially because that probably means at least 3 or 4 QBs already taken, and we may not have one of our top choices available anymore. Special talent similar (in ability, not type) to other recent high drafted RBs who have had big impacts (Gurley, Fournette, Elliot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Barkley had huge hype going into this year and was not that great in too many games for me to be on his bandwagon. He is good and is probable the #1 back but as others have said this draft is loaded with good backs, just loaded. I still like the dude from USC, Jones. Just has looked very good each and every game i watched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I love Barkley...but this “generational” RB bullsh*t seems like it’s been going on every year for the last half decade. First it was Richardson, then it was Gurley, then it was Elliott, then it was Fournette and now it’s Barkley. I think he’s the closest thing to LaDainian Tomlinson since LaDainian Tomlinson. I was a huge fan of Fournette last year and wanted either him or Adams at #6. But then we just saw 2 3rd round picks in Hunt and Kamara have even more impressive rookie campaigns. If we sign Cousins, I say take the best available passrusher or OL at #6. If we don’t sign Cousins, then you have to take a QB. Either at #6 or by trading up. To be fair, all three of these guys have made their teams significantly better. Then again, so have guys like Kamara/Hunt so you could definitely still make the case for taking RBs late, but there has definitely been a resurgence of great RBs. Barkley is beyond amazing. I am a PSU fan and he is a freak of nature. Great speed, breaks tackles, leaps over tackles, catches out of the backfield like a WR. Played hurt for most of 2016 and showed me something when he decided to play in the Bowl game (while others like Fournette choose not to) He is worthy of the #1 pick in the draft, but will never be as valuable as a franchise QB so he could slip a couple of spots. Since the Colts already have Luck, I don't see how falls past 3. As for Richardson, I never value Bama RBs too high mainly because they ALWAYS play behind mammoth Olines that are always more talented then their opponents thereby giving the RBs a HUGE advantage. Ingram has turned out OK, but guys like Richardson/Lacy/Yeldon end up being overvalued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 This Barley talks reminds me of how terribly mediocre the generational talent of Leonard Fournettee was this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Barkley only had over 100 yards in 5 of 13 games (this includes the bowl game). He looks spectacular at times but can for sure be shut down. Too much draft capital to use on him when other backs you will get in the 2nd round or later. (And I am not the type to use that tired cliche that you can get a back anywhere.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Barkley had huge hype going into this year and was not that great in too many games for me to be on his bandwagon. He is good and is probable the #1 back but as others have said this draft is loaded with good backs, just loaded. I still like the dude from USC, Jones. Just has looked very good each and every game i watched him. Like I was saying before, the PSU oline was pretty bad opening holes. Teams were stacking the box and forcing Mcsorley to beat them (which he did pretty often). Barkley still produced great numbers and is going to be a great NFL back, Jones is a nice back as well, same as Guice, Love, Johnson, Chubb, Michael, Wadley etc.. It's a very deep draft and we have 2 2nd round picks. If we don't get Barkley (which I doubt we will) I could definitely see us landing one of those guys in the 2nd to pair with Mcguire in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, JiF said: This Barley talks reminds me of how terribly mediocre the generational talent of Leonard Fournettee was this season. Todd Gurley was awful last year also, thanks to a bad offense and teams stacking the box. This year, Gurley is a superstar because the offense is better. Fournette is a beast and managed 1000 yards in 13 games despite stacked boxes and having Bortles as his QB. Fournette also played hurt a couple of times this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Todd Gurley was awful last year also, thanks to a bad offense and teams stacking the box. This year, Gurley is a superstar because the offense is better. Fournette is a beast and managed 1000 yards in 13 games despite stacked boxes and having Bortles as his QB. Fournette also played hurt a couple of times this year. Fournette is a perfectly mediocre RB that takes what the OL gives him and nothing more. But sure whatever you say Mr. I know everything about college Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 While I'm not hung up on positional value in the draft to the same extent of some others around here, I definitely understand it, and I can freely admit, outside of special teams, RB is the one position I feel is simply not worth that level of investment, and especially not for a team that isn't ready to win right now. The bottom line more than anything is RB has far and away the shortest longevity of any position in football. While a top RB may be able to overcome some deficiencies of the OL, it is the latter which is the far more important concern, given it's impact on the passing game. With a strong enough line, you can easily get by with a second tier RB at a substantially lower cost. Just look at the Jets years of sporting running games near the top of the league with the likes of second hand vets like Thomas Jones and Chris Ivory. It can be worth it to some teams, if they think he can truly be a difference maker for them to go that extra step, and most specifically within the span of the rookie contract. For a rebuilding team, you're looking for long-term investments and a RB is very rarely going to be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If he’s there at 6 we should take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'd much rather Nelson and Michel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, JiF said: Fournette is a perfectly mediocre RB that takes what the OL gives him and nothing more. But sure whatever you say Mr. I know everything about college Football. Not everything, just more than you. As for Fournette, he isn't a Barry Sanders type. He is a straight ahead runner, that has good hands and can plow over RBs and for a big man, can make guys miss. He isn't the type of guy that is going to dance around in the backfield and completely change directions when the Oline creates zero holes. Again, Gurley last year averaged 3.2 YPC. You probably thought he sucked and then this year happened and he is an elite RB again. What changed? Did he forget how to be a RB last year or did the Oline create more holes this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 To me the great running back is still a valuable asset to a team. If the Jets believe Barkley is a great player then I would have no problem with the Jets drafting him. Look at a guy like Bell with the Steelers, that guy bails Big Ben out so much now that he's older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Don't forget this guy... #5 in the Heisman voting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 He’s the best college back I’ve seen since Faulk, Petersen Better than Fournette, Gurley, Elliot. But did you see Michel the other day, and he’s what the 6th, 7th ranked rb in the class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If we traded down for more picks and took him around #12 maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Jets should be deciding between a QB and a pass rusher in the first. There will be a couple great RBs to choose from in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: I'd much rather Nelson and Michel. I’d love it if we traded down got an extra early pick and drafted Nelson but taking a OG at 6 would be tough to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: I’d love it if we traded down got an extra early pick and drafted Nelson but taking a OG at 6 would be tough to sell. Cousins will do the selling. No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 When you're willing to draft a strong safety at 6, I wouldn't say a running back is off limits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, slats said: Jets should be deciding between a QB and a pass rusher in the first. There will be a couple great RBs to choose from in the second. Besides maybe 2010 (maybe 2011) couldn't we have said this every year for the past 15 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, slats said: Jets should be deciding between a QB and a pass rusher in the first. There will be a couple great RBs to choose from in the second. If not a QB, I am thinking maybe it's time to invest in the next D'Brick. Whether it's Williams or McGlinchey, if you think can get a decade worth of high impact at the LT position, I think you grab it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Penn State RB Saquon Barkley to be represented by Roc Nation Jay Z's Roc Nation Sports has signed the top college running back available for this year's NFL draft. Penn State's Saquon Barkley told ESPN on Wednesday he had signed with the company. "It was a really easy decision," Barkley said. "A lot of people came around my way, but they were focused on me and they did a great job at selling my family on setting me up for life, bringing value outside of football. I felt like it was harder for other agencies to pitch that family feel when they were working with 30 or 40 guys." In its nearly five years in business, Jay Z's sports representation business has managed to score big names by picking out only a few players to try to land in each class. That has, for the most part, worked. Scoring Barkley means that Jay Z's sports agency has nabbed one of the top running backs in three of the past four draft classes. In 2015, the agency signed Todd Gurley, who went 10th overall to the Rams, and C.J. Prosise, who was picked 90th overall by the Seattle Seahawks. Last year, Roc Nation Sports signed LSU running back Leonard Fournette, who was selected by the Jacksonville Jaguars with the fourth pick. Barkley, the top-rated player on Mel Kiper's Big Board, is leaving the school after a junior season that yielded 1,271 rushing yards and 18 rushing touchdowns, including last week's bowl game against the University of Washington. He announced he was going pro on Dec. 31, the next day. Barkley and his family were invited to Jay Z's home in Los Angeles this week, where the two talked about his business future. "I'm obviously a big fan of his," Barkley said. "He is a wise man, has a lot of knowledge and gives good advice." Barkley will be represented by Roc Nation's Kim Miale, who also represents Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant, among others. "We think he's the best player in this draft, and we're thrilled he became part of our family," Miale said. If Barkley goes first overall, he would be the first Nittany Lions player to hold that distinction since defensive end Courtney Brown was drafted first in 2000 by the Cleveland Browns, who also have this year's top pick after going 0-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Not everything, just more than you. As for Fournette, he isn't a Barry Sanders type. He is a straight ahead runner, that has good hands and can plow over RBs and for a big man, can make guys miss. He isn't the type of guy that is going to dance around in the backfield and completely change directions when the Oline creates zero holes. Again, Gurley last year averaged 3.2 YPC. You probably thought he sucked and then this year happened and he is an elite RB again. What changed? Did he forget how to be a RB last year or did the Oline create more holes this year? Cool story, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, nycdan said: If not a QB, I am thinking maybe it's time to invest in the next D'Brick. Whether it's Williams or McGlinchey, if you think can get a decade worth of high impact at the LT position, I think you grab it. That's the benefit of signing Cousins. You get your QB and still have the top pick to snag a great OT prospect that will be around for Cousins and his potential successor in 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 We need playmakers, I’d be very happy with this kid being our pick. He’d be the best available player no doubt if he’s still there @6. But I don’t think he’ll get past the Browns at #4. still, it’s waaaay to early for kick drafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Love Barkley but how much better pro will he be than Love, Michel, and a few other top backs. Macc better not f*ck this up, its QB/LT/Pass rusher at #6 depending on what we do in free agency. Now if we didn't have 2 second rounders & Barkleys staring at you after signing Cousins, then he's tough to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My first choice is our own QB via draft. But if we sign Cousins however, it would be great if Barkley was still available around pick 10-12. We could trade down, get him, add another pick, get 2x Oline. The above added to Ryan Jensen plus some Corner help would have me beaming. Cousins Barkley Ryan Jensen 2 x High pick Oline Plus some free agency Corner help. Can only dream............but this is a real interesting time for the Jets. We really have the chance to become much better in a real hurry. EDIT : I also agree with you can get as much or more value at running back in lower rounds. There's just so many ways to cut it this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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