kevinc855 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! Mayfield >>> Petty and this is coming from a Mayfield critic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigRy56 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Not even remotely comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! I agree Petty has not played well . but he's had what a sum total of 6 NFL real games . I bet you Rams fans said similiar things about Goff last year . I get it, the Jets haven't had a franchise QB since Namath but there's so much over reaction by Jet fans about Qb's its almost funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! It is impossible for anyone to see the NFL more differently from me than you. You embrace mediocrity. I could pick out you posts without seeing your name. There is not even a point here other than I guess you dont like Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! Mayfield has leadership issues? Where have you seen that? Everything I have read his team mates love him. There is no comparison between Petty's and Mayfield's style of play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot He's 6'1". And if he's not, the Combine will prove it. 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: and seems to have leadership issues What issues? 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? Is it a thing in Georgia? His team scored 46 against them. 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! So you looked at an exceptionally shallow analysis and said "Petty = Mayfield". And we need to look deeper. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: He's 6'1". And if he's not, the Combine will prove it. What issues? Is it a thing in Georgia? His team scored 46 against them. So you looked at an exceptionally shallow analysis and said "Petty = Mayfield". And we need to look deeper. Gotcha. His height check will have a lot of people watching. He has been listed all over the place. People started averaging out the sites and saying he is 6'1 If he measures in at 6'1" he is in good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: His height check will have a lot of people watching. He has been listed all over the place. People started averaging out the sites and saying he is 6'1 If he measures in at 6'1" he is in good shape. Mayfield's height and Darnold's hands will be the two big (or too small) measurements coming out of the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 But can he jump out of a swimming pool? Because that would erase any doubts. And don't forget the boar-hunting competition. Huge correlation to NFL success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! The life ruining long term side effects of “Jetting Up” for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I think a little exaggeration calling Petty worst Jet QB's in history- no Mayfield I would not be unhappy if we took him- sometimes you have take a risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 If Darron Lee is 6-1 so is Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 For anyone who even remotely thinks this comparison is legitimate, I really suggest checking out draftbreakdown.com and watch some of Mayfield's cutups and keep Petty's last few performances in your mind when you do. Petty is one of the most uncoordinated elite athletes I have ever seen. His arms and legs are routinely not even going in the same direction, which is why he is not only moderately inaccurate but why he routinely misses WIDE OPEN receivers (remember ASJ in week 16???). Watching him the last 3 weeks i actually thought he was injured, given how bad his footwork and body control was. They say a QB needs to marry his feet and arms - well petty had the most awkward body control into his delivery I have ever seen. Mayfield is an excellent athlete. Watch him when things like high snaps happen - not only does he seamlessly catch the ball, but he also is quickly moving and getting his head upfield. He moves effortlessly in the pocket and can routinely change his arm angles (very similar to Mahomes - whose throwing motion was also questioned regardless of his accuracy). He's short yet rarely gets balls knocked down and moves behind the LOS while keeping his eyes constantly downfield. He isn't fast, yet is an excellent runner, finding lanes etc. I dont know if Mayfield is gonna make it in the pros. Maybe he doesn't study enough (I personally dont think you could go through progressions as fast as he does without studying, but who knows). Maybe his attitude will get him into trouble. But what I do know is he is NOTHING like Bryce Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: If Darron Lee is 6-1 so is Mayfield. I bet Mayfield would be a better LB than Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I remember when scouts didn't like Aaron Rodgers because he came from the same system as Harrington and Boller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I look at Mayfield as a slightly taller, stronger Doug Flutie with a quicker release. If that's the case, he's gonna be fun to watch if you surround him with some talent and his confidence soars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Like, this coulda gotten the nom for, Worst Thread Started in 2017, but 4 days late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I find it amusing because many of you were the footballl geniuses saying”play petty” all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I find it amusing because many of you were the footballl geniuses saying”play petty” all year Now keep thinking through it a little more. WHy play Petty? Look deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, HessStation said: Now keep thinking through it a little more. WHy play Petty? Look deeper Fugeddaboutit. He’s too jetted up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I find it amusing because many of you were the footballl geniuses saying”play petty” all year And the fact that youre too ******* retarded to realize WHY is like, super fantastic amusing..... Jet up, you stupid ****. Swear to God this trolling genius has GOT to be a Pats fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, nycdan said: But can he jump out of a swimming pool? Because that would erase any doubts. And don't forget the boar-hunting competition. Huge correlation to NFL success. Or the bench press reps - good ol Vern Gholston was a beast at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 You do bring up an interesting topic of who is the worst Jet quarterback of all time. I only remember as far back as Browning Nagle, who was p*ss poor. Bubby Brister, for me, holds a special place in the pantheon of sh*te Jets qbs. Savage could likely educate me on worse Jets qbs. Christian Hackenberg not taking the field for a regular season game for two years after been drafted in the second round, is an obvious dark horse candidate for worse Jets qb of all time. Although, I expect you have to actually throw a regular season pass to truly qualify for worse Jets QB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Forget that the guy is not even six foot and seems to have leadership issues but let’s examine his play....in the BIg 12!!! You understand defense is not a thing in this league right? If you look at petty last 2 season guy had over 8000 yards over 60tds and 10 ints. Yet he has turned out to be one of the worst jet qbs in history. So I caution mayfield and being seduced by his numbers. You gotta look deeper then that! Actually, the one thing he is universally praised for is his leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 hours ago, nycdan said: But can he jump out of a swimming pool? Because that would erase any doubts. And don't forget the boar-hunting competition. Huge correlation to NFL success. They should seriously add that. Would help with the ratings problem lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Gangrene said: You do bring up an interesting topic of who is the worst Jet quarterback of all time. I only remember as far back as Browning Nagle, who was p*ss poor. Bubby Brister, for me, holds a special place in the pantheon of sh*te Jets qbs. Savage could likely educate me on worse Jets qbs. Christian Hackenberg not taking the field for a regular season game for two years after been drafted in the second round, is an obvious dark horse candidate for worse Jets qb of all time. Although, I expect you have to actually throw a regular season pass to truly qualify for worse Jets QB of all time. For me it was Neil O'Donnell . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Maxman said: His height check will have a lot of people watching. He has been listed all over the place. People started averaging out the sites and saying he is 6'1 If he measures in at 6'1" he is in good shape. He doesnt look close to 6'1" to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: And the fact that youre too ******* retarded to realize WHY is like, super fantastic amusing..... Jet up, you stupid ****. Swear to God this trolling genius has GOT to be a Pats fan. PatsFanTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 This is a bad comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't like the Mayfield - Petty comparison. Coming out of college, Bryce was a one read QB. If his first read was open, he was accurate, but his accuracy fell if he had to go to 2nd or 3rd read. Bryce had a strong arm, could make NFL throws and threw a nice deep ball at Baylor (if memory is correct). He could carve up a defense, as long as his first read got open. Mayfield routinely goes through progressions and is accurate on throws to 2nd or 3rd read. That alone makes him more NFL ready than Bryce. He can succeed both within the structure of the play and he scrambles to throw rather than to run, but he can run when necessary. I think he was exposed a bit by the speed of the Georgia LBs, especially in the 2nd half, who were able to limit his ability to create when the play breaks down. Despite this, I still think he is a much better prospect than Petty. To me, the better comp for Petty (as others have suggested) is Mason Rudolph, whom I see as another one read, big arm QB. Just my two cents -- for whatever that is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lith said: I don't like the Mayfield - Petty comparison. Coming out of college, Bryce was a one read QB. If his first read was open, he was accurate, but his accuracy fell if he had to go to 2nd or 3rd read. Bryce had a strong arm, could make NFL throws and threw a nice deep ball at Baylor (if memory is correct). He could carve up a defense, as long as his first read got open. Mayfield routinely goes through progressions and is accurate on throws to 2nd or 3rd read. That alone makes him more NFL ready than Bryce. He can succeed both within the structure of the play and he scrambles to throw rather than to run, but he can run when necessary. I think he was exposed a bit by the speed of the Georgia LBs who were able to limit his ability to create when the play breaks down. Despite this, I still think he is a much better prospect than Petty. To me, the better comp for Petty (as others have suggested) is Mason Rudolph, whom I see as another one read, big arm QB. Just my two cents -- for whatever that is worth. This post is so good it almost negates the bad thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 9 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: For me it was Neil O'Donnell . Damn, I remember him an expensive dissappointment but the all time worst QB in Jets history ? Those two interceptions for the Steelers in the Super Bowl should have been enough warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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