TMAC Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Jet fans should prepare themselves for this sickening possibility: Bill Belichick leaves New England and becomes head coach of the Giants. He drafts blue chip QB and gets the team back on the Super Bowl train. If Jet ownership wants to maintain its fan base, and Jet management wants to keep their jobs, they absolutely need to hit a grand slam home run this off season. They need to be smart and daring and find a way (make a deal with the Devil for all I care) to get us a bona fide franchise QB and offensive line to protect him. Nothing else is acceptable. The suggestion that they use their top pick for a CB, RB, WR, or even pass rusher (who never materialize) is ridiculous. We know what we need. We know what we want. 50 years ago, a man named Sonny Werblin stunned the sports world by signing Joe Namath. 4 years later, the Jets won the most important game in NFL history. Time for history to repeat itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 BB in not leaving NE and he's not going to the Giants. Giants just hired a GM - they're not going to fire him and pay BB $100mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If you think the Giants would pass up on BB you're nuts. They would fire their new GM in a nanosecond if they knew they could get BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I would love to see that. I hate the Pats much more than I hate the Giants. And with any luck, each of them could fail after that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 So now The Giants in BB dream job - and he finally sees an opportunity to get it? Come on...he could have gotten that or any job any time he wanted. That article is ridiculous with no sources - just again, speculation. BB isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If he leaves for the Giants, they are giving the pats the #2 pick at a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Just now, Bruce Harper said: I would love to see that. I hate the Pats much more than I hate the Giants. And with any luck, each of them could fail after that move. While I don't think it's happening, completely agree... I honestly couldn't care less about the Giants - get him out of our division - Brady retires in two years and NE becomes bottom feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Whats his contract status? If he is under contract why would you think Kraft would let him go anywhere? His only options would be Pats or retire. at least until contract expired. And as for trading draft picks if you were Kraft how much would you want for BB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Gen X Jet said: If he leaves for the Giants, they are giving the pats the #2 pick at a minimum. No way..If BB wanted out he could get out - he's vicious. I'm sure he could complain about breach of contract or whatever. He can make it ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, 20andOut said: Whats his contract status? If he is under contract why would you think Kraft would let him go anywhere? His only options would be Pats or retire. at least until contract expired. And as for trading draft picks if you were Kraft how much would you want for BB? With all the corruptness in that organization - Kraft will absolutely let him go if he wanted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If the ESPN story is true and Kraft can't work it out with Belichick there is some possibility of this happening. Because the fact is the Giants have no head coach. And the GM should be no problem. He just has to be ok with being second in charge. BB would have final say in all personnel transactions like he does with NEP. Except in the case of Kraft overriding him for Brady. As for the Jets let him go to the Giants. I'd rather have him there than with New England. We aren't in the same division as the NYG. PS if BB goes to the Giants would they then consider signing Jimmy G as their starting Qb. He is going to be a free agent. And Belichick could really stick it to Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Look if Belichick is really pissed at Kraft and he goes to the Giants. His greatest revenge would be Giants success and NEP failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: BB in not leaving NE and he's not going to the Giants. Giants just hired a GM - they're not going to fire him and pay BB $100mm... Let's save this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: With all the corruptness in that organization - Kraft will absolutely let him go if he wanted out. Lets see, you must have some inside information from Foxboro? Care to elaborate? The likelihood that all the outside speculation is correct is the same as the Jets making an organizational move that might actually better the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 This is my favorite Jets delusion ever. Nothing is happening. The Brady/BB combo has 3 more Super Bowls before their dynasty* ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: If the ESPN story is true and Kraft can't work it out with Belichick there is some possibility of this happening. Because the fact is the Giants have no head coach. And the GM should be no problem. He just has to be ok with being second in charge. BB would have final say in all personnel transactions like he does with NEP. Except in the case of Kraft overriding him for Brady. As for the Jets let him go to the Giants. I'd rather have him there than with New England. We aren't in the same division as the NYG. PS if BB goes to the Giants would they then consider signing Jimmy G as their starting Qb. He is going to be a free agent. And Belichick could really stick it to Kraft. You seem to have great insight as to what occurs in Foxboro. I suggest you put an application into the Jets organization and they can hire you to straighten out all their problems. You mind set would really add to their corporate and team philosophy. ESPN epitomizes fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Look if Belichick is really pissed at Kraft and he goes to the Giants. His greatest revenge would be Giants success and NEP failure. And having that great asset of being vindictive is definitely a reason why for his success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: With all the corruptness in that organization - Kraft will absolutely let him go if he wanted out. You might actually be making a good point, here. There's many skeletons in that closet. But could BB become a rat like Eric Mangini? Kraft is not a trivial guy he has some power and a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Paraquat, you seem upset, are you ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Why would it matter either way? The only way he'd hurt us is if we played against him in a Super Bowl. Let him go if he want's will not rub me the wrong way at all. In all likelihood he announce his retirement after McDaniels and Patricia receive their HC offers from other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Why would it matter either way? The only way he'd hurt us is if we played against him in a Super Bowl. Let him go if he want's will not rub me the wrong way at all. In all likelihood he announce his retirement after McDaniels and Patricia receive their HC offers from other teams. Jets fans should be happy that hes out of the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 frankly, i don't see the bellichicken leaving the patsies to coach any other team at the moment. imo he'd retire and go live on nantucket or wherever else he wanted to live. and if he was being vindictive against krafty then he'd would be better off letting joshy go to the giaints without a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 You might actually be making a good point, here. There's many skeletons in that closet. But could BB become a rat like Eric Mangini? Kraft is not a trivial guy he has some power and a lot of money. My point is. If BB wants out - Kraft will ultimately let him out. Maybe get something trivial back - but not a first. I can’t imagine Kraft demanding and forcing BB to stay. Could you imagine?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 You seem to have great insight as to what occurs in Foxboro. I suggest you put an application into the Jets organization and they can hire you to straighten out all their problems. You mind set would really add to their corporate and team philosophy. ESPN epitomizes fake news.This team under BB, Brady and Kraft are convicted serial cheaters - with multiple additional accusations. To think there aren’t things BB knows that could do serious damage to the Pats is simply being naive. I’ve stated before I don’t think BB is going anywhere but I also believe if he wanted out of his contract he could get out of his contract. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If only, the demise of the Pats, it would make my year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grandy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Kraft just shut down the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Kraft had to surrender a 1st round draft pick to the Jets for Bellichick, he'll get a first round pick back if Bellichick jumps out of his contract again. That pick would be the 2nd pick in the draft, and a potential franchise QB. IMO this rumor is about as well founded as the rumor that Walter Football circulated a half hour before Sam Darnold declared for the draft, that Walter had inside sources who assured them that Darnold was returning to USC. The media is worthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, flgreen said: Kraft had to surrender a 1st round draft pick to the Jets for Bellichick, he'll get a first round pick back if Bellichick jumps out of his contract again. That pick would be the 2nd pick in the draft, and a potential franchise QB. IMO this rumor is about as well founded as the rumor that Walter Football circulated a half hour before Sam Darnold declared for the draft, that Walter had inside sources who assured them that Darnold was returning to USC. The media is worthless Wait so the Patriots will get the #2 pick and a top QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, flgreen said: Kraft had to surrender a 1st round draft pick to the Jets for Bellichick, he'll get a first round pick back if Bellichick jumps out of his contract again. That pick would be the 2nd pick in the draft, and a potential franchise QB. IMO this rumor is about as well founded as the rumor that Walter Football circulated a half hour before Sam Darnold declared for the draft, that Walter had inside sources who assured them that Darnold was returning to USC. The media is worthless I don't think they would give up that first round pick. Maybe their second. But Kraft is probably a better BS-er than BB and might very well talk him into staying. Of course I only wish the worst for all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Wait so the Patriots will get the #2 pick and a top QB? Before Li Bill was winning Super Bowls the Pats had to surrender a 1st round pick to the Jets for Bellichick who was a failed HC at the time. Do you think his value has gone down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: I don't think they would give up that first round pick. Maybe their second. But Kraft is probably a better BS-er than BB and might very well talk him into staying. Of course I only wish the worst for all of them. Why? Pats had to give the Jets a First Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: Why? Pats had to give the Jets a First Because it's an overall 2. The Giants no. 2 pick is pretty high. Or it could be a 2 and a 4, something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pequod said: Oh come on. the election Of President Trump is more important to me than the spectacular come of the World Champion Patriots in the Super Bowl. There are different ways of measuring terrible things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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