Puzzling trade for Rashard Robinson backfires on Jets

[Gas2No99]

Puzzling trade for Rashard Robinson backfires on Jets

New York Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan usually has a winning touch when it comes to acquiring veteran players in trades, but he really blew it with Rashard Robinson.

On Tuesday, the trade went from bad to embarrassing, with the Associated Press reporting the second-year cornerback was arrested last month for allegedly possessing marijuana-laced candy.

Maybe that explains why he was a healthy scratch for the final two games.

Maccagnan took a chance on Robinson, knowing he had a history of off-the-field problems. At LSU, he was suspended in 2014 for a failed drug test and poor academics. He wasn't allowed to re-enroll because he was arrested for unauthorized entry into a teammate's apartment in June 2015. He transferred to a community college and trained for the 2016 draft.

The San Francisco 49ers picked him in the fourth round, but they lost patience because of his immaturity and penalty-prone ways. They found a sucker at the trading deadline, convincing the Jets to give up a fifth-round pick.

Somewhere in the Bay Area, 49ers GM John Lynch must be laughing.

Maccagnan has gambled on character risks, and one of those gambles turned into a success story -- Austin Seferian-Jenkins. Maybe he saw Robinson as his new reclamation project, but here's the difference: There was no downside to the Seferian-Jenkins move because they acquired him on waivers. With Robinson, they surrendered a piece of draft capital.

It was a puzzling trade because everybody with access to Google knew about Robinson's troubles, but the Jets apparently were blinded by his size and speed.

The first red flag was his playing time, as he appeared in only 20 defensive snaps over the second half of the season. Think about it: He couldn't crack a secondary that had no No. 3 cornerback. When he got into a game, he got torched so badly on one play that he was immediately benched.

Coach Todd Bowles was asked about Robinson's inactivity before the final game: What's wrong with him?

"Nothing," Bowles said. "Just learning."

At some point in December, Robinson was arrested. According to the AP report, police in Morris County, New Jersey, found "THC infused Peanut Budda Buddah Candy" in his possession. Even if he's cleared by the authorities, he could face discipline from the league.

A bad trade just got worse.

[Gas2No99]

Jets CB Rashard Robinson was arrested on Dec. 15 (10:17 p.m.), per police records — the same day Mo Wilkerson showed up late for a meeting and was benched for the final three games. No, that wasn't a good day for the Jets. Robinson wound up playing two days later against the Saints, but not on defense, only special teams — eight snaps. Robinson was charged with possession of a marijuana-laced candy. This happened five days after the Jets played in Denver. One source speculated that he may have purchased the product in Colorado, where pot is legal.

[UnitedWhofans]

OH well, you win some you lose some. Move on please.

I'm sure the I hate Maccagnan club will jump on this with joy. @Sperm Edwards @gEYno @TomShane @dbatesman

But that still does not cover up the truth of the matter. Maccagnan has done an okay job, and that's all there is to it. And I believe that's what most people believe.

[UnitedWhofans]

It's also worth noting that the same 4 people above are the presidents of the We hate Jamal Adams club.

Despite PFF ranking him as an above average safety, they want to disparage him by mocking his value.

But that goes away because DeShaun Watson hurt himself and Mahomes only played 1 game.

 

[Gen X Jet]

Possessing some THC-lased candy is now considered a backfired trade?  I thought for sure this was a Manish article but it was Cimini- going back to his muckraking roots lol.

[FidelioJet]

a 5th round pick for that level for his natural talent is worth a shot.  especially on a CB needy team.

Ask the question - what's the better chance to work out - hitting on a 5th round CB or trying to get this kid on the right path?

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, Gen X Jet said:

Possessing some THC-lased candy is now considered a backfired trade?  I thought for sure this was a Manish article but it was Cimini- going back to his muckraking roots lol.

He took a chance and it didn't work.

Most people actually wanted him to be more bold in the first place.

But no one will mention that. They'll just hate because they know nothing else

[KINGDIRK]

I'm not in any "I hate" fan club. Bottom line you cannot throw away draft picks. Hack in the 2nd round; Robinson for a 5th rounder. You can't do that. Everyone is going to miss on picks but imo these werent just misses; they were simply give aways. Can't happen. But I guess it can, Mac got his extension.  

[Warfish]

Bad trade.

Almost as bad as prosecution for pot candy.

[kelly]

46 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

a 5th round pick for that level for his natural talent is worth a shot.  especially on a CB needy team.

Ask the question - what's the better chance to work out - hitting on a 5th round CB or trying to get this kid on the right path?

agreed !

[kelly]

54 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said:

Possessing some THC-lased candy is now considered a backfired trade?  I thought for sure this was a Manish article but it was Cimini- going back to his muckraking roots lol.

[Matt39]

Sefarian Jenkins averaged 7 yards a catch this year. How is that remotely a success story. 

[JetsFanatic]

59 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

It's also worth noting that the same 4 people above are the presidents of the We hate Jamal Adams club.

Despite PFF ranking him as an above average safety, they want to disparage him by mocking his value.

But that goes away because DeShaun Watson hurt himself and Mahomes only played 1 game.

 

They probably were crying when McDougle was traded for Brooks.  Remember that thread back in August?

[kelly]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Sefarian Jenkins averaged 7 yards a catch this year. How is that remotely a success story. 

[Jetsfan80]

Stop trading for other teams' junk, is the lesson here that Macc doesn't understand, and likely never will. 

Even the Jermaine Kearse deal, largely considered Macc's best one, wasn't that great.  We got a late 2nd and Kearse for Richardson.  I'd rather have gotten the 2nd plus another late rounder rather than Kearse.

Draft assets >>> players other teams are giving us.  The only reason our fanbase largely disagrees with that assessment is that Macc sucks at drafting, and thus draft picks get de-valued.  

[kelly]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Stop trading for other teams' junk, is the lesson here that Macc doesn't understand, and likely never will. 

Even the Jermaine Kearse deal, largely considered Macc's best one, wasn't that great.  We got a late 2nd and Kearse for Richardson.  I'd rather have gotten the 2nd plus another late rounder rather than Kearse.

Draft assets >>> players other teams are giving us.  The only reason our fanbase largely disagrees with that assessment is that Macc sucks at drafting, and thus draft picks get de-valued.  

[MaxAF]

It's only weed guys.

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

It's also worth noting that the same 4 people above are the presidents of the We hate Jamal Adams club.

Despite PFF ranking him as an above average safety, they want to disparage him by mocking his value.

But that goes away because DeShaun Watson hurt himself and Mahomes only played 1 game.

 

Love too draft an above average safety at #6 overall

 

[southtown24th]

How the **** did it backfire? That makes 0 ******* sense.

[dbatesman]

btw, if anyone wants some context for exactly how far above average our li'l leader of men is in comparison to other first-rounders:

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

OH well, you win some you lose some. Move on please.

I'm sure the I hate Maccagnan club will jump on this with joy. @Sperm Edwards @gEYno @TomShane @dbatesman

But that still does not cover up the truth of the matter. Maccagnan has done an okay job, and that's all there is to it. And I believe that's what most people believe.

No love?  

1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

It's also worth noting that the same 4 people above are the presidents of the We hate Jamal Adams club.

Despite PFF ranking him as an above average safety, they want to disparage him by mocking his value.

But that goes away because DeShaun Watson hurt himself and Mahomes only played 1 game.

Above average! Great success. 

Actually, the fact that he was only above average is not the sad part.  It is the fact that he was an above average safety.  I like Adams just fine.  I don't like him much at 6.  Some fairly high level FA safeties are getting paid right around what he gets.  I'd rather have one and use 6 on something else.  Hopefully he turns into Eric Berry or Ed Reed.  Considering he isn't very fast, I am not holding my breath.

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

a 5th round pick for that level for his natural talent is worth a shot.  especially on a CB needy team.

Ask the question - what's the better chance to work out - hitting on a 5th round CB or trying to get this kid on the right path?

A player with that level of natural talent was worth a bottom of the 4th rounder in his draft a year earlier.  Maccagnan chose Juston Burris over him. Burris is a slow-ish corner who was only above average in the bench. I don't see how Robinson's stock would not drop like a stone when the 49ers were looking to dump him. 

I like going after a kid like Robinson, but... a 5th was probably more than he is worth and he seems a poor choice for this new "culture" in the locker room. 

[Jack Straw]

48 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Sefarian Jenkins averaged 7 yards a catch this year. How is that remotely a success story. 

He averages as many yards per catch as DWI's per year.

[j4jets]

1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

OH well, you win some you lose some. Move on please.

I'm sure the I hate Maccagnan club will jump on this with joy. @Sperm Edwards @gEYno @TomShane @dbatesman

But that still does not cover up the truth of the matter. Maccagnan has done an okay job, and that's all there is to it. And I believe that's what most people believe.

The **** you talking about? Year 4 and we are no better than we were when he started. Exactly the same, except we have no vets in the locker and most likely not a single QB on the roster when FA begins. I don’t really care if he hit on a safety, it was 6th overall. If Adams isn’t a pro bowl safety, it’s a bad pick. So far he hasn’t made a single game changing play. Idc if he lucked into Leo. Or Anderson. None of them have helped us win any games. It’s all about winning. We can have 52 players all under 25 and it still wouldn’t matter when u go 5-11. That Mac’s benchmark. Beat 5-11 and it’s a successful year. Wow.

Mac is the reason we suck. He took over a team that had no QB. Now we literally won’t have one. Oh and his contracts are sh*tty. No wonder why he’s had to release every single high paying player he signed, save for Carpenter. So no, he hasn’t done an “OK” job. He’s done a terrible job. 

[j4jets]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

a 5th round pick for that level for his natural talent is worth a shot.  especially on a CB needy team.

Ask the question - what's the better chance to work out - hitting on a 5th round CB or trying to get this kid on the right path?

True. Not like Mac was going to draft a gem anyways. 

[j4jets]

46 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Stop trading for other teams' junk, is the lesson here that Macc doesn't understand, and likely never will. 

Even the Jermaine Kearse deal, largely considered Macc's best one, wasn't that great.  We got a late 2nd and Kearse for Richardson.  I'd rather have gotten the 2nd plus another late rounder rather than Kearse.

Draft assets >>> players other teams are giving us.  The only reason our fanbase largely disagrees with that assessment is that Macc sucks at drafting, and thus draft picks get de-valued.  

Have you seen Macs drafts?

[Jet Nut]

Maybe he should wait for the player to be released, suspended for a lengthy period of time or to flat out fail before condemning the deal.  I would guess that ASJ would look even worse in the first year after the deal was made.  Not as bad a year later.

[Jet Nut]

6 minutes ago, j4jets said:

The **** you talking about? Year 4 and we are no better than we were when he started. Exactly the same, except we have no vets in the locker and most likely not a single QB on the roster when FA begins. I don’t really care if he hit on a safety, it was 6th overall. If Adams isn’t a pro bowl safety, it’s a bad pick. So far he hasn’t made a single game changing play. Idc if he lucked into Leo. Or Anderson. None of them have helped us win any games. It’s all about winning. We can have 52 players all under 25 and it still wouldn’t matter when u go 5-11. That Mac’s benchmark. Beat 5-11 and it’s a successful year. Wow.

Mac is the reason we suck. He took over a team that had no QB. Now we literally won’t have one. Oh and his contracts are sh*tty. No wonder why he’s had to release every single high paying player he signed, save for Carpenter. So no, he hasn’t done an “OK” job. He’s done a terrible job. 

You mean we dont suck because every fan with half a brain wanted to see the roster gutted of fat cat, lazy, players and an all out rebuild to take place?

Or did people want it so that when they cant think up anything remotely close that resembles what is going on with the team they can just blame Macc.  

[j4jets]

2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You mean we dont suck because every fan with half a brain wanted to see the roster gutted of fat cat, lazy, players and an all out rebuild to take place?

Or did people want it so that when they cant think up anything remotely close that resembles what is going on with the team they can just blame Macc.  

Oh I’m sorry, didn’t realize this was year 1 for Mac. 

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Oh I’m sorry, didn’t realize this was year 1 for Mac. 

What does that have to do with it?  You want to lessen your case by including his 10 win season in year 1?  

Youre the one who said we're in year 4.  Didnt realize that youre projecting, that your crystal ball already knows what the end of this season, the offseason and next season will bring and become.  Or are you just in automatic whining mode?  

[Tony MaC]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Stop trading for other teams' junk, is the lesson here that Macc doesn't understand, and likely never will. 

Even the Jermaine Kearse deal, largely considered Macc's best one, wasn't that great.  We got a late 2nd and Kearse for Richardson.  I'd rather have gotten the 2nd plus another late rounder rather than Kearse.

Draft assets >>> players other teams are giving us.  The only reason our fanbase largely disagrees with that assessment is that Macc sucks at drafting, and thus draft picks get de-valued.  

Wait, why?

We got a productive WR on a fair deal for two years who's young enough to get an extension if we want to go that way. He'd only help a young QB. 

One can criticize some trades Mac made but why go with THAT one?

[ZachEY]

I think the important thing to remember is that as long as not every move that Mac makes is a terrible one, then he is actually good and the team is headed in the right direction.

[j4jets]

19 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

What does that have to do with it?  You want to lessen your case by including his 10 win season in year 1?  

Youre the one who said we're in year 4.  Didnt realize that youre projecting, that your crystal ball already knows what the end of this season, the offseason and next season will bring and become.  Or are you just in automatic whining mode?  

No, I’m just saying Mac sucks. That’s all. 

[ZachEY]

2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said:

OH well, you win some you lose some. Move on please.

I'm sure the I hate Maccagnan club will jump on this with joy. @Sperm Edwards @gEYno @TomShane @dbatesman

But that still does not cover up the truth of the matter. Maccagnan has done an okay job, and that's all there is to it. And I believe that's what most people believe.

You're a ******* creep.

[CrazyCarl40]

1 hour ago, MaxAF said:

It's only weed guys.

Tell that to Josh Gordon. 

[Bleedin Green]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Stop trading for other teams' junk, is the lesson here that Macc doesn't understand, and likely never will. 

Even the Jermaine Kearse deal, largely considered Macc's best one, wasn't that great.  We got a late 2nd and Kearse for Richardson.  I'd rather have gotten the 2nd plus another late rounder rather than Kearse.

Draft assets >>> players other teams are giving us.  The only reason our fanbase largely disagrees with that assessment is that Macc sucks at drafting, and thus draft picks get de-valued.  

Macc is a dumbass, and this Robinson trade is looking more idiotic by the day, but you've been smoking some really bad crack if you're trying to bitch about the Richardson deal.