dbatesman Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, JiF said: That and this article clearly didn't factor in effort, being competitive in some games and beating a few playoffs teams. Otherwise, he'd know, this team is on the rise and the roster is filled with young go-getters who love each other and love the game and that's good. #JetUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, JiF said: I didn't actually read the article before responding because I figured I knew what it said already. I was wrong. It was worse than expected. I knew this roster sucked but when you read that article, you realize it's absolute dog sh*t. Really agree with this. I actually felt the roster had some decent talent to build around, especially if we got a QB. After reading the position breakdown, we're a disaster. OL is atrocious. RB is pedestrian. WRs are filled with 2nd and 3rd options, no alpha dog. Just feel we're yrs away still. If I'm GM, I'm stockpiling OL and skill players in the draft. At least be exciting and fun. Losing and boring is a toxic combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Pac said: Instant contenders with a few doable moves this offseason... Instant. i'm with ya on this. no team fields 22 all pros. teams have to have enough scary good players though. if the jets get the qb straightened out plus a few more skill positions plus center they could become a really good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, JiF said: I didn't actually read the article before responding because I figured I knew what it said already. I was wrong. It was worse than expected. I knew this roster sucked but when you read that article, you realize it's absolute dog sh*t. i read it earlier. nothing surprising. although when you think about it, powell isn't quite as good as we may think and is approaching 30. the article may a reasonable case to cut him along with forte. but really, they have maybe 4 or 5 serious holes that need to get filled with the main one being qb. and they should look to acquire players that scare the other team either on defense or even offense. after that, if they all play together and for 60 minutes this team could be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 After we take a QB at 6th overall I want at least 3 olineman drafted and at least one RB. If we bring in a new young Qb or pay bucks form one and then ignore the oiline so help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 22 hours ago, kevinc855 said: I thought we didn't "tank" hard enough for this fanbase. we didn't.. we're not gonna be able to get the QB we need ( unless we trade-up in this year's draft ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Did Jets improve this season? Position-by-position breakdown http://s.nj.com/iJMd9Tb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 10:52 AM, kelly said: we didn't.. we're not gonna be able to get the QB we need ( unless we trade-up in this year's draft ) Tanking is not real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 11:53 AM, Pac said: Instant contenders with a few doable moves this offseason... Instant. They are going to be good next year. Playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thing is do we want Todd Bowles coaching our rookie or Mac picking him? We should have cleaned house. Hackenberg still couldn't see the field in a week 17 sh*t show starring Bryce Petty, meaning the QB Mac picked 51st overall shouldn't even be taking up a roster spot at this pointPetty was a fourth round pick and hack was a project and a gamble taken in the second round how many second or later round qbs have been taken who are starting? Just Prescott who shocked just about everyone? Probably outside of Rosen this year the qbs will be a crapshoot does not really matter who is rolling the diceSent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Petty was a fourth round pick and hack was a project and a gamble taken in the second round how many second or later round qbs have been taken who are starting? Just Prescott who shocked just about everyone? Probably outside of Rosen this year the qbs will be a crapshoot does not really matter who is rolling the dice Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app No first or second round QB has not played a single NFL snap within their first 2 seasons in 30 years. Couple that with the fact we had a week 17 game where Bryce Petty was the starter, meant nothing, we where getting blown out and they where still too embarrassed to give him a series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 5:40 PM, rangerous said: i read it earlier. nothing surprising. although when you think about it, powell isn't quite as good as we may think and is approaching 30. the article may a reasonable case to cut him along with forte. but really, they have maybe 4 or 5 serious holes that need to get filled with the main one being qb. and they should look to acquire players that scare the other team either on defense or even offense. after that, if they all play together and for 60 minutes this team could be pretty good. If you compare the number of starters that the Saints and Jaguars, for example, have yielded from their last three drafts and compare that to Mac's handiwork, it will be apparent why there are so many holes in the Jets roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 After QB the Jets better start addressing the offensive line once again. Ignoring it is one of the big reasons we've missed the playoffs the last seven years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 No first or second round QB has not played a single NFL snap within their first 2 seasons in 30 years. Couple that with the fact we had a week 17 game where Bryce Petty was the starter, meant nothing, we where getting blown out and they where still too embarrassed to give him a series.Or it may also be possible they wanted to see more of petty so they could decide if they wanted to hold on to the kid or get rid of him at the end of the season...who really knows what their reasoning wasSent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 hours ago, varjet said: If you compare the number of starters that the Saints and Jaguars, for example, have yielded from their last three drafts and compare that to Mac's handiwork, it will be apparent why there are so many holes in the Jets roster. that may be true but remember it's all coming on the heels of 3 or 4 season's of non drafts by tanny and idzik. and the whole thing about being a starter on a team is a bit nebulous because some team's are averse to starting rookies and it falls on the coaches to get the players prepared. also, the jets have two clear draft errors in devin smith and hack. right there is nearly 10% of the drafted players. i make no excuse for mac or bowles. they have to get the players and get them on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 6:42 AM, bealeb319 said: Or it may also be possible they wanted to see more of petty so they could decide if they wanted to hold on to the kid or get rid of him at the end of the season...who really knows what their reasoning was Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Yeah, they're going into a deep QB draft with the 6th pick and don't even want to let Hack throw a pass in his first 2 seasons cause they've already seen enough to feel good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yeah, they're going into a deep QB draft with the 6th pick and don't even want to let Hack throw a pass in his first 2 seasons cause they've already seen enough to feel goodHack will be one of three qbs on the roster next season petty might not be.Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Hack will be one of three qbs on the roster next season petty might not be. Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app That's fine. I doubt Mac would cut his second round pick. He's clearly worthless though. He's either trash or this staff can't fix him cause they're trash. He had potential at one point. The fact of the matter remains. He's the only second rounder in a very long time to not take a snap in his first 2 years and our QB situation after McCown went down was beyond dire. He still couldn't get a snap. He clearly doesn't belong on the roster at this point and I don't think Petty does either. We're just that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 6:15 PM, Maxman said: They are going to be good next year. Playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thing is do we want Todd Bowles coaching our rookie or Mac picking him? We should have cleaned house. Hackenberg still couldn't see the field in a week 17 sh*t show starring Bryce Petty, meaning the QB Mac picked 51st overall shouldn't even be taking up a roster spot at this pointAlthough I enjoyed some of the season McCown was a waste. If ever the year to tank it was this year....Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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