Would you be mad?

[Patriot Killa]

If Kirk Cousins is signed and there isn’t a need for QB ..would you be mad if we gave up on Darron Lee and drafted Roquan Smith at 6? He just declared for the draft. This is a question I am not suggesting anything.

[Beerfish]

1)  I do not like Darron Lee, did not like him before the draft, do not like him as a player now.

2) I like Roquan Smith a lot he is the type of LB I would like on this team.

3)  I would be enraged if we did this and it would be another in a long list of pure idiot moves by the team.

[HessStation]

Should have traded back and taken Rueben Foster last year....

[SenorGato]

Irate, a non-pass rushing LB is horrendous value at 6 even if we’re looking at a good player. That’d be worse than picking a safety. 

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

1)  I do not like Darron Lee, did not like him before the draft, do not like him as a player now.

2) I like Roquan Smith a lot he is the type of LB I would like on this team.

3)  I would be enraged if we did this and it would be another in a long list of pure idiot moves by the team.

I agree with everything here. Smith is a REAL good ILB and shows an amazing skill set. I’d only do it if we traded down a few spots.

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, SenorGato said:

Irate, a non-pass rushing LB is horrendous value at 6 even if we’re looking at a good player. That’d be worse than picking a safety. 

Would you trade down and do it if we already had our O-line set up nicely?

[joewilly12]

[JiFtheOracle]

Yes.  I would be absolutely furious if they drafted an ILB at #6 overall, 2 years after drafting an ILB at #20 overall, 1 year after drafting basically a glorified ILB at #6.  Especially because all this dude does, is tackle people. 

That would literally be 4 straight 1st round draft picks for guys who tackle people and that's it.  You can find guys who can tackle people all over the draft. 

[dbatesman]

That would be Maccagnan’s masterpiece.

[Untouchable]

Love Smith, but yeah, I’d be pissed.

Guys like Chubb and Barkley will probably be gone at #6, but we’ll still be able to pick a blue chip OL like Nelson/McGlinchley or an edgerusher like Key (who you can argue has even more upside than Chubb).

And I’d take any of them over Smith considering where this team is right now.

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Yes.  I would be absolutely furious if they drafted an ILB at #6 overall, 2 years after drafting an ILB at #20 overall, 1 year after drafting basically a glorified ILB at #6.  Especially because all this dude does, is tackle people. 

That would literally be 4 straight 1st round draft picks for guys who tackle people and that's it.  You can find guys who can tackle people all over the draft. 

Darron Lee was a huge mistake. I think they need to go ahead and realize that and fix it...I’m not saying Smith is the way to go. Just that we need to give up on that idiot sooner than later..

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

Love Smith, but yeah, I’d be pissed.

Guys like Chubb and Barkley will probably be gone at #6, but we’ll still be able to pick a blue chip OL like Nelson/McGlinchley or an edgerusher like Key (who you can argue has even more upside than Chubb).

And I’d take any of them over Smith considering where this team is right now.

Blue Chip OL is my top choice if Edge Rusher is gone and we already have a QB.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Yes.  I would be absolutely furious if they drafted an ILB at #6 overall, 2 years after drafting an ILB at #20 overall, 1 year after drafting basically a glorified ILB at #6.  Especially because all this dude does, is tackle people. 

That would literally be 4 straight 1st round draft picks for guys who tackle people and that's it.  You can find guys who can tackle people all over the draft. 

To illustrate just how angry I'd be;

I hit "submit reply" on this post in anger, shaking my head furiously at the stupidity of it all.  I navigated away from the thread, still angry.  I then found a funny gif to respond to something whacky from whofans in another thread and that usually gives me joy.  It didn't.  I was still angry. So I felt the need to come back into this thread and share just how angry the idea of this made me and I'm still angry about to hit submit again. 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

part of the reason i wanted the Jets to get as close to the top pick as possible is that it would more or less force them to take a top rated qb without having to pay a king's ransom to trade up if they were within reach. 

Choice and Maccagnan/Bowles scare me. 

[JiFtheOracle]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Darron Lee was a huge mistake. I think they need to go ahead and realize that and fix it...I’m not saying Smith is the way to go. Just that we need to give up on that idiot sooner than later..

You're making more angry with every new post.  I've never been angered by a thread more than I'm angered by this thread.

 

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

To illustrate just how angry I'd be;

I hit "submit reply" on this post in anger, shaking my head furiously at the stupidity of it all.  I navigated away from the thread, still angry.  I then found a funny gif to respond to something whacky from whofans in another thread and that usually gives me joy.  It didn't.  I was still angry. So I felt the need to come back into this thread and share just how angry the idea of this made me and I'm still angry about to hit submit again. 

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[JiFtheOracle]

Just now, Patriot Killa said:

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I WANT TO BURN THIS ******* THREAD TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, JiF said:

You're making more angry with every new post.  I've never been angered by a thread more than I'm angered by this thread.

 

You are making yourself angry JiF. I didn’t advocate Smith. I’m saying to you right now that we need to give up on Lee and find someone better. That doesn’t mean Smith. The only reason this is a thread is because he declared. Breath in and breath out. 

[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

You are making yourself angry JiF. I didn’t advocate Smith. I’m saying to you right now that we need to give up on Lee and find someone better. That doesn’t mean Smith. The only reason this is a thread is because he declared. Breath in and breath out. 

[Bleedin Green]

7 minutes ago, JiF said:

Yes.  I would be absolutely furious if they drafted an ILB at #6 overall, 2 years after drafting an ILB at #20 overall, 1 year after drafting basically a glorified ILB at #6.  Especially because all this dude does, is tackle people. 

That would literally be 4 straight 1st round draft picks for guys who tackle people and that's it.  You can find guys who can tackle people all over the draft. 

The Jets most definitely should not even consider any degree of "tackler" in the first few rounds of the draft, never mind #6.

On the other hand, Saints might want to give it some serious thought.

[Jetscode1]

4 minutes ago, JiF said:

I WANT TO BURN THIS ******* THREAD TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Patriot Killa]

Hell, i’d be mad too....

 

Darron Lee is a joke though. Does anyone have a sleeper in the 3-5 rounds who can take a startering spot at the position?

[Patriot Killa]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

What a magnificent beard.

[JiFtheOracle]

2 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

The Jets most definitely should not even consider any degree of "tackler" in the first few rounds of the draft, never mind #6.

On the other hand, Saints might want to give it some serious thought.

I feel terrible for that kid.  He was playing great last night too.  Man, what a whiff.  

Still very angry about this thread though..

[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

What a magnificent beard.

Thank you. You're the 2nd person to compliment my beard today.

Still angry though.  You SOB.  Don't try to shower me with compliments to get out of how pissed off I am at you. 

[Beerfish]

How about if we draft Minkah Fitzpatrick with our 1st rounder and then use both 2nd rounders to trade back up to get roquan smith!

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Thank you. You're the 2nd person to compliment my beard today.

Still angry though.  You SOB.  Don't try to shower me with compliments to get out of how pissed off I am at you. 

What if I told you Smith can play safety too??

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, Beerfish said:

How about if we draft Minkah Fitzpatrick with our 1st rounder and then use both 2nd rounders to trade back up to get roquan smith!

Genius...you sly bastard!

[JiFtheOracle]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

What if I told you Smith can play safety too??

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Bahahahahaa...okay..this was a bad thread.? I honestly sound like I’m trolling at this point. I’ll cut my losses.

[joewilly12]

16 minutes ago, JiF said:

You're making more angry with every new post.  I've never been angered by a thread more than I'm angered by this thread.

 

[Sperm Edwards]

 

12 minutes ago, JiF said:

I feel terrible for that kid.  He was playing great last night too.  Man, what a whiff.  

Still very angry about this thread though..

Yeah but there are times to go for the big hit and there are times to just wrap a guy up. When you're in a situation where getting dragged and eventually - even if he needed help - bringing him down after another 5 yards downfield, seals a victory, you take the sure thing. Doubtful they could have even lined up to spike it. 

Then again, while the player should know this, with everything going on for the guys on the field the cooler-head reminder/message has to come in from the sideline to remind them of the situation: don't let him get out of bounds, and just wrap him up if he catches it and we win. There are no style points for a hard body blow. 

And hijacking this thread is a public service, so we should carry on.

[JiFtheOracle]

2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

 

Yeah but there are times to go for the big hit and there are times to just wrap a guy up. When you're in a situation where getting dragged and eventually - even if he needed help - bringing him down after another 5 yards downfield, seals a victory, you take the sure thing. Doubtful they could have even lined up to spike it. 

Then again, while the player should know this, with everything going on for the guys on the field the cooler-head reminder/message has to come in from the sideline to remind them of the situation: don't let him get out of bounds, and just wrap him up if he catches it and we win. There are no style points for a hard body blow. 

And hijacking this thread is a public service, so we should carry on.

Done and done.  Worst thread ever. I'll never fully get over how mad this thread made me.

Curious about that play; did he say he was trying to land a big hit?  It almost looked like he was afraid to get a penalty so he kind of ducked away the hit.  Otherwise, how do you possibly miss that bad?

I agree though.  He's a rookie, he should have been reminded on the sideline and by every other player on the team. 

[Patriot Killa]

7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

 

Yeah but there are times to go for the big hit and there are times to just wrap a guy up. When you're in a situation where getting dragged and eventually - even if he needed help - bringing him down after another 5 yards downfield, seals a victory, you take the sure thing. Doubtful they could have even lined up to spike it. 

Then again, while the player should know this, with everything going on for the guys on the field the cooler-head reminder/message has to come in from the sideline to remind them of the situation: don't let him get out of bounds, and just wrap him up if he catches it and we win. There are no style points for a hard body blow. 

And hijacking this thread is a public service, so we should carry on.

We really can just close it and forget it ever happened.???‍♂️

[Sperm Edwards]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Done and done.  Worst thread ever. I'll never fully get over how mad this thread made me.

Curious about that play; did he say he was trying to land a big hit?  It almost looked like he was afraid to get a penalty so he kind of ducked away the hit.  Otherwise, how do you possibly miss that bad?

I agree though.  He's a rookie, he should have been reminded on the sideline and by every other player on the team. 

I don't know what he said; didn't read anything about it and didn't see any interview(s) with him. 

I didn't see it on replay a dozen times (just the 1-2 they showed right after it happened) and it looked like he launched his body to deliver the blow that way. All he had to do - other than keeping him in bounds - was wrap him up. 

These kids have so much adrenaline in them at that point, there's little risked in a reminder. Especially when you've got rookies or other less-experienced players out there.