Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I missed it yesterday, but how about a thread for updates, news and notes from Shrine Week -- practices during the week and for the game on Saturday. East Roster and Measurements: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Day 1 Summary from NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000907142/article/shrine-game-day-1-notebook-jt-barrett-takes-command?campaign=tw-cf-sf179307836-sf179307836&sf179307836=1&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- J.T. Barrett has a full week to show NFL scouts his skills as a passer at the East-West Shrine Game (Jan. 20 at 3 p.m. ET on NFL Network), but he didn't even wait a day to flash the leadership and intangible qualities that were a signature of his four years as quarterback at Ohio State. In the East squad's first practice Monday, the former Buckeyes star was a vocal leader amid the chaos and uncertainty that is common for the first day of any all-star setting. He sought out receivers for high-fives after good catches, barked out calls and even changed a couple plays at the line of scrimmage. Tampa Bay Buccaneers quality control assistant Zack Grossi is serving as East team's QBs coach, and Barrett took Grossi's pre-practice message to heart. "We have to own it when we're in there getting our reps," Barrett said. "Coach Grossi told us to take ownership of the offense, make sure it's ours." Barrett enjoyed his best college season as a fifth-year senior at OSU, leading the Buckeyes to a Big Ten title with career highs in yardage (3,053), touchdown passes (35) and completion percentage (64.7). Still, there is plenty to prove for a high-profile quarterback who isn't considered among the best draft prospects at his position. He's already noted some significant differences between OSU's offense and the one he'll operate this week in Shrine Game practices. "It's getting under center, it's taking control in the huddle, barking out calls, all those things were different at Ohio State," he said. "That's something crucial, making all those adjustments." Leadership, however, is one thing he didn't have to remember to pack. Tall enough Texas' Poona Ford has been a highly productive defensive tackle for the Longhorns for three seasons, piling up 20.5 tackles for loss. But at 5-foot-11, his height will be a significant question mark for NFL scouts in his draft evaluation. He considers Shrine Game week to be one of his best chances to show those scouts he can play with anyone. "People have been saying I'm not tall enough since I was in high school. I just keep proving people wrong," Ford said. Top performers Some of the standouts at Monday's practices included Michigan State C Brian Allen, Miami CB DeVonta' Delaney, FSU S Trey Marshall, Wisconsin LB Leon Jacobs and Colorado S Afolabi Laguda. Delaney showed impressive speed and instincts reacting to underneath routes, and Laguda made an impressive pass breakup defending against former Buffaloes teammate Bryce Bobo. Quotable "I told him I'm glad to be playing with him for a change, and he told me the same thing. He's glad I'm catching his passes instead of somebody else's." -- Penn State WR Daesean Hamilton on what it's like to be teammates with former Big Ten rival J.T. Barrett. Who's talking to whom A look at some of the on-field player interviews conducted by NFL clubs following Shrine Game practices Monday: Arizona Cardinals: FSU LB Matthew Thomas Denver Broncos: South Florida QB Quinton Flowers Miami Dolphins: Louisiana-Lafayette S Tracy Walker New Orleans Saints: Michigan State C Brian Allen, Texas DT Poona Ford Los Angeles Chargers: Weber State TE Andrew Vollert, Louisville S Chucky Williams Los Angeles Rams: Mississippi State LS Hunter Bradley, UNLV WR Devonte Boyd Philadelphia Eagles: Sam Houston State DT P.J. Hall San Francisco 49ers: Delaware DT Bilal Nichols Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Houston WR Steven Dunbar Washington Redskins: FSU LB Matthew Thomas Follow Chase Goodbread on Twitter @ChaseGoodbread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Only Jet update I could find so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Oh wow, the tokin Canadian University player for the West team is from the University that I work for. "THE University of Alberta" Go Golden Bears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Oh wow, the tokin Canadian University player for the West team is from the University that I work for. "THE University of Alberta" Go Golden Bears! What's the scouting report? More importantly, is he polite? Also, thanks lith for posting this. Shrine game and senior bowl usually help uncover a lot of underhyped prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: What's the scouting report? More importantly, is he polite? Also, thanks lith for posting this. Shrine game and senior bowl usually help uncover a lot of underhyped prospects. I know his name and know that he was an all Canadian but thats it. I didn't go to any games this year, though i should have we were actually compeetive this year for change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Lith said: Only Jet update I could find so far: Senat is going to need to start eating 5 meals a day because 6'8 290 isnt going to cut it in the NFL. Would be a nice late round guy to develop for a year or 2 on the bench and then hopefully his strength catches up with his athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: Oh wow, the tokin Canadian University player for the West team is from the University that I work for. "THE University of Alberta" Go Golden Bears! Was always of U of C guy myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Tidbit who we met with: Quote New York Jets - Miami of Ohio cornerback Heath Harding, Colorado running back Phillip Lindsay, Wagner offensive tackle Greg Senat, and Troy running back Jordan Chunn Only name i can say i know is Chunn. I happened to catch Troy game (was it their LSU upset?) and Chunn looked good. pretty pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Paradis said: Tidbit who we met with: Only name i can say i know is Chunn. I happened to catch Troy game (was it their LSU upset?) and Chunn looked good. pretty pretty good. Heard a bit about Lindsay earlier in the week. Undersized RB - potential 3rd down back/return man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Pauline's update after East practice this AM: http://draftanalyst.com/shrine-practice-tuesday-am-report Day 2 of Shrine practices saw beautiful weather in the morning as the East took the field for another practice. A handful of players really impressed, including a pair of Penn State Nittany Lions. Those Who Impressed DaeSean Hamilton/WR/Penn State: I wrote about the buzz building around Hamilton in last evening's notes, and he took it to another level this morning. Hamilton looked dominant in all facets during drills to start the day. He was tremendous in blocking drills, using his big body to annihilate defenders and open up lanes for screen passes. His route-running was incredibly impressive for a bigger receiver, and on several occasions he had defensive backs grasping at air as he left them in the dust. He also caught everything thrown in his direction. The only red flag is his lack of downfield speed, but Hamilton has definitely put his name in mid-round contention. From what I’ve witnessed, the New York Giants are very interested in the big receiver. KC McDermott/OL/Miami: McDermott has done a solid job at left tackle, and today he shut down Kentavius Street, a feat no one else seems to accomplish. McDermott is not a great athlete, but he uses terrific angles and positioning to seal the edge. I still believe his best position at the next level will be inside at guard, but McDermott -- who was not graded by scouts entering the season -- is looking like a lock for the draft’s final day. Grant Haley/CB/Penn State: Early in the day, Haley got smoked by teammate DaeSean Hamilton but buckled down and looked as good as anyone by the end of the session. He made a terrific play to defend a deep throw against Justin Watson of Penn in one-on-one’s then made several nice plays during the full scrimmage. The East has a number of quality next-level defensive backs on its roster, and Haley was among the best today. Chris Worley/LB/Ohio State: Worley has not made any splash plays over the past two days, rather he’s been the usual consistent, do-the-little-things type of linebacker he was at Ohio State. I’ve been impressed with his run defense as well as his cover skills. I’ve been even more impressed with his discipline and instincts. Worley will be a steal in the middle rounds for a team looking for a consistent three-down defender. Chad Thomas/DE/Miami: Thomas is the second Hurricane to make the list from morning practice, and for the second day in a row he looked impressive. He’s a tall, rather athletic pass rusher who fires off the snap then moves well around the field. Thomas displays terrific edge speed and balance. His strength at the point is an issue, though Thomas projects nicely as a 4-3 situational pass rusher at the next level. Final Thoughts * I spent a bit of time speaking with Deadrin Senat last night and came away very impressed. We spoke about USF, coach Charlie Strong and his teammates. Senat is a well-spoken, well-thought individual. When I mentioned that I thought his teammate Bruce Hector was an underrated prospect, Senat told me he was on his way to call the defensive tackle to see how he fared during his first practice at the NFLPA game. * Tuesday was another strong practice for Avonte Maddox of Pittsburgh. The cornerback made several nice plays on the ball, especially when he was backed off the line of scrimmage rather than lined up in man coverage. * Today was not a good day for another cornerback, Brandon Facyson. The Virginia Tech senior will make a nice play or two and remind everyone of the underlying talent he possesses, then he'll give up three or four easy receptions. Facyson seemed to be getting frustrated with himself throughout the morning. * After his sophomore season, people who watched Jamar Summers of UConn stamped him as a potential second-day pick, including yours truly. But over the past two seasons, Summers has watched his game regress badly. After watching him over the past two days, I’ve come to the conclusion it’s all in his head. During drills Summers looks as good as any defensive back here at Shrine practices. He displays a quick, fluid backpedal, easily flips his hips and has a great burst out of his plant. The problems start when the ball is in the air and Summers needs to think or react, and he’s been late getting to the action every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Was always of U of C guy myself U of C has been owning the U of A for about the past 20 years in football, it's bloody maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Thanks for this, I call it the Day 3 Game because I’m clever and hilarious like Nick Cannon. Glad to read GM guy is already turning over them stones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Tidbit who we met with: Only name i can say i know is Chunn. I happened to catch Troy game (was it their LSU upset?) and Chunn looked good. pretty pretty good. Speaking of Chunn - here is a clip of him from earlier today. https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan/status/953363011485536263 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Jets met with Poona Ford, DT Texas. Undersized NT. Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year. More on Ford from Tony Pauline's Update after yesterday's practice: http://draftanalyst.com/shrine-practice-tuesday-pm-report Poona Ford/DT/Texas: Despite measuring under six feet, Ford has played big football the past two days. He fires off the snap with an explosive first step and gets a lot of push up the field with his stumpy-yet-powerful legs. Entering the season ignored by scouts, Ford now projects as a solid third-day pick. He’s getting a lot of attention from several teams, including the New York Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 From WalterFootball.com, Jets Team interviews (I have added stats and measurements, though the measurements may not be up-to-date): East/West Shrine 1/15 CB Heath Harding Miami of Ohio 5'1" 190 49 games, 284 tackles, 15 TFL, 10 INT, 27 PD, 3 FF, 3 FR RB Phillip Lindsay Colorado 5'8" 190 51 games, 765 carries, 3775 yards, 4.9 yards/carry, 36 TDs, 117 rec, 1084 rec yards, 9.3 y/rec, 3 TDs OT Greg Senat Wagner 6'8" 290 "In his second year on the gridiron, Greg Senat is looking to build on a season that saw him make a successful transition from the Wagner basketball team." 2016: Starting all 11 games at right tackle, this imposing physical specimen helped solidify an offensive line unit that paved the way for the Seahawks to finish second in the NEC in scoring (29.7), passing offense (257.8) and No. 1 in turnover margin (+7.1) and first downs (131) RB Jordan Chunn Troy 6'1" 235 49 games, 679 carries, 3124 yards, 4.6 y/carry, 47 TDs, 84 rec, 558 rec yards, 6.6 y/rec, 0 Yds East/West Shrine 1/16 WR Devonte Boyd UNLV 45 games, 198 rec, 3242 rec yards, 16.4 y/rec, 18 TDs DT Poona Ford Texas 6'0" 305 42 games, 133 tackles, 20.5 TFL, 4 sacks, 2 PD QB Jeremiah Briscoe Sam Houston State 6'3" 225 41 games, 59.1% completion, 31 INT, 116 TD, 11488 yards, 8.7 yards/pass, 280.2 yards/game East/West Shrine 1/17 WR Regis Cibasu University of Montreal 6'3" 232 31 games, 145 rec, 1765 rec yards, 12.2 y/rec, 7 TDs LB Jason Cabinda Penn State 6'1" 234 40 games, 285 tackles, 17.5 TFL, 7 sacks, 1 INT, 11 PD, 2 FF, 1 FR LB D.J. Palmore Navy 6'3" 236 40 games, 173 tackles, 29 TFL, 10.5 sacks, 0 INT, 6 PD, 1 FF, 5 FR LB Jacob Pugh Florida State 6'4" 229 36 games, 108 tackles, 12 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 2 INT, 4 PD, 1 FF, 3 FR, 1 TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 A benchmark I usually use for WR prospects is a TD every 10 receptions. None of these WRs do it, though maybe there’s like an exchange rate going for this Canadian. Jacob Pugh has interesting size for a non-EDGE LB, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fellow Quaker and Wide Receiver is making a lot of noise @Lith .... Gonna have to keep my eyes on this Watson kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Only guy I’m kinda familiar with is Cabinda. He jumped out in the 2-3 Penn State games I watched last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Jets are also supposedly really high on Arizona DB Dane Cruikshank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Fellow Quaker and Wide Receiver is making a lot of noise @Lith .... Gonna have to keep my eyes on this Watson kid. Big fan of Watson - don't watch Penn as much as UGA - for obvious reasons, but this kid is legit. Better prospect than Torgersen last yeatr - probably the best pro prospect out of Penn that I can remember. Would not be surprised if he gets drafted -- and I can promise he will be drafted when we do our mock on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 8:32 PM, Untouchable said: Jets are also supposedly really high on Arizona DB Dane Cruikshank. You sure he’s not a safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 17/01/2018 at 8:36 PM, nyjbuddy said: From WalterFootball.com, Jets Team interviews (I have added stats and measurements, though the measurements may not be up-to-date): East/West Shrine 1/15 CB Heath Harding Miami of Ohio 5'1" 190 49 games, 284 tackles, 15 TFL, 10 INT, 27 PD, 3 FF, 3 FR RB Phillip Lindsay Colorado 5'8" 190 51 games, 765 carries, 3775 yards, 4.9 yards/carry, 36 TDs, 117 rec, 1084 rec yards, 9.3 y/rec, 3 TDs OT Greg Senat Wagner 6'8" 290 "In his second year on the gridiron, Greg Senat is looking to build on a season that saw him make a successful transition from the Wagner basketball team." 2016: Starting all 11 games at right tackle, this imposing physical specimen helped solidify an offensive line unit that paved the way for the Seahawks to finish second in the NEC in scoring (29.7), passing offense (257.8) and No. 1 in turnover margin (+7.1) and first downs (131) RB Jordan Chunn Troy 6'1" 235 49 games, 679 carries, 3124 yards, 4.6 y/carry, 47 TDs, 84 rec, 558 rec yards, 6.6 y/rec, 0 Yds East/West Shrine 1/16 WR Devonte Boyd UNLV 45 games, 198 rec, 3242 rec yards, 16.4 y/rec, 18 TDs DT Poona Ford Texas 6'0" 305 42 games, 133 tackles, 20.5 TFL, 4 sacks, 2 PD QB Jeremiah Briscoe Sam Houston State 6'3" 225 41 games, 59.1% completion, 31 INT, 116 TD, 11488 yards, 8.7 yards/pass, 280.2 yards/game East/West Shrine 1/17 WR Regis Cibasu University of Montreal 6'3" 232 31 games, 145 rec, 1765 rec yards, 12.2 y/rec, 7 TDs LB Jason Cabinda Penn State 6'1" 234 40 games, 285 tackles, 17.5 TFL, 7 sacks, 1 INT, 11 PD, 2 FF, 1 FR LB D.J. Palmore Navy 6'3" 236 40 games, 173 tackles, 29 TFL, 10.5 sacks, 0 INT, 6 PD, 1 FF, 5 FR LB Jacob Pugh Florida State 6'4" 229 36 games, 108 tackles, 12 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 2 INT, 4 PD, 1 FF, 3 FR, 1 TD Please tell me Heath Harding is not actually 5’1” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 5:28 PM, Paradis said: Fellow Quaker and Wide Receiver is making a lot of noise @Lith .... Gonna have to keep my eyes on this Watson kid. Just got a Senior Bowl invite too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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