Beerfish Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QB - At least two. We need a starter (even if the team decides to being back mccown) and for sure a backup, I see no viable backup between petty and Hack. Oline - Absolute minimum of one, that being Center which was atrocious last year. I actually think we need two more good pieces this year but an arguemtn could be made that the Guards and Tackles are good enough for another year. RB - At least one. It will be a disaster if the team retains Forte when we are hearing about wanting to run more. TE - At least one. Whether we retain ASJ ore go in another direction we need at least one starting TE. WR - At least one. The Anderson thing just opened up a hole on the team. I don't think we had a true #1 guy before but we for sure do not now. DL - At least one. Mo wilk is a goner so we need to get at least one staring dlineman, which is a sad indictment of the team after what we have put into the position. ILB - At least one. Davis is a FA, we should not over pay or more importantly over term this guy even if he had a good year last year. In any case with him a FA now there is a big hole OLB - We have had a hole at pass rushing OLB/De for years and years. This is a gaping hole. CB - At least one starting quality CB. Even if we retain Claiborne we have a huge hole on the other side. Amazing that we have so many huge holes that have to be filled. These are must haves, the would like to have list is larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: TE - At least one. Whether we retain ASJ ore go in another direction we need at least one starting TE. NY Jets Neal Sterling is going to be a superstar the kid can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This will go much quicker if we flip it around. We are pretty set at P, K, DT and starting Safety (but need depth there). Did I miss anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: NY Jets Neal Sterling is going to be a superstar the kid can play. I agree with you that he can play. Name me one thing ASJ does that this kid can't? That's right, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The roster looks very thin when you at it by position. But a good QB will elevate everyone’s level of play. We need Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, section314 said: I agree with you that he can play. Name me one thing ASJ does that this kid can't? That's right, nothing. Neal Sterling was a beast at Monmouth University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This thread title is like s bat signal for @JiF‘s gay penis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: The roster looks very thin when you at it by position. But a good QB will elevate everyone’s level of play. We need Cousins. I agree with your premise, a really good Qb can drag a team with holes a long ways. I'm just not quite sure if cousins is that guy or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Biggest hole is Robby Anderson. You decide which kind he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, sirlancemehlot said: Biggest hole is Robby Anderson. You decide which kind he is. DAMN IT. I HATE U. I almost had the joke of the century lined up until you watered it down with your similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QB - Moves the margins on everything, how much depends on how good the FA or pick is. If he’s excellent they don’t need to be perfect everywhere, just need a few studs and a bunch of competent enough players. OL - Most specifically a starting C but the depth sucks everywhere with none of Qvale, Dozier, or Iljalana looking like an emerging talent. It’s possible better QB play and even an average C goes a long towards fixing the OL in 2018, but they need more depth and competition at G and OT to set up the years after 2018. RB - For such an easy position to play the Jets’ rush offense has sucked under Bowles consistently in the bottom 10-12 or worse by DVOA. This was true even in 2015 when everything else about the offense was conpetitive. CB/pass rusher don’t really care which one Everything else can work if those positions can get upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, SenorGato said: QB - Moves the margins on everything, how much depends on how good the FA or pick is. If he’s excellent they don’t need to be perfect everywhere, just need a few studs and a bunch of competent enough players. OL - Most specifically a starting C but the depth sucks everywhere with none of Qvale, Dozier, or Iljalana looking like an emerging talent. It’s possible better QB play and even an average C goes a long towards fixing the OL in 2018, but they need more depth and competition at G and OT to set up the years after 2018. RB - For such an easy position to play the Jets’ rush offense has sucked under Bowles consistently in the bottom 10-12 or worse by DVOA. This was true even in 2015 when everything else about the offense was conpetitive. CB/pass rusher don’t really care which one Everything else can work if those positions can get upgraded. Exactly this word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I would say QB, C, CB, and pass rusher. I still like our WR corps because we get Enunwa back and lose Anderson, We still need a burner, but you can get that elsewhere. Look at Robby Anderson himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Oh and I forgot a TE or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: QB - At least two. We need a starter (even if the team decides to being back mccown) and for sure a backup, I see no viable backup between petty and Hack. Oline - Absolute minimum of one, that being Center which was atrocious last year. I actually think we need two more good pieces this year but an arguemtn could be made that the Guards and Tackles are good enough for another year. RB - At least one. It will be a disaster if the team retains Forte when we are hearing about wanting to run more. TE - At least one. Whether we retain ASJ ore go in another direction we need at least one starting TE. WR - At least one. The Anderson thing just opened up a hole on the team. I don't think we had a true #1 guy before but we for sure do not now. DL - At least one. Mo wilk is a goner so we need to get at least one staring dlineman, which is a sad indictment of the team after what we have put into the position. ILB - At least one. Davis is a FA, we should not over pay or more importantly over term this guy even if he had a good year last year. In any case with him a FA now there is a big hole OLB - We have had a hole at pass rushing OLB/De for years and years. This is a gaping hole. CB - At least one starting quality CB. Even if we retain Claiborne we have a huge hole on the other side. Amazing that we have so many huge holes that have to be filled. These are must haves, the would like to have list is larger. I like the topic. Here is what I thing are burning needs, in other words the minimum we need: QB - Cousins and later pick -or- McCown and first round pick. (1 FA / 1 Draft) O-Line - Center (1 FA) RB - (1 Draft) TE - (1 FA) - ASJ or other. We have Sterling, Tomlinson and Legget without ASJ, but one more vet would help and keep best 2-3. WR - (1 FA) - Landry would be nice. DL - (1 FA / 1 Draft) - I think at minimum we need 2. One edge (Draft) and one to replace Wilk. ILB - (1 FA) - Davis, or other. Maybe 2 and move Lee to the outside. OLB - (1 Draft) - Jenkins is only one we have that can really amount to something. CB - (1 FA / 1 Draft) - Claiborne is injury prone if he goes down we need the depth. Not impressed with anyone we have at CB. That's 7 Free Agents and 5 draft picks. We can add depth with later draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: QB - At least two. We need a starter (even if the team decides to being back mccown) and for sure a backup, I see no viable backup between petty and Hack. Oline - Absolute minimum of one, that being Center which was atrocious last year. I actually think we need two more good pieces this year but an arguemtn could be made that the Guards and Tackles are good enough for another year. RB - At least one. It will be a disaster if the team retains Forte when we are hearing about wanting to run more. TE - At least one. Whether we retain ASJ ore go in another direction we need at least one starting TE. WR - At least one. The Anderson thing just opened up a hole on the team. I don't think we had a true #1 guy before but we for sure do not now. DL - At least one. Mo wilk is a goner so we need to get at least one staring dlineman, which is a sad indictment of the team after what we have put into the position. ILB - At least one. Davis is a FA, we should not over pay or more importantly over term this guy even if he had a good year last year. In any case with him a FA now there is a big hole OLB - We have had a hole at pass rushing OLB/De for years and years. This is a gaping hole. CB - At least one starting quality CB. Even if we retain Claiborne we have a huge hole on the other side. Amazing that we have so many huge holes that have to be filled. These are must haves, the would like to have list is larger. This is what a rebuild looks like folks. The cubbard is still bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Jets fans’ collective rectums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Winning teams throw to get a lead then rush the passer and pound the rock o-line helps 2 out of 3 Outside of QB and pass rusher it has to be the top priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 The thread title got the mods excited...until they read “on this team”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Need Pass rushers, qb, now need at least two wr’s, Tight End and pretty much any spot on the OL could be upgraded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Jets fans’ collective rectums It’s a true rebuild dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 To be a relevant football team, you need: FQB LT Playmaker on Offense Pass Rusher #1 CB Playmaker on defense We have none of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Give me a large A for Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Integrity28 said: This thread title is like s bat signal for @JiF‘s gay penis Somebody misses teh mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 53-13=40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 No excuse to have holes on defenses with what 7 first round defensive picks in a row. But here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: This is what a rebuild looks like folks. The cubbard is still bare. Lol. Only 3 years of drafts and free agency and hundreds of millions of dollars sunk into this rebuild and they don’t have anything of substance to show for it. This is not what a rebuild looks like. There are many other teams that have done it and done it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, jgb said: No excuse to have holes on defenses with what 7 first round defensive picks in a row. But here we are. Nine. For real. Granted a bunch of them suck and aren’t in the league anymore. But we have spent 9 1st round picks in a row on defense. 2010- Wilson - gone 2011- Wilkerson - soon to be gone 2012-Coples - gone 2013- Milliner and Richardson - both gone 2014- Pryor - gone 2015- Leo 2016- Lee 2017- Adams Pretty sad to be honest with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I Rhodes was gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: This is what a rebuild looks like folks. The cubbard is still bare. Our biggest hole is HC. As long as he is here, the rebuild will go on forever. This is what, coming into year 4 now? It is always convenient to blame failure on a rebuild, where in reality, if we had competent management, we would have had some success instead of the same old $hit 2 years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I think the big 3 are QB, O-line, and CB. There's other positions we could obviously use help at as well like OLB, WR, and RB but you gotta have a QB, you have to be able to protect that QB, ,and you got to have corners who can play. The CB position has become on of the most important positions in the league in recent years. Our last two picks at CB in the first round have been disasters (Milliner, Wilson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well now that Anderson has imploded and Enunwa's uncertainty you basically have to revamp the whole WR corps. Kearse is a nice starting point but you need to add a minimum of 2 and maybe 3 players to the team. So you need to add 1 or maybe 2 QB's. 2 or 3 WR's 1 RB, at least 2 OL(C G) and that not even taking into account the teams needs on D. I'm sure that is looking mighty attractive to Cousins. Why wouldn't he want to come to a team that will need at least 2 more seasons to be even be considered a contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said: I think the big 3 are QB, O-line, and CB. There's other positions we could obviously use help at as well like OLB, WR, and RB but you gotta have a QB, you have to be able to protect that QB, ,and you got to have corners who can play. The CB position has become on of the most important positions in the league in recent years. Our last two picks at CB in the first round have been disasters (Milliner, Wilson). Agree with the first two, would put edge rusher ahead of CB. A good pass rush covers up many mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Our biggest hole is HC. As long as he is here, the rebuild will go on forever. This is what, coming into year 4 now? It is always convenient to blame failure on a rebuild, where in reality, if we had competent management, we would have had some success instead of the same old $hit 2 years running. I have to agree with this. In reality, your rebuild doesn’t even start until you get a QB that you can build around. Since our HC would prefer to throw Fitzpatrick and McCown out there year after year instead of investing in a potential star, we will be no better than where we are right now. Just good enough not to bottom out and never good enough to be even a discussion point in relevance to the elite teams of the league. I can only hope Chris Johnson raises the bar of expectations for 18 and beyond. It really needs to be higher than “the players like their HC and play hard for him.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 In order of importance: 1. QB 1A. Center - we dont need to invest FA money or a high pick on a guard or tackle. We can draft a developmental tackle in the mid rounds and if we add jensen we will significantly upgrade the line as a whole, without changing anyone else 3. OLB/pass rusher - I'm fine if this happens to be bradley chubb (if we sign cousins) 4. CB - we should sign clariborne and another CB like EJ Gaines, Breeland, Kyle Fuller or Rashaan Melvin 5. RB - the draft is stocked and we can get an excellent RB in the second round, hopefully sonny michael from georgia TE will work itself out between ASJ or some other FA, Tomlinson, and Leggett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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