TuscanyTile2 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 At the 4:47 mark of the video below Bill Parcells talks about the story of a scout pushing him to draft Tom Brady (Parcells says he has no recollection of this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 We know we know........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The Tuna is the most overrated guy out there. Missed out on Peyton because of his big fat ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, billo83 said: The Tuna is the most overrated guy out there. Missed out on Peyton because of his big fat ego And his ego is so large he won’t listen to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Add to that he is a quitter. He royally screwed over the Bucs back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The Jets are notorious for "loving" players long after they've gone on to have success with whatever other team was smart enough to draft them. The Jets always know that player XYZ was going to be great, but it's always circumstances beyond their control that prevent them from acquiring said player. I think it started in 1991, when they had Brett Favre rated as the #1 player on their board. Not having a first round draft pick, they "tried" to trade up in the second round to get Favre, but the trade "fell apart" and Favre was picked by the Falcons. Jesse Kay on Tom Brady: "I was standing on the table trying to convince Bill Parcells to draft him" Mike Tannenbaum on Russell Wilson: "Terry Bradway was pounding on the table so hard for Wilson that we started calling him Terry Wilson." Mike Maccagnan on Carson Wentz: "We inquired about moving up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Jack Straw said: The Jets are notorious for "loving" players long after they've gone on to have success with whatever other team was smart enough to draft them. The Jets always know that player XYZ was going to be great, but it's always circumstances beyond their control that prevent them from acquiring said player. I think it started in 1991, when they had Brett Favre rated as the #1 player on their board. Not having a first round draft pick, they "tried" to trade up in the second round to get Favre, but the trade "fell apart" and Favre was picked by the Falcons. Jesse Kay on Tom Brady: "I was standing on the table trying to convince Bill Parcells to draft him" Mike Tannenbaum on Russell Wilson: "Terry Bradway was pounding on the table so hard for Wilson that we started calling him Terry Wilson." Mike Maccagnan on Carson Wentz: "We inquired about moving up" Cheap grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I believe Parcells about the scout. He sounds sincere to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Brady would have been NOTHING without the refs and some other hillbilly jackwagon would be the recipient of Kraft's blackmail and bribes... Why do you think Brady takes "less" money to play?? (other than the fraud money laundering fitness account he has next to the stadium up there in that hell hole) He would have lasted as long as Mark Sanchez at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Hitman Harris said: Brady would have been NOTHING without the refs and some other hillbilly jackwagon would be the recipient of Kraft's blackmail and bribes... Why do you think Brady takes "less" money to play?? (other than the fraud money laundering fitness account he has next to the stadium up there in that hell hole) He would have lasted as long as Mark Sanchez at best. yes b/c Bill Belichick was so successful w/o him. Obviously it was all BB. I'm surprised Parcells didn't blame Al Groh. Back in 200 he gave Groh all the "credit" for trading Keyshawn and the draft then years later when it appeared to have worked out he took all the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, nyjunc said: yes b/c Bill Belichick was so successful w/o him. Obviously it was all BB. I'm surprised Parcells didn't blame Al Groh. Back in 200 he gave Groh all the "credit" for trading Keyshawn and the draft then years later when it appeared to have worked out he took all the credit. Interesting. While it's possible the scout lied about wanting Tom Brady let's also not forget that it wouldn't look good for Parcells if he put the kibosh on acquiring the greatest QB of the current era. So there certainly is an incentive for BP to lie about the scout. But of course we have no way of knowing either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Interesting. While it's possible the scout lied about wanting Tom Brady let's also not forget that it wouldn't look good for Parcells if he put the kibosh on acquiring the greatest QB of the current era. So there certainly is an incentive for BP to lie about the scout. But of course we have no way of knowing either way. BP is an all time great HC but he was also one of the shadiest guys in football. This is a guy who agreed to a deal w/ Atlanta during/after leading NYG to SB XXI. He wasn't allowed to leave or he would have. he also had an agreement w/ TB in the early 90s before backing out after a deal was reached, did the same thing to Tampa 10 years later. He also made a deal w/ us while taking his Pats team to SB XXXI. He's not exactly a trustworthy source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 **** BP and **** this nonsense about Brady on the Jets. Brady's an all-time great QB as it currently stands. No one is taking his success away from him. But similarly, there's also no telling where he'd be if it weren't for that organization from Kraft/Goodell's relationship all the way down to Belichick, Ernie Adams, Alex Guerrero, and paying Brady under the table so Belichick can constantly field competitive rosters. There are reasons that he was a backup at Michigan and a sixth round prospect that every single scout and coach and GM passed on numerous times. If BP had drafted him the way this story claims, he'd probably have been an average/slightly above average QB for us who would have retired a couple of years ago....if we even gave him a shot to get on the field in the first place. Parcell's real crimes have nothing to do with Brady. They're about the way he handled the Peyton situation which directly cost us one of the true head coach-proof, all time great QBs the league has ever seen; and the way he handled Belichick and his personal career which directly led to the infamous resignation-by-note and cost us the greatest coach/game manager of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 My favorite part of Jet Nation Dot Com is whenever someone brings up Bill Parcells the immediate reflex in half the board is to surreptitiously vent about their relationship with their fathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: **** BP and **** this nonsense about Brady on the Jets. Brady's an all-time great QB as it currently stands. No one is taking his success away from him. But similarly, there's also no telling where he'd be if it weren't for that organization from Kraft/Goodell's relationship all the way down to Belichick, Ernie Adams, Alex Guerrero, and paying Brady under the table so Belichick can constantly field competitive rosters. There are reasons that he was a backup at Michigan and a sixth round prospect that every single scout and coach and GM passed on numerous times. If BP had drafted him the way this story claims, he'd probably have been an average/slightly above average QB for us who would have retired a couple of years ago....if we even gave him a shot to get on the field in the first place. Parcell's real crimes have nothing to do with Brady. They're about the way he handled the Peyton situation which directly cost us one of the true head coach-proof, all time great QBs the league has ever seen; and the way he handled Belichick and his personal career which directly led to the infamous resignation-by-note and cost us the greatest coach/game manager of all time. he was a co-starter at Michigan b/c the other QB was the most hyped recruit in the Nation and they guaranteed he'd play. he didn't outplay Brady. it's just amazing how w/ all the other QBs BB and co were involved w/ that they couldn't win. I agree BP deserves blame for the way he handled the Peyton situation but he also deserves blame for the way he handled the BB situation which ultimately cost us Brady. The NE dynasty would be ours if not for the way BP handled the BB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, nyjunc said: he was a co-starter at Michigan b/c the other QB was the most hyped recruit in the Nation and they guaranteed he'd play. he didn't outplay Brady. it's just amazing how w/ all the other QBs BB and co were involved w/ that they couldn't win. I agree BP deserves blame for the way he handled the Peyton situation but he also deserves blame for the way he handled the BB situation which ultimately cost us Brady. The NE dynasty would be ours if not for the way BP handled the BB situation. Lol. Why is there a "but" in that post as if I have a differing view on the matter. My post (which you quoted) literally says "and the way he handled Belichick." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Lol. Why is there a "but" in that post as if I have a differing view on the matter. My post (which you quoted) literally says "and the way he handled Belichick." My mistake, I apologize. I didn't read that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: he was a co-starter at Michigan b/c the other QB was the most hyped recruit in the Nation and they guaranteed he'd play. he didn't outplay Brady. it's just amazing how w/ all the other QBs BB and co were involved w/ that they couldn't win. I agree BP deserves blame for the way he handled the Peyton situation but he also deserves blame for the way he handled the BB situation which ultimately cost us Brady. The NE dynasty would be ours if not for the way BP handled the BB situation. Stop the press Junc actually blames his man crush Parcells for something! I'm astounded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: My favorite part of Jet Nation Dot Com is whenever someone brings up Bill Parcells the immediate reflex in half the board is to surreptitiously vent about their relationship with their fathers. LOL. Who's YOUR Daddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Bill Parcells does not get the recognition that he is deserves, Bill Parcells is the worst thing that has ever happened to the NY Jets. From 1997 to today, he single handily is the architect of our doomed franchise. He would not assure Peyton he would be picked 1st He didn't listen to his people and did not draft Brady. He tried to pull a fast one on Belicheck to allow him to coach the Jets and it backfired. He is the Jets Anti-CHrist!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, JetFaninMI said: Stop the press Junc actually blames his man crush Parcells for something! I'm astounded! what are you talking about? I have always said I thank BP as a coach for turning us around but as an exec he held us back for the future. I have always bashed his drafting and how he left the cap when he left, always bashed the way he wouldn't give the Manning's an assurance he'd draft peyton and always bashed him for the way he handled the BB mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, nyjunc said: what are you talking about? I have always said I thank BP as a coach for turning us around but as an exec he held us back for the future. I have always bashed his drafting and how he left the cap when he left, always bashed the way he wouldn't give the Manning's an assurance he'd draft peyton and always bashed him for the way he handled the BB mess. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: LOL. is that your way of admitting you are wrong as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: is that your way of admitting you are wrong as usual? Dude I will respond to you after I get off work to give it the time it requires. I will say you basically shot yourself in the foot on the whole Parcells vs. BB argument though. More later. Busy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 hours ago, billo83 said: The Tuna is the most overrated guy out there. Missed out on Peyton because of his big fat ego Sorry, no. He won two Super Bowls with the Giants. Took the Pats to the Super Bowl, and the Jets to AFC Championship game. You want to take a huge dump on his ego? Fine. I agree with you there, but he is in no way overrated let alone the most overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Why would anyone think Brady would have become Brady under any of our coaching regimes? If we had drafted him, he would be a personal shopper at Barney's by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: Dude I will respond to you after I get off work to give it the time it requires. I will say you basically shot yourself in the foot on the whole Parcells vs. BB argument though. More later. Busy right now. looking forward to it, your interpretation of my posts should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, johnnysd said: Why would anyone think Brady would have become Brady under any of our coaching regimes? If we had drafted him, he would be a personal shopper at Barney's by now. yes b/c BB has developed so many great QBs in his "system". do we not recall how band of a HC BB was? how no one shed a tear when he walked out on us and how it was celebrated by fans and the media? how he was 5-11 w/ NE year 1 then 0-2 and we had beaten them 3 straight then Brady becomes started and magically BB is a genius winning 11 of the next 14 reg season games on the way to the SB and a dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, johnnysd said: Why would anyone think Brady would have become Brady under any of our coaching regimes? If we had drafted him, he would be a personal shopper at Barney's by now. I think the idea is NE's coaching regime would have been referred to as the Jets' coaching regime. Instead we got Groh, Herm, Mangini, Rex, and now Bowles (and their numerous failed coordinators on both sides of the ball). On the GM front we've had Bradway, Tannenbaum, Idzik and Maccagnan. Glory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This horse died many years ago, we still beating him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Listen, regardless of who is lying, everyone passed on Brady. I can't get nuts about it. In fact, Belichick and the Pats did so five times themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 16 hours ago, T0mShane said: My favorite part of Jet Nation Dot Com is whenever someone brings up Bill Parcells the immediate reflex in half the board is to surreptitiously vent about their relationship with their fathers. Parcells also has horrendous uncontrollable gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 7:16 AM, nyjunc said: yes b/c Bill Belichick was so successful w/o him. Obviously it was all BB. why are you quoting me about Belicheat?! I was talking, pretty clearly, about how Brady is a fraud. No mention of Belicheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Hitman Harris said: why are you quoting me about Belicheat?! I was talking, pretty clearly, about how Brady is a fraud. No mention of Belicheat. How is Brady a fraud if BB was a total failure w/o him and then instantly made NE great the moment he stepped on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 hours ago, nyjunc said: How is Brady a fraud if BB was a total failure w/o him and then instantly made NE great the moment he stepped on the field? Bro...... Broooo.... They got this little thing you must not have ever heard about... called.... CHEATING... and another called REFS and RIGGING. Both of which I clearly referenced. lol wat U WOT M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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