JetNation Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 With reports of the Jets’ plans to elevate quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates to offensive coordinator, one has to wonder if they hired the guy they wanted, or did Todd Bowles get tired of waiting on John DeFilippo? The Philadelphia Eagles quarterbacks coach has been on Bowles’ radar since last season when the Eagles denied Gang Green the opportunity to interview the highly regarded QB coach. After firing offensive coordinator John Morton, some believed DeFilippo was in Bowles’ crosshairs once again. Now, after waiting more than a week to name a successor to Morton, it looks like Bates is the guy less than 24 hours after the Eagles advanced to the Super Bowl, meaning another two-week wait for Bowles if he was in fact targeting DeFilippo. If Bates was the choice all along, then it would come across as a bit odd to wait this long to hand him the promotion, although there were some who thought the Jets would have to find out from Bates if he was going to be “all in” for the promotion. As I reported last week, #Jets had internal discussions about promoting Jeremy Bates to OC only if he was all-in for the job. NYJ to likely add a run-game coordinator if he's hired. Fair to consider him the favorite at this point: https://t.co/c7OaWOksE0 pic.twitter.com/DY3NruNxE4 — Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) January 18, 2018 That in itself being another oddity as you might think that any questions regarding commitment would strike any name off of the list of potential candidates. As the offensive coordinator for Pete Carroll’s Seahawks back in 2010, Seattle ranked 23rd in scoring offense with Marshawn Lynch averaging 3.5 yards per carry, the lowest total of his 11-year career. Meanwhile, quarterback Matt Hasselbeck tied a career high with 17 interceptions and had a career low of 12 touchdowns (at least 14 starts) so while the numbers may not be pretty, Todd Bowles clearly sees something he likes in Bates. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 When all else fails............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Did somebody say “ run-game coordinator “ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Let’s be honest, what offensive coordinator of any merit is coming on board with a sinking ship of a defensive minded coach who wants to run an offense that isn’t really constituted for today’s NFL? Bowles hired who he could because no one else wanted a one year gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Its really a shame we have to waste a year or two, while we go through the motions pretending that Mac and Bowles have any chance of being the long term answer. Nobody with another option takes this gig, nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 hours ago, NoBowles said: Its really a shame we have to waste a year or two, while we go through the motions pretending that Mac and Bowles have any chance of being the long term answer. Nobody with another option takes this gig, nobody. Only caveat might be someone might take it if they thought it gave them the inside position on replacing Bowles. It's a stretch, though, as far more often the baby's thrown out with the bathwater and a clean slate is ushered in. Coordinators get more easily promoted to HC on their own team if the HC quits/retires not if they're fired for lack of success. Not to mention the leaks that they fired Morton because he passed too often in this pass-happy era - even in the face of some unexpected success with freaking Josh McCown and a crappy OL - and if you don't run the ball instead, to eat up clock and keep Bowles' defense off the field for fewer minutes per game, you will be fired after 1 season as well. Obviously any great next-young-thing who envisions putting up gobs of points and making a name for himself is going to see working for Bowles as a real opportunity. If this is a major opportunity for some, it's because they have no other opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The Jets jumped the gun on extending Bowles. Arizona just hired Steve wilks a guy with less connections to Zona and a smaller resume than Bowles had. I would have been so happy to get some kind of late round pick compensation to let the Cards have Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I am officially predicting that Bates is not our OC this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: I am officially predicting that Bates is not our OC this time next year. As opposed to all the unofficial predictions on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The Jets jumped the gun on extending Bowles. Arizona just hired Steve wilks a guy with less connections to Zona and a smaller resume than Bowles had. I would have been so happy to get some kind of late round pick compensation to let the Cards have Bowles. Extending Bowles actually has ZERO effect on whether they could trade him or not. If they wanted to, and if Arizona wanted to, they could make a trade. With Bowles permission, of course. But, you are just posting your own pipe dream that has no connection to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, JetNation said: As the offensive coordinator for Pete Carroll’s Seahawks back in 2010, Seattle ranked 23rd in scoring offense with Marshawn Lynch averaging 3.5 yards per carry, the lowest total of his 11-year career. Meanwhile, quarterback Matt Hasselbeck tied a career high with 17 interceptions and had a career low of 12 touchdowns (at least 14 starts) so while the numbers may not be pretty, Todd Bowles clearly sees something he likes in Bates. Yup. Jetsy! /chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Did somebody say “ run-game coordinator “ ? What were the chances that we would end up replacing Rex with his a tanner quieter version of him minus the defensive genius part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The Jets jumped the gun on extending Bowles. Arizona just hired Steve wilks a guy with less connections to Zona and a smaller resume than Bowles had. I would have been so happy to get some kind of late round pick compensation to let the Cards have Bowles. I don't know if they could have traded him after finding someone else; that stuff is tough to keep contained. But they definitely extended Bowles too early (and by definition, extending him at all is automatically extending him too early). Ultimately CJ extended Bowles because he specifically wants Bowles, above anyone else who might have presented as an option, which says plenty about his own judgment. He only did it that early so Bowles could then fire Morton and that's that. No other OC candidates seemed to share CJ's optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 They’re going to change everything next year anyway so next years OC doesn’t ******* matter unless he’s the next HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Extending Bowles actually has ZERO effect on whether they could trade him or not. If they wanted to, and if Arizona wanted to, they could make a trade. With Bowles permission, of course. But, you are just posting your own pipe dream that has no connection to reality. Yeah all that is left for the average fan is pipe dreams instead of the horror of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, legler82 said: What were the chances that we would end up replace Rex with his a tanner quieter version of him minus the defensive genius part? Right ? Rex took just about the same D from mangini and brought it from #25 to #1. His D let up like 130 fewer points than mangina D let up in 08. That has to be a record turn around. I’m ok with a guru who can dominate that side of the ball, and get a OC Who runs the O. Todd Bowles gets all the picks he wants, but clearly he isn’t even in the same league as Rex was. Bowles can’t handle the D, and wants to dictate what the team does on Offense? where he really does know what is going on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patriot Killa Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Right ? Rex took just about the same D from mangini and brought it from #25 to #1. His D let up like 130 fewer points than mangina D let up in 08. I’m ok with a guru who can dominate that side of the ball, and get a OC Who runs the O. Todd Bowles gets all the picks he wants, but clearly he isn’t even in the same league as Rex was. Bowles can’t handle the D, and wants to dictate what the team does on Offense? where he really does know what is going on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 "Clearly the Jets know something that the rest of us don't." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Lizard King said: "Clearly the Jets know something that the rest of us don't." Yeah. like what their plan is, and was related to the position. But guessing at what they were thinking is fun, so......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Defilipo might get head coaching interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Geeeet a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The real question is, does Bowles even know who Bates is, and how quickly will he throw him under the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Defilipo might get head coaching interviews Wonder if Bowles worried that if DeFilippo was hired as OC, and Mac finally got real pieces on offense for him. What would happen to Todd Bowles if the offense became the strength ? And Bowles D with all his blue chip draft picks are still not very good ? Bowles out, deflippo promoted to HC wouldn’t be a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Did somebody say “ run-game coordinator “ ? Nah, Tony will be the "Field Goal Coordinator". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Nah, Tony will be the "Field Goal Coordinator". Todd Bowles says he wants to “build around the punt game “ this offseason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Larz said: Defilipo might get head coaching interviews there aren't any hc openings left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Larz said: Defilipo might get head coaching interviews 5 minutes ago, C Mart said: there aren't any hc openings left It’s going to be something more funny like Patriots’ new OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, SenorGato said: It’s going to be something more funny like Patriots’ new OC Actually... you are probably right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Wonder if Bowles worried that if DeFilippo was hired as OC, and Mac finally got real pieces on offense for him. What would happen to Todd Bowles if the offense became the strength ? And Bowles D with all his blue chip draft picks are still not very good ? Bowles out, deflippo promoted to HC wouldn’t be a stretch. yeah...I'm sure that's what he was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Browns hiring Haley as their OC. Coaches rather go to the Browns now then the Jets. Start the onslaught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, SenorGato said: It’s going to be something more funny like Patriots’ new OC Possibly AZ for DeFilppo... As for Pats: Maybe wide receivers coach Chad O’Shea will be the next offensive coordinator, or maybe it’ll be assistant quarterbacks coach Jerry Schuplinski. Replacing him will not be easy, but there is one name that stands out to potentially be the next offensive coordinator: wide receiver coach Chad O’Shea. He has been with the team for nine seasons now and has spent 15 seasons in the NFL. He has helped smaller receivers like Wes Welker and Julian Edelman play at an elite level, and has not had a many high profile receivers to work with. And yet, Patriots receivers still flourish in the offense. O’Shea also called plays in Week 4 of the 2017 preseason, likely for practice in the event the team lost McDaniels at the end of the season. He is well respected by the players and coaches within the organizations, and seems to be the obvious candidate for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, C Mart said: yeah...I'm sure that's what he was thinking. You are right, he is not smart enough to think like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: I am officially predicting that Bates is not our OC this time next year. Looking at stats He has a 1 in 10 chances of making to yr 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Warfish said: Yup. Jetsy! /chuckle. And in '08 he put up the #1 offense in the AFC, #2 or #3 overall. No offense to Glenn, but this is a borderline Manish Mehta/Rich Cimini clickbait article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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