JetBlue Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2018/01/nfl_draft_2018_mason_rudolph_scouting_report_surpr.html By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com As the Jets prepare for the 2018 NFL Draft, there will be a lot of speculation about which quarterback they could draft sixth overall. Could Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, andJosh Allen all be options? Sure. They're considered the big three quarterback prospects in this draft. But what about Oklahoma State quarterback Mason Rudolph? Let's take a look at some scouting reports for Rudolph. Rob Ferguson | USA TODAY Sports Rudolph is actually rated as the No. 1 quarterback prospect in this draft by CBSSports.com, which rates him as the No. 10 overall prospect. So for what it's worth, at least one outlet likes him the best of all these 2018 draft quarterbacks. Now, let's take a look at what the scouting reports have to say. THE MEASUREABLES Rudolph has the prototypical NFL quarterback size that Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan has typically looked for in a signal caller. Rudolph is a big dude — 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds, at least according to his Oklahoma State bio. We'll see what he measures and weighs in at when he attends the NFL Scouting Combine. But it's pretty clear he isn't a small dude. THE STATS Like Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield, Rudolph is a senior, so he has lots of experience. Rudolph, who turns 23 in July, started for three years at Oklahoma State. As a senior, he threw for 4,904 yards, 37 touchdowns, and nine interceptions. So he has the body of work. WALTER FOOTBALL "Rudolph will need development as a pro. He will have to work on his shaky accuracy and field vision, plus get used to playing under center and calling plays in the huddle. Rudolph is also not very athletic, though he has good size with average arm strength. Going through progressions and reading the field are problems for Rudolph, and he has to improve there for the NFL. His anticipation is terrible, too, and that will have to improve for the pros, or he could be taking a lot of sacks from holding onto the ball too long." MATT BOWEN, ESPN "Rudolph is the model of consistency in the Oklahoma State system. He has the size and toughness in the pocket that NFL scouts want. And he has played a ton of football -- 38 starts for the Cowboys. He has improved in every season. I see enough pop in his arm to challenge over the top or outside of the numbers. I wouldn't expect Rudolph to wow scouts in athletic testing. He's not a quick-twitch athlete. I don't see the lateral movement skills or the sudden glimpse of speed on tape. He can pull the ball down to run on designed schemes or when the pocket starts to fold up, but he's not a natural athlete. Scouts are also going to question the Cowboys' run-pass option system that produces plenty of open windows for Rudolph to deliver the ball." MATT MILLER, BLEACHER REPORT "Mason Rudolph has incredible numbers operating in Mike Gundy's wide-open Oklahoma State scheme. He carried a Day 3 grade into the season but has shown improved accuracy, decision-making and pocket presence. If you follow Bill Parcells' quarterback rules, you'll love Mason Rudolph. Of Parcells' four rules, Rudolph checks the box on all of them." GEORGE STOCKBURGER, FANSIDED "Physically, Rudolph reminds me of Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz coming out of North Dakota State. Both stand at 6’5 and around 230 lbs coming out of college with long legs and a strong arm. He’s athletic enough to avoid pass rushers and despite being under pressure he’ll step up in the pocket with his eyes always downfield. Rudolph typically has good footwork but occasionally his legs will get out of sync, leading to rushed and misthrows. His pocket awareness is also up for scrutiny but he was able to show the ability to avoid pressure by stepping up in the pocket and taking only 22 sacks all year." ROBERT QUINN, USA TODAY "Rudolph certainly looks the part, standing 6-foot-5, 230-pounds. He’s got a strong enough arm and possesses underrated athleticism, having played tight end before making the switch to quarterback. Rudolph is a bit of an odd prospect, as he tends to be more accurate with deep shots that travel 25-30 yards downfield than he is on standard short-to-intermediate passes. Due to the quick-strike nature of the [Oklahoma State] offense, there are legitimate concerns regarding Rudolph’s ability to quickly go through progressions, as he spent three seasons in a one-read, rhythm throwing offense." PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS "Outstanding feel for throwing the deep out/comeback, even from the far hashmark in college football. Feel for throwing passes along the sideline is unmatched in college football. Though he’ll float some deep passes, has excellent accuracy at 20-plus yards whether leading receivers into space or throwing more on a line. Arm strength comes and goes. Will throw some passes with good zip and others seem to be lacking. Must improve his short-area accuracy, particularly on 'catch-and-throw' type of routes. Perhaps a hand size issue?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 What?? Why the **** would the Jets or any other team take a 2nd day guy at 6?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 No freekin way. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 LOLOLLOLOLOL... wtf is wrong with this author? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: LOLOLLOLOLOL... wtf is wrong with this author? And WTF is wrong with cbssports.com. They actually do have Rudolph ranked as their highest QB. Someone is stealing their money every time they cash their paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I always wondered when Sooth was going to show up here and try to deep six the place like he did JI. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Right state. Wrong college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 What a joke of an article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 That’s a No for me dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I know we love to over Draft QB's but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 How are you 6'5 and have possible hand size issues ?lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Mason Rudolph at 6? NJ.com vomit :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Second or third best qb in the draft but moot point we’re getting Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, bla bla bla said: What a joke of an article This is the state of the Jets beat outside of Cimini and Mehta: “Yooooo what about Mason Rudolph here are a few blurbs I cut and pasted I’m a journalist lol” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 big 12 Qb with gaudy numbers ? I'll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Nj.com also just ran a ridiculous, what I guess they thought was success story, article on Kenny Britt Was supposed to be hometown boy goes from 0-13 team to possible Super Bowl champion But they forgot he got cut from the Browns because he was absolutely dogging it and doesn’t play at all for the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: LOLOLLOLOLOL... wtf is wrong with this author? I know...it's like saying "let's take Baker Mayfield with the 6th pick". Bad Crazy man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 hours ago, New York Mick said: What?? Why the **** would the Jets or any other team take a 2nd day guy at 6?? I read prototypical and threw in my mouth a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, peebag said: I know...it's like saying "let's take Baker Mayfield with the 6th pick". Bad Crazy man! We can talk about it if you want.): I personally find them to be two extremely different players outside of scheme and competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I read prototypical and threw in my mouth a bit. Being a scout or draft report/“expert” has to be the easiest job in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I’d rather trade down and draft Lamar Jackson at the end of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 hahahhaahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, August said: I’d rather trade down and draft Lamar Jackson at the end of the 1st round. I think he will go A LOT earlier than people project him to go. Having said that, bring in Cousins for a boat load of cash and trade down. Assuming the Jets keep most of their starter FAs like Claiborne, D.Davis and Enunwa, and let Wilk walk...they still need to adress the O-line, DE, OLB/Pass Rusher, CB (please cut Skrine), and RB (time to cut Forte). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 If we don’t get Cousins, or Bridgewater. Then we should bring back McCown and draft a quarterback. We can’t put all our eggs in one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I really liked Rudolph to start of the year based on his completion percentage and low interceptions but watching a few of his games showed more of a project - I would not be happy if he was the pick at 6 but 2nd round would be fine, his bad games were better than hack ever looked, not that is saying much but would be an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 if he's there in the 6th round.. possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 What's hysterical about this thread, is everyone on here sh*tting all over this idea but drooling over Baker Mayfield. The difference between the 2? One is tall and has a big arm and looks like an NFL QB. The other is short and has a mediocre arm and is a nut case...but boy is he firey!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 In general, I have issues with QBs coming out of that conference. It is a gunslinger mentality out there, and very tough to gauge the level of competition they see on a week in, week out basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 23 hours ago, New York Mick said: Being a scout or draft report/“expert” has to be the easiest job in the world. No true accountability if you're wrong, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 10:33 PM, JetBlue said: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2018/01/nfl_draft_2018_mason_rudolph_scouting_report_surpr.html By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com As the Jets prepare for the 2018 NFL Draft, there will be a lot of speculation about which quarterback they could draft sixth overall. Could Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, andJosh Allen all be options? Sure. They're considered the big three quarterback prospects in this draft. But what about Oklahoma State quarterback Mason Rudolph? Let's take a look at some scouting reports for Rudolph. Going through progressions and reading the field are problems for Rudolph, and he has to improve there for the NFL. His anticipation is terrible, too, and that will have to improve for the pros, or he could be taking a lot of sacks from holding onto the ball too long." Why I dont want him: "Going through progressions and reading the field are problems for Rudolph" Steve Young said Progression Reads (3 to 4 without tipping hand to Defense and doing it in the pocket circle) is #1 attribute to make a great QB. He also said you HAVE to have it coming into the NFL. Its not something you learn in NFL (you may refine). he said if you are bad at it in college, you will never be great at it in NFL. FYI: he said #2 attribute is to be able to move that 1 to 1 1/2 steps forward or at a 45 degree angle to right and left in the pocket cause it buys enuf time for that extra Progression Read) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, SouthernJet said: Why I dont want him: "Going through progressions and reading the field are problems for Rudolph" Steve Young said Progression Reads (3 to 4 without tipping hand to Defense and doing it in the pocket circle) is #1 attribute to make a great QB. He also said you HAVE to have it coming into the NFL. Its not something you learn in NFL (you may refine). he said if you are bad at it in college, you will never be great at it in NFL. FYI: he said #2 attribute is to be able to move that 1 to 1 1/2 steps forward or at a 45 degree angle to right and left in the pocket cause it buys enuf time for that extra Progression Read) Curious...when did Steve Young say this because 95% of college QB's play in 1 to 2 reads systems, mostly just reading one side of the field. I'd be willing to bet that there isnt a single college QB being asked to go through 4 progressions anymore. In addition, they're all quick strike offenses these days too, so that pocket work he's talking about rarely happens because it's not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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