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Poll: Cousins vs. First Round QB

nj meadowlands

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Cousins vs. First Round QB  

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  1. 1. What would you prefer the Jets do?

    • Sign Kirk Cousins
      69
    • Draft Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield somewhere in the top 6
      64
    • Both
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nj meadowlands

nj meadowlands

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Just curious what the group consensus is here.  Would you prefer the Jets sign Kirk Cousins to a big money deal, or draft a QB somewhere in the Top 6?  I am a very SLIGHT lean to drafting a QB at 6, just for purposes of hopefully finding a very long-term, cost-controlled QB that gives us the financial ability to improve other parts of the roster.  But if the Jets sign Cousins, I admit that I will also jump for joy.

PS - there is no Josh Allen option here. 

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Cousins

We’d have to trade away multiple picks for Darnold and even though I love the kid, he’s certainly not a sure thing.

And I don’t want anything to do with Rosen at this point. Talented guy, for sure. But has an extremely thin frame, already has a surgically repaired right shoulder, and suffered 2 concussions last year alone. And get this...his dad is a neurosurgeon. One more blow to the head and this guy could walk away from the game leaving us with nothing but our dicks in our hands. Screw that.

And I’m still not even sold on Mayfield being a Top 10 pick when the draft rolls around.

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Cousins brings us stability at QB for the next 4-5 Years. It allows us to use our picks to build an O line which we desperately need and the rest of FA to add a player or two on defense. Essentially it allows us to make a run for championship the next few years

Drafting a QB not named Darnold or Rosen simply creates more ?? 

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If we had a top 2 pick then QB I would draft one.  But the uncertainty of who may be available at #6 and also the cost of moving up to draft one of them  makes me rather spend the $$ on Cousins.  

As a few have said before, tons of cap space available the same off season as a borderline top 10 qb becomes available is like the appearance of the orange moon this morning.  It just doesn't happen often.    As for the rookies, we can only hope that one of them can become a Kirk Cousins.  Of course we want better than that but the odds are much higher for any of them to be a top 5 QB. 

 

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nj meadowlands

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Just now, kennyo7 said:

Cousins brings us stability at QB for the next 4-5 Years. It allows us to use our picks to build an O line which we desperately need and the rest of FA to add a player or two on defense. Essentially it allows us to make a run for championship the next few years

Drafting a QB not named Darnold or Rosen simply creates more ?? 

I don't mind this line of reasoning.  Forget for a second whether Cousins gives us a chance to ultimately win a Super Bowl, he will at least make the team competitive and perhaps allow the Jets to do what the Chiefs just did with Alex Smith (i.e., get some great seasons out of him, draft a young QB)

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Move up and draft a QB. Best QB class in recent memory - Redskins don't think Cousins is a special QB and they see him every day. We pass on this draft class and the top QBs turn out to be top 5 QBs - that would be bordering on insanity to take that risk. You can't be afraid to be great by going with the safer option. If Cousins was special he would never be allowed to leave. To me, going with the safer option and signing Cousins is more about Mac and Bowles keeping their jobs by being 'good enough,' instead of being about what's best for the franchise and sustained success. If they can't develop the QB, which, by the way, I hear is not true. I think Bates can absolutely develop one of the young guys. The fact that Petty and Hack aren't progressing I think has more to do with them than Bates. 

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I prefer we do whatever it takes to get Rosen. Yeah he has had a shoulder surgery, but it and his throws look great this year. Kid is super intelligent, accurate downfield and has a great throwing motion and footwork.

If Rosen is gone the its Darnold.

I would not be upset if we got either of these 2 and for me they are the only 2 guys we should try to move up for. 

 

THAT BEING SAID I DO NOT HAVE ANY FAITH IN TODD BOWLES' and his ability to bring a young QB along to be successful which is why I get a stronger feeling we are going to get Cousins.

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1 minute ago, Mike135 said:

All are at least good options.

Though I'd prefer a rookie and using the saved 30 million on the oline.

This.  I think signing Cousins is a waste of a qb because this team is far from competing for a championship.  Build your team and your qb.

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I'd do both, depending on who falls to us.  If Darnold fell to us at 6 I'd take him and figure it out later.  A team like the Eagles showed that you can never have too much Qbing.

They get bradford and chase daniel, they draft wentz.  People laugh at them for being stupid.  They trade Bradford for a nice haul, they dump Daniel, they get foles.  All the while knowing that wentz is their guy.

They are in the super bowl becasue they had a solid plan B at QB.

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kennyo7

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45 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

All are at least good options.

Though I'd prefer a rookie and using the saved 30 million on the oline.

I’m not sure you can build the oline through FA this year. If you can trade down and pick up a few draft picks you can rebuild the o line and get a very good RB at the same time. The draft has many good OT and C options not to mention deep in RB. Put Cousins behind a good o line and give us a running game and now we are talking about a pretty solid offense. 

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Unless the contract is ridiculous, I'm in favor of the Jets signing Cousins and drafting a solid QB prospect in Round 2-4 to develop. That would position the Jets perfectly to be a contender (assuming they plug some holes in FA) and to build for the future. This option would allow the Jets also to draft OL and RB fairly early. A win-win.

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3 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Unless the contract is ridiculous, I'm in favor of the Jets signing Cousins and drafting a solid QB prospect in Round 2-4 to develop. That would position the Jets perfectly to be a contender (assuming they plug some holes in FA) and to build for the future. This option would allow the Jets also to draft OL and RB fairly early. A win-win.

Totally agree with this. I don’t think any of the QBs coming out are as much of a sure thing as people made them out to be. They all have warts and are a gamble. I’d much rather take a solid/steady QB who has shown he can play in this league at a high level and use the picks to fix our O line and RB. We can pick a Luke Falk or that kid from Western Kentucky to develop in a later round 

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The story goes Cousins is a top tier QB who hasn't won because of the talent around him. Based on that, what makes us think he will win here? Do we have more talent than the Skins now? If no, why will we in the future given what Mac has done in the past 3 years?

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The options should be: 

1. Sign Cousins (for a boat load of $$$$)

2. Draft Mayfield, Allen or another QB with the 6th pick (Rosen and Darnold will be off the board- I guarantee they are going 1 and 2)

Once you put it this way, it's clear the Jets need to make a push for Cousins. IMO. And I'm not sure why you put both on there b/c drafting a QB at 6 (Mayfield/Allen) makes absolutely no sense if you believe enough in Cousins to sign him to a monster deal in FA.   

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I do not want to give up picks to move up for sure. Right now I lean towards Cousins even though outrageous salary and try to build the other areas with picks like offensive line because if we do not support him that money is going to waste

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nj meadowlands

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1 minute ago, PepPep said:

The options should be: 

1. Sign Cousins (for a boat load of $$$$)

2. Draft Mayfield, Allen or another QB with the 6th pick (Rosen and Darnold will be off the board- I guarantee they are going 1 and 2)

Once you put it this way, it's clear the Jets need to make a push for Cousins. IMO. And I'm not sure why you put both on there b/c drafting a QB at 6 (Mayfield/Allen) makes absolutely no sense if you believe enough in Cousins to sign him to a monster deal in FA.   

A few fallacies in here.  The second option includes either staying put at #6, or moving up wherever in the top 6 is necessary to get the one they want.

"Believing enough in Cousins" and actually signing him are not mutually exclusive. The Jets could offer him the key to city hall and he could still go to Denver.

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Just now, legler82 said:

The story goes Cousins is a top tier QB who hasn't won because of the talent around him. Based on that, what makes us think he will win here? Do we have more talent than the Skins now? If no, why will we in the future given what Mac has done in the past 3 years?

Not sure if he is top tier. What we know is that he is a capable starter in this league who has almost 60 starts under his belt, has completed 65% if his throws, about 100 TDs to 55 INTs with a QBR in the mid 90s. Your getting a proven solid QB for the next 4-5 Years  

In the draft your not sure what your getting. The most NFL ready QB is Rosen who may be a head case  None of the other guys are ready to step right in and start on day 1. Especially on this team. Plus unless you give up picks to trade up, you are not likely to get Darnold or Rosen. So you are looking at Mayfield or Allen. Are either of these guys certain to give you what cousins gives you the next 3-4 Years?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, #bman said:

Sign Cousins. Worry about drafting a QB in a few years. 

Not a bad strategy. Trade down and get McGlinchey in the first and draft Billy Price and Sony Michel in the second. Suddenly we have a pretty good offense 

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Another thing I think Cousins will consider - the Patriots are in the same division as the Jets. In order to make a deep run in the playoffs you need to win your division. How likely is that for the next few years? On the other hand, going to Denver or Jacksonville there would be a much better chance of coming in first in the division. 

 

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One important point: QBs respect Bates as a strong offensive mind. He absolutely can develop a QB. Bowles has pretty much nothing to do with developing a QB. I don't think it's fair to hold Petty and Hack against him, since they may not have the talent to succeed in the NFL. So, drafting a QB is my preference. I'd rather not play it safe and shoot for the moon and stop taking the easy way out. 

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Just now, Greensleeves said:

Another thing I think Cousins will consider - the Patriots are in the same division as the Jets. In order to make a deep run in the playoffs you need to win your division. How likely is that for the next few years? On the other hand, going to Denver or Jacksonville there would be a much better chance of coming in first in the division. 

 

With Denver you have a Gruden led young and talented Oakland team plus a pretty good KC led by Andy Reid and Charger team that is also pretty good. At least with pats you know that once Brady is out they are done. I’m he’s over 40 for Christ sake

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