whodeawhodat Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Played 97% of def snaps for the pats this season. not 1 snap on defense last night. I think the stat was 0-4 vs gilmore and 11-14 vs all other DBs lined up over WRs pre snap. Malcom was pissssssed. will be a FA next year. Lil Bill cut off his nose to spite his face last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 IDK WHAT the deal was with Butler .. it it was really weird to say the least. He must have F-d up in some kind of way in the week leading to the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 LOL, I don't care either. I also think Butler is kind of overrated by most people because the only remember his INT in the Super Bowl. He to me is not a special CB, a number 2 if you have a good 1CB and he only has to play the 2nd best WR. He has value to a team he just should not get #1 CB $$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 They said Butler was sick, and in the hospital. Maybe bill was pissed he didn’t “tough it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 He should be happy. Now he can say they lost because he wasn’t playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Butler is an above average CB but not worth #1 CB money his agent will be looking for. Mediocre salary? Sure, I'm on board, he's definitely better than Skrine as 3rd CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I would have no problem signing Bulter, I don't think he'll get top CB money. I see us going after Trumaine Johnson though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, New York Mick said: He should be happy. Now he can say they lost because he wasn’t playing. Pretty much what he said in his comments after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/02/04/where-is-one-of-the-patriots-best-players/ MINNEAPOLIS — In what may have been his final game as a Patriot, Malcolm Butler watched most of it from the sideline. The cornerback was mysteriously benched in favor of Eric Rowe. Butler had the flu earlier in the week and did not travel here with the team, but coach Bill Belichick said Butler was healthy and he also said it was not a disciplinary matter. Butler, who was seen crying on the sideline during the national anthem, played on special teams in the game, just not defense. He left the locker room without speaking to reporters, but told ESPN: “They gave up on me. F—. It is what it is.” Butler is scheduled to be a free agent in March and now certainly appears like a goner from New England. It is hard to believe after he was the hero of Super Bowl XLIX just three years ago when he intercepted the Seahawks’ Russell Wilson at the goal line to win the game. Belichick would not say what the reason was for Butler’s benching. “We put the players out there and the game plan out there that we thought would be the best tonight, like we always do,” Belichick said. Rowe, who said he found out just before kickoff he was starting, struggled in Butler’s place, giving up a few long throws, including a 34-yard touchdown to Alshon Jeffrey in the first quarter. Butler had a strange season for the Patriots. He admitted earlier this year that the fact the Patriots signed Stephon Gilmore to a five-year, $65 million deal last offseason bothered him. He was negotiating at the same time with the Patriots. This year, he was benched in Week 2 and his play was not up to the level he showed earlier in his career. “Anything that happened to me is my fault,” Butler told the MMQB.com this week. “It has nothing to do with anything else, it’s possible to just have a s—-y season. It is what it is. I’m just worried about the Eagles.” Even after what he considers a down year, Butler will have plenty of suitors if he reaches free agency. Last year, the Saints talked about acquiring him as part of the Brandin Cooks trade. The Jets are going to be in the cornerback market and may look to steal one of their rivals’ players. They would know they were getting someone with some serious Super Bowl pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/ex-patriot-roasts-bill-belichick-over-bizarre-decision/ Brandon Browner was as confused as the rest of us, and a lot more angry. The former Patriots cornerback — and apparent New York Post reader — teed off on social media over Bill Belichick’s stunning decision to bench cornerback Malcolm Butler in their 41-33 Super LII loss to the Eagles. “A locker room was divided pre game, most yds ever given in up in a SB game, and your best defender over the past 3 seasons. Doesn’t get a snap. You where hurt/burnt where he was needed tonight.. #foolishpride,” Browner wrote on Instagram. Browner was teammates in 2014 with Butler, who sealed the Super Bowl win over the Seahawks with an interception. He would have no chance for such heroics Sunday night. The Patriots coach claimed it was for football, not disciplinary reasons, that Butler did not play on defense (he did appear on the special teams). If true, it was a historically awful decision, as Butler’s replacement, Eric Rowe, was overmatched against the Eagles receivers. –– ADVERTISEMENT –– thanks for watching! Butler, who was nearly traded to the Saints this past offseason, now will hit free agency, and it’s extremely likely he has played his last snap with the Patriots. The 27-year-old bolted the locker room before speaking to a group of reporters, but did tell ESPN that, “They gave up on me. F–k. It is what it is.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Probably a combination of getting to Minneapolis a day later than the team due to illness, and being 2 inches shorter than Rowe Cheaters ran a lot of big nickel, they wanted size out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Apparently preempting his free agent status he cleaned out his locker before he left Foxborough,Mass. that may have been a factor in his benching as well as missing the charter flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 http://dailysnark.com/report-malcom-butler-didnt-play-missed-curfew-got-caught-weed/Here it comes...Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I'm putting money on the fact that he signs with Jets. Mac is gona get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: http://dailysnark.com/report-malcom-butler-didnt-play-missed-curfew-got-caught-weed/ Here it comes... Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Just seen this on Facebook. Yep. He’s not getting a big contract this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Gangrene said: Apparently preempting his free agent status he cleaned out his locker before he left Foxborough,Mass. that may have been a factor in his benching as well as missing the charter flight. It's the Super Bowl. The time to take stands and to set examples has long past. If Bellicheat is content with 5 SBs and would rather to stand on principal, good for him. But something tells me that he thought he could win without Butler or that Butler's absence wasn't going be as big of a deal. In hindsight, this will likely haunt Bellicheat even with all those rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 So he smokes a little weed. If not too expensive cut Skrine & let him get his revenge 2 times a year. Would love a Butler/Trumaine Johnson duo, with a reupped Clairborne. With Adams, Maye, Brooks safety trio, the backend could be sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 One reason the pats have been good for so long aside from brady of course is that they have an org that dos mess around with player behavior. He f'd around at the wrong time. Do your job, team first. Meanwhile our coach jokes about being late, pats the heads of the guys who are problems and lets some players get away with a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: http://dailysnark.com/report-malcom-butler-didnt-play-missed-curfew-got-caught-weed/ Here it comes... Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 21 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Just seen this on Facebook. Yep. He’s not getting a big contract this offseason. Yeah. That's believable. He smoked weed, so they bench him on D, but not on punt return? GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It's more believable that they were scared to play him because Jeffery is tall enough to abuse him outside and he is too small to stand up to the run duties of the slot. Otherwise, why would Belichick say that it wasn't discipline related when questioned? Why not stick with "no comment." Am I supposed to believe that BB is now Buddy Ryan saying "He only catches touchdowns" to protect the player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpoppy717 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: It's more believable that they were scared to play him because Jeffery is tall enough to abuse him outside and he is too small to stand up to the run duties of the slot. Otherwise, why would Belichick say that it wasn't discipline related when questioned? Why not stick with "no comment." Am I supposed to believe that BB is now Buddy Ryan saying "He only catches touchdowns" to protect the player? Belichick's not noted for being forthcoming with press. Butler supposedly practiced with 1s throughout the week. Even if it was based on thinking Butler was bad matchup vs Eagles, at some point during the game Belichick would've realized that his D sucked, maybe Butler could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, jpoppy717 said: Belichick's not noted for being forthcoming with press. Butler supposedly practiced with 1s throughout the week. Even if it was based on thinking Butler was bad matchup vs Eagles, at some point during the game Belichick would've realized that his D sucked, maybe Butler could help. Bill Belichick cares more about weed than winning? That would surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 We have to sign Butler and re-up Claiborne. I love the idea of an angry exPat in our defensive backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Butler couldn't resist smoking weed and going out late in the 2 weeks between the AFC title game and the Superbowl? To me the guy is a bozo if that's the case. I want nothing to do with the guy. It has nothing to do with weed either. It's just about discipline before the biggest game of the year. It was Butler's own fault. And Belichick retains credibility within the locker room when he tells players the rules are the rules. They could've won without him (and almost did). Todd Bowles gave Mo Wilk chances over several seasons before finally realizing that approach doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: It's the Super Bowl. The time to take stands and to set examples has long past. If Bellicheat is content with 5 SBs and would rather to stand on principal, good for him. But something tells me that he thought he could win without Butler or that Butler's absence wasn't going be as big of a deal. In hindsight, this will likely haunt Bellicheat even with all those rings. I honestly don't think he cares about anything other than doing things his way. He lost this gamble but he wins most of them with his iron disciple. Bill Belechick will loose no sleep over this this, nor should he. He's a freak but it freakin' works for him. Cheating or not, Bill will gets to walk off in his tatty sweatshirt, his millions all on his own terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Makes no sense for him to be benched... but play special teams. If it was a disciplinary thing, why play him at all? In fact, where let him dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Butler couldn't resist smoking weed and going out late in the 2 weeks between the AFC title game and the Superbowl? To me the guy is a bozo if that's the case. I want nothing to do with the guy. It has nothing to do with weed either. It's just about discipline before the biggest game of the year. It was Butler's own fault. And Belichick retains credibility within the locker room when he tells players the rules are the rules. They could've won without him (and almost did). Todd Bowles gave Mo Wilk chances over several seasons before finally realizing that approach doesn't work. He had a bad season, in any event. People remember him for that big play in the SB but lately he just hasn't been that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I got no problem with signing him and letting him take his frustration out on the Pats twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: One reason the pats have been good for so long aside from brady of course is that they have an org that dos mess around with player behavior. He f'd around at the wrong time. Do your job, team first. Meanwhile our coach jokes about being late, pats the heads of the guys who are problems and lets some players get away with a lot. This. There's a time and place for everything. The day before the Super Bowl is not the time for such shenanigans. It's not some great sacrifice to stay sober for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Butler had a rough practice, was sick, and kind of butted heads with coaches and players. Not the week to do that during the biggest game of your career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 hours ago, kevinc855 said: I'm putting money on the fact that he signs with Jets. Mac is gona get him Dang straight, he doesn't play offense. He is on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 20 hours ago, Stark said: LOL, I don't care either. I also think Butler is kind of overrated by most people because the only remember his INT in the Super Bowl. He to me is not a special CB, a number 2 if you have a good 1CB and he only has to play the 2nd best WR. He has value to a team he just should not get #1 CB $$$$ Agreed, another Santonio Holmes, made his entire career off one catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 good discussion on First Things First with Cris Carter, saying Butler practiced with the starters all week, BB did not give guys that started any warning they might start... announced 5 minutes before the game, locker room divided? Let's not forget that Butler played out his rookie contract - $1.5m in his first 3 years (2 Super Bowls) and $3.9m last year - I don't think he pulls a Mo after he gets paid but he has reasons to be disgruntled with the pats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Not sure anything has been confirmed, so indicting Butler on JN for weed or behavior is pretty amusing. If the price is right and he's paid as a #2 cb, I think it would be a good signing. Maybe D Brooks/Ole Miss and or J Clarke/Michigan are ready to step in and fill out either 3-4-5 spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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