Jetster Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Big difference picking @ 6 instead of 18. Much better positioning to turn things around & much better YOUNGER free agents available in positions of need for the Jets in 2018. This is why I'm somewhat optimistic. Quincy Enunwa in the 6th & a below Jag Dozier, wow, this draft really set the Jets back! Round Pick Player Position College Notes 1 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech 3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland 4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma Pick from TB 4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA 4 137 Dakota Dozier OT Furman Compensatory 5 154 Jeremiah George LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 He already has down better than this. Maybe not THAT much better but better nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jetster said: Big difference picking @ 6 instead of 18. Much better positioning to turn things around & much better YOUNGER free agents available in positions of need for the Jets in 2018. This is why I'm somewhat optimistic. Quincy Enunwa in the 6th & a below Jag Dozier, wow, this draft really set the Jets back! Round Pick Player Position College Notes 1 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech 3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland 4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma Pick from TB 4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA 4 137 Dakota Dozier OT Furman Compensatory 5 154 Jeremiah George LB Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Jalen Saunders lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jetster said: Big difference picking @ 6 instead of 18. Much better positioning to turn things around & much better YOUNGER free agents available in positions of need for the Jets in 2018. This is why I'm somewhat optimistic. Quincy Enunwa in the 6th & a below Jag Dozier, wow, this draft really set the Jets back! Round Pick Player Position College Notes 1 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech 3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland 4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma Pick from TB 4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA 4 137 Dakota Dozier OT Furman Compensatory 5 154 Jeremiah George LB What’s funny/awful is that they all hit most of the markers in terms of size, athleticism, production, etc, but they were all head cases who didn’t seem to like football very much. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Yeah that's f'n terrible. And if you wanna know why I can't blame Mac for going BAP regardless of position is because look at the draft history before he got here. 2011-2014 and there's barely any players left. People wanna complain "another pick for the defense!" , and it would be reasonable if other picks were still on the team playing well. But they're not. They're out of the league. It's going slow, but at least Mac is filling out the roster with competent players. Just needs to keep going, but in the next 2 drafts he does need to have a home run draft like the Saints did last year which would speed things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: What’s funny/awful is that they all hit most of the markers in terms of size, athleticism, production, etc, but they were all head cases who didn’t seem to like football very much. Weird. McDougles was a sized athletic freak? He was 5’10 195 pounds and ran closer to a 4.6 He had a muscler frame though. Jalen Saunders? 5’9 165 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I suppose the eternal question is how much of this is FO fail vs CS failing to develop. My money is on a healthy dose of both for us. Jets management/CS has been under par for a long time now. An example off the top of my head: Who the f*** signs Tim Tebow as an FA? Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: McDougles was a sized athletic freak? He was 5’10 195 pounds and ran closer to a 4.6 He had a muscler frame though. 4.4’s with good jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: I suppose the eternal question is how much of this is FO fail vs CS failing to develop. My money is on a healthy dose of both for us. Jets management/CS has been under par for a long time now. An example off the top of my head: Who the f*** signs Tim Tebow as an FA? Embarrassing. We traded for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: We traded for him. I forgot....even worse!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: I suppose the eternal question is how much of this is FO fail vs CS failing to develop. My money is on a healthy dose of both for us. Jets management/CS has been under par for a long time now. An example off the top of my head: Who the f*** signs Tim Tebow as an FA? Embarrassing. It's on the FO all the way. The majority of those guys can't even get on the field and have a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: 4.4’s with good jumps. “One scout clocked him at 4.59 seconds against the wind and 4.47 seconds with it.“ https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/ex-maryland-db-dexter-mcdougle-gets-chance-to-impress-nfl-scouts-at-terps-pro-day/2014/04/08/f3eadd50-bf4e-11e3-b574-f8748871856a_story.html?utm_term=.5238a37fbf9a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: It's on the FO all the way. The majority of those guys can't even get on the field and have a career. Good point. I can't think of many xJets that are "good" starters anywhere else off the top of my head. Hm, Woodhouse had a "good run" ....anyone else come to mind? Ducasse is still playing somewhere ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 In my mind Mac has to do this to save his job. Marshon Lattimore Ryan Ramzyk Marcus Williams Alex Anazalone Alvin Kamara Trey Hendrickson al-Quadin Muhammed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetster said: Big difference picking @ 6 instead of 18. Much better positioning to turn things around & much better YOUNGER free agents available in positions of need for the Jets in 2018. This is why I'm somewhat optimistic. Quincy Enunwa in the 6th & a below Jag Dozier, wow, this draft really set the Jets back! Round Pick Player Position College Notes 1 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech 3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland 4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma Pick from TB 4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA 4 137 Dakota Dozier OT Furman Compensatory 5 154 Jeremiah George LB It wasn't just Mac though with the Pryor pick at least. I think everyone that draft thought the 'Big 2' were Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor and that it was pretty much a toss up in regards to picking either one. I just think in typical screw you Jets fashion we got this crap end of it and ended up with social media abusing buffoon. Now with the Jace Amaro pick guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Jimmy Garappollo, Jarvis Landry, and Justin Britt all went after him in that round. What?!?? Why did I just look that up??? Now I'm nervous about this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, JetFanatic said: It wasn't just Mac though with the Pryor pick at least. I think everyone that draft thought the 'Big 2' were Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor and that it was pretty much a toss up in regards to picking either one. I just think in typical screw you Jets fashion we got this crap end of it and ended up with social media abusing buffoon. Now with the Jace Amaro pick guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Jimmy Garappollo, Jarvis Landry, and Justin Britt all went after him in that round. What?!?? Why did I just look that up??? Now I'm nervous about this draft. Most people here wanted Cooks and if we went safety everyone wanted the 21st century safety, not the 80’s safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 At least the players Macc has picked here can play for the most part. Hack was probably a miss but like someone said before the drafts between 2011-2014 will take years to make up for. We make fun of Lee but at least hes f*cking playing, lol. Your never going to draft pro bowl players every year, but you need guys to at least contribute. Leo, Lee, Jenkins, Adams, Maye, Shell, Anderson, Hansen, Stewart, Edwards, McGuire, Burris. Devin Smith got injured (happens). Can Mauldin save his career? Peake? Than you still have no idea yet what we have in Donahue & Leggette who were injured, Clark who was coming off injury in college, and Jones who has terrific athleticism but needs seasoning. While Macc didn't LIGHT IT UP per say, anyone can see that these drafts were obviously better than than 2011-2013 & now we go into that 4th year with 3 picks in the top 50. He's gotta make hay in this 2018 draft! Plus, he needs to do better filling the holes with younger free agents than he did in 2015 when he signed Revis, Skrine, Gilchrist, Cromarty, where even Carpenter should be upgraded now. But, because the Rex/Idzik picks were SO BAD he had no secondary when he came in. Chasing holes sucks for a GM. The earlier regime left NOTHING in the cupboard in the secondary- 2012 (Josh Bush S, Antonio Allen S), 2013 (Dee Milliner), 2014 (Calvin Pryor, Dexter McDougle). They missed on EVERYTHING. Even what was left Mo Wilkerson (Lazy Bum), Winters (OK Guard), were just scraps. You can't have 4 drafts that leave an average olineman, a DT that gets sat for missing meetings, and a WR that injures his neck in Enunwa. I just find it utterly impossible to fix something so quickly that has been left barren for so long. You look at where other GMs go & see at least starting quality talent. The Jets were left more bare than most in this league. Macc came in & under the direction of our azzhole owner was definitely told to field a competitive team. from 2011-2014 was horrific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 48 minutes ago, JetFanatic said: It wasn't just Mac though with the Pryor pick at least. I think everyone that draft thought the 'Big 2' were Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor and that it was pretty much a toss up in regards to picking either one. I just think in typical screw you Jets fashion we got this crap end of it and ended up with social media abusing buffoon. Now with the Jace Amaro pick guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Jimmy Garappollo, Jarvis Landry, and Justin Britt all went after him in that round. What?!?? Why did I just look that up??? Now I'm nervous about this draft. That was Idzik not Macc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 The next GM has to do better than THIS: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, JetFanatic said: It wasn't just Mac though with the Pryor pick at least. I think everyone that draft thought the 'Big 2' were Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor and that it was pretty much a toss up in regards to picking either one. I just think in typical screw you Jets fashion we got this crap end of it and ended up with social media abusing buffoon. Now with the Jace Amaro pick guys like Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Jimmy Garappollo, Jarvis Landry, and Justin Britt all went after him in that round. What?!?? Why did I just look that up??? Now I'm nervous about this draft. You do know this is an Idzik draft right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The next GM has to do better than THIS: Lol at least it seems like he’s picking better players with each draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Lol at least it seems like he’s picking better players with each draft. Like how you imagine your next gf will be better in bed than your existing gf. SPOILER ALERT: she won’t be. They’re all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 A random number generator would do better than that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: In my mind Mac has to do this to save his job. Marshon Lattimore Ryan Ramzyk Marcus Williams Alex Anazalone Alvin Kamara Trey Hendrickson al-Quadin Muhammed Hey, it wasn't until the Saints GMs 4th year where they hit it big to really build their team. They had the 2nd overall pick but still....Patience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 [THIS SPACE RESERVED FOR SNARKY SAFETY JOKE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Setting the benchmark here and not at someone like Caldwell is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Lol at least it seems like he’s picking better players with each draft. 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Like how you imagine your next gf will be better in bed than your existing gf. SPOILER ALERT: she won’t be. They’re all the same. In Killa's defense, Mac found 2 whole starters in last years draft. TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Hey, it wasn't until the Saints GMs 4th year where they hit it big to really build their team. They had the 2nd overall pick but still....Patience! The key is to hit on a lot of picks, whether you are picking 1 or 32, whether you have 10 picks or 4 you have to hit on al ot of them as far as starters go with some of your top ones being impact players. Mac has missed on too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, JiF said: In Killa's defense, Mac found 2 whole starters in last years draft. TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Darron Lee has elevated his play to the point where he’s a below average two-down ILB which shows massive progrsss come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Like how you imagine your next gf will be better in bed than your existing gf. SPOILER ALERT: she won’t be. They’re all the same. Oh please. You have sex with girls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: The key is to hit on a lot of picks, whether you are picking 1 or 32, whether you have 10 picks or 4 you have to hit on al ot of them as far as starters go with some of your top ones being impact players. Mac has missed on too many. How's he missed on too many? He's adding more each year, just like every other GM does. 1 starter with Leo. 4 with Lee, Jenkins, Shell and Edwards. Then 2 with Adams and Maye, rest is too soon to tell. Just needs to keep going. And needs to find a QB. That makes everything else easier and obviously makes the team and picks look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Darron Lee has elevated his play to the point where he’s a below average two-down ILB which shows massive progrsss come on My bad. There you go! Back to back drafts where Mac found a starter...Lee and Jenkins! AND???!!!! He broke the 2nd round curse with Maye. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Oh please. You have sex with girls? A handful. Several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: A handful. Several. God bless pornography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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