JetNation Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 While the Jets are expected to put on a full court press to sign free agent quarterback Kirk Cousins, there’s obviously no guarantee he’ll take his talents to 1 Jets drive. Should the Jets fail to land the quarterback, they’ll likely turn their attention to the draft where it appears that landing a quarterback may have just become a bit more complicated. With the Cleveland Browns and New York Giants picking first and second respectively, the third team on the clock, the Indianapolis Colts were viewed as a possible trade partner for Gang Green, or at least a team that wouldn’t be interested in taking a signal caller with their pick. However, in light of reports questioning the health of Andrew Luck, you can no longer assume the Colts won’t stay put and take the best QB on the board. FWIW: On Sunday, ESPN's @mortreport reported there still are doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he could wind up needing additional surgery. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 7, 2018 With Luck’s future now in doubt, there’s a good chance that the top three picks in the draft will be quarterbacks with the Denver Broncos also seeking a new quarterback after GM John Elway bombed on first and second round picks Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiller. No matter the circumstance, there are no excuses for GM Mike Maccagnan as he enters his fourth year as the team’s GM without a legitimate option at quarterback. Whether it’s a first round rookie or a veteran such as Nick Foles or Tyrod Taylor, JetNation will be calling for Maccagnan’s head if the team goes to battle with another 35+ year-old journeyman under center in 2018. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Who else thinks Luck's career is over? What a shame to have all that talent and heart and to have it all end so soon in your career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 a good hedge for indy would be to take a qb early 2nd round rather than with the 3rd pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, munchmemory said: Who else thinks Luck's career is over? What a shame to have all that talent and heart and to have it all end so soon in your career. This is incredibly freaking nuts. How does a team ... COLTS I'm looking at you ... not have your Franchise QB get a shoulder surgery by the best surgeon in the world, not some mystery doctors. Then how the hell do you not make sure he gets the best rehab and therapies possible. This is ridiculous. completely ridiculous. I don't know if it's over but it is leaning that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: a good hedge for indy would be to take a qb early 2nd round rather than with the 3rd pick in the draft. trade the 3rd pick to JETs, get extra picks and draft a QB later first or early 2nd. I agree.... for Darnold or Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I wonder if this is part of the reason that McDaniels backed out of the Colts deal when he was appraised of Luck's poor prognosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I can't see the Colts taking a QB at 3. They've continually stated that Luck is their guy and he just spoke about getting ready to throw again. McDaniels didn't come to Indy because he's a pussy and is afraid of failing on his own again, not because the Colts FO disclosed to him that Luck's arm is all jacked up. The Colts have a ton invested in Luck, both from a contract standpoint and what they've sold their fan base. Taking a QB at 3 basically blows that all up. They'll trade down, get some extra picks and take a QB in the 2nd - 4th and call, whoever it is, an "insurance policy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gangrene said: I wonder if this is part of the reason that McDaniels backed out of the Colts deal when he was appraised of Luck's poor prognosis. doubt it. he had already met with the colts, and why would anyone on the pats have more info than the colts. i think kraft told him what he wanted to hear and then his wife said how nice it would be not to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeJayy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 IMO the Colts have to many other weaknesses to draft a QB with the 3rd overall. I wonder what the "right" package would be for Indy to start thinking about dealing Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 They’re not taking a QB with there 3rd pick. They’re getting an impact player and picking up a vet QB to fill the gap unless they’re sure Luck is ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 They aren’t trading Luck, period. They will at least see how he looks on the field before they just give up like that. Nothing else would make sense. You dedicate a whole year and a half to rehabbing your franchise QB’s shoulder just to trade him 90% through the rehab without even waiting to see how he looks post injury? No. What would be the point of waiting that long just to not be patient enough at the very end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, Stark said: This is incredibly freaking nuts. How does a team ... COLTS I'm looking at you ... not have your Franchise QB get a shoulder surgery by the best surgeon in the world, not some mystery doctors. Then how the hell do you not make sure he gets the best rehab and therapies possible. This is ridiculous. completely ridiculous. I don't know if it's over but it is leaning that way. because Jim Irsay - the Marion Barry of NFL owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, Stark said: This is incredibly freaking nuts. How does a team ... COLTS I'm looking at you ... not have your Franchise QB get a shoulder surgery by the best surgeon in the world, not some mystery doctors. Then how the hell do you not make sure he gets the best rehab and therapies possible. This is ridiculous. completely ridiculous. I don't know if it's over but it is leaning that way. Worst run team not in Cleveland. You have Peyton, you win the lottery and get Luck, and get him killed, and not even properly taken care of by competent medical staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Why is anyone surprised at this news? The guy was supposed to be back playing ages ago and wasn't. And he never came back in 2017. If that didn't already scream "concerns about Luck" what does? smh, it's like some folks refuse to believe something till Manish Mehta or Adam Schefter says it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Why is anyone surprised at this news? The guy was supposed to be back playing ages ago and wasn't. And he never came back in 2017. If that didn't already scream "concerns about Luck" what does? smh, it's like some folks refuse to believe something till Manish Mehta or Adam Schefter says it. Ya there have been warning signs all season... The biggest to me early on was the secrecy of it all. The lack of concrete information and the way the Colts stayed obtuse about the whole thing was a red flag things were dicey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Who else thinks Luck's career is over? What a shame to have all that talent and heart and to have it all end so soon in your career. Guess what they didn't have... A good OL to protect him... All the more reason the JETS should do the smart thing and build that line before they select someone who's going to get killed, or at least even if they do select a QB at 6, make at least 2-3 picks in the draft on OLineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 "there still are doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he could wind up needing additional surgery." Doctors? What doctors? Luck's doctors? Schefter's plastic surgeon he was seeing for his latest lift? Sounds like pot stirring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sounds like Andrew has been awfully... ...unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If I was Josh McDaniels and I was getting buried under three tons of negative press about ditching the Colts, you know what I’d do? I’d get someone from the Patriots to tell Chris Mortensen that Andrew Luck may or may not need surgery. That’s what I’d do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 ALRIGHT I GUESS WE GOT A BUNCHA JERKS HERE WHO HATE JOKES I CAN SHOW MYSELF OUT THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 What does this have to do with Adams, Martin and Pennington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 What this rumor might do is increase the trade-up price. Could very well be a smoke screen for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Say hello to the 2018 NY Jets starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Not buying that the Colts are taking a QB at #3. If they stay put, it’s either going to be Barkley or Chubb. Always has been, always will be. Luck will be ready by training camp and they still have Brissett under contract for another 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Colts fans should be thankful Peyton Manning came along....otherwise they'd be recognized as the worst organization in football, right there with the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 So? Just sign Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Not buying that the Colts are taking a QB at #3. If they stay put, it’s either going to be Barkley or Chubb. Always has been, always will be. Luck will be ready by training camp and they still have Brissett under contract for another 2 years. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: ALRIGHT I GUESS WE GOT A BUNCHA JERKS HERE WHO HATE JOKES I CAN SHOW MYSELF OUT THANKS I guess its all over with the shouting instead of but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I may be a bit behind here, but I have not heard about who the doctors were who worked on Luck, etc. Obviously seems like James Andrews would be the guy. If the Colts tried to make him use other doctors, Luck is a grown up with alot of money, and he has the right to see his own doctors. I recall others doing that. He has no one to blame but himself if he used inferior doctors used by the Colts. I think if Darnold or Rosen are there the Colts take him-they can always trade him later. Mayfield? Depends how they evaluate him. If someone wants to trade for Mayfield, they take that. If its the Jets or Broncos, they still get Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 hours ago, munchmemory said: Who else thinks Luck's career is over? What a shame to have all that talent and heart and to have it all end so soon in your career. See David Wright. Terrible shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 13 hours ago, Stark said: This is incredibly freaking nuts. How does a team ... COLTS I'm looking at you ... not have your Franchise QB get a shoulder surgery by the best surgeon in the world, not some mystery doctors. Then how the hell do you not make sure he gets the best rehab and therapies possible. This is ridiculous. completely ridiculous. I don't know if it's over but it is leaning that way. Lets add to what is freaking nuts. How do you get one of the greatest QB's of all-time and win a Super Bowl with him (Manning), then Luck out (pun intended) the one year your franchise QB is hurt to get the next best prospect of a QB since the one that won you a Super Bowl......and allow him to get KILLED every year because you never invest in protecting him with a great OL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Sounds like Andrew has been awfully... ...unlucky. I've just come to the realization that you can say anything and its funny. You're like the Norm Macdonald of JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Francessa had a Doctor on discussing injuries every week, and he continually bashed the Doctors as incompetent who treat Luck, he said they keep looking at the shoulder, it’s not Shoulder that’s repaired I’ve seen this a 1000 times after that surgery where a guy still can’t throw with full strength, but it’s not the shoulder it’s the Bicep, there is according to him a very common bicep issue after that surgery that needs to be repaired and then rehabbed and all else goes back to normal and good as new. Trade for Luck, higher that Doctor to do the physical, and if he says that’s the case approve the deal get him the surgery have him on the field for week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said: I've just come to the realization that you can say anything and its funny. You're like the Norm Macdonald of JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: I've just come to the realization that you can say anything and its funny. You're like the Norm Macdonald of JN. I hit the buttfumble icon to teach him a harsh lesson. Perhaps the harshest lesson of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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