TuscanyTile2 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Start the video at 25:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Read kriegels biography of Joe Really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Namath hung out with the fringe of society for sure, but I don't think he ever threw a game or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I'd sign Charles Manson if he could bring us back to the big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 hours ago, jgb said: I'd sign Charles Manson if he could bring us back to the big one. possibly the founder of the pat* way - good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 12 hours ago, jetscrazey said: Namath hung out with the fringe of society for sure, but I don't think he ever threw a game or anything. the FBI had a file on him and tapped the phones at bachelor's III I believe, but never got any dirt on him. Rumors flew after Earl moral missed the wide open flea flicker and threw like 4 picks that he threw SB 3 Many NFL teams have roots in crime, even the maras I think Joe mostly showed up still drunk when he blew games Not the most inspiring story but sure beats throwing games for the mob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Larz said: the FBI had a file on him and tapped the phones at bachelor's III I believe, but never got any dirt on him. Rumors flew after Earl moral missed the wide open flea flicker and threw like 4 picks that he threw SB 3 Many NFL teams have roots in crime, even the maras I think Joe mostly showed up still drunk when he blew games Not the most inspiring story but sure beats throwing games for the mob I wonder about the "never got any dirt". Forcing him to sell the bar or retire could possibly be "we've got dirt on you that we don't want to expose because it'll destroy the league if we reveal it. You're selling this bar or you're done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I wonder about the "never got any dirt". Forcing him to sell the bar or retire could possibly be "we've got dirt on you that we don't want to expose because it'll destroy the league if we reveal it. You're selling this bar or you're done." kriegel wrote that hoover hated Namath and wanted to get him. I expect hoover would have done more with dirt than make him sell the bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Larz said: kriegel wrote that hoover hated Namath and wanted to get him. I expect hoover would have done more with dirt than make him sell the bar Who is Hoover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Who is Hoover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 13 hours ago, jetscrazey said: Namath hung out with the fringe of society for sure, but I don't think he ever threw a game or anything. He tried to throw the 1968 AFL Championship Game by going on an all-night bender the night before and crawling out of bed with a call girl at 7AM on gameday (source Kridel book). Not to mention the entire seasons he threw away by water skiing a week before training camp (blew both hamstrings while recovering from knee surgery) and making an ill advised tackle after he threw an interception in a preseason game (blew his knee while recovering from wrist surgery). The guy was entertaining but actually an idiot. Can you imagine what Jets fans of today would say if our franchise QB got injured this way? Water skiing after a season-ending knee surgery the year before on the eve of training camp with knees already ripped to shreds in college? And then making a meaningless tackle in a meaningless preseason game to blow his knee again after missing the end of the prior year due to wrist surgery? Good lord, he'd be vilified on Twitter. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 16 hours ago, jgb said: I'd sign Charles Manson if he could bring us back to the big one. Dead Manson at qb > Hackenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 All part of the charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 17 hours ago, jgb said: I'd sign Charles Manson if he could bring us back to the big one. You are a little too late on this one. Mason's current weight makes him pretty much undraftable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Namath did some remarkably dumb things. Physically would like to think had he been born 20 or 30 years later or born into an structured intact family , he gets sober, smart and takes care of himself. But then again may he isn't Joe Namath . We'll never know. Doesn't excuse any of it, but clear he was a stone alcoholic. Was a very different time. And he wasn't alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Wow, that’s terrible. Also, ps, Roger Goodell lives in a constant state of terror regarding his product losing the implicit endorsement of the international cartels that govern the gambling industry, and would be fed to Steve Wynn’s sharks if Roger ever let a WaPo reporter get an infinitesimal whiff of the extent of the ongoing Patriots cover-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Who is Hoover? heir to a vacuum dynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, TnT said: I know one of the prosecutors of this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, jgb said: I know one of the prosecutors of this case ?????? They locked up a baaaaad man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 22 hours ago, jgb said: I'd sign Charles Manson if he could bring us back to the big one. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 1:04 AM, jetscrazey said: Namath hung out with the fringe of society for sure, but I don't think he ever threw a game or anything. No. Not on Purpose. They just kept him out drinking and cavorting with women until the wee hours of the morning on game days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 19 hours ago, SAR I said: He tried to throw the 1968 AFL Championship Game by going on an all-night bender the night before and crawling out of bed with a call girl at 7AM on gameday (source Kridel book). Not to mention the entire seasons he threw away by water skiing a week before training camp (blew both hamstrings while recovering from knee surgery) and making an ill advised tackle after he threw an interception in a preseason game (blew his knee while recovering from wrist surgery). The guy was entertaining but actually an idiot. Can you imagine what Jets fans of today would say if our franchise QB got injured this way? Water skiing after a season-ending knee surgery the year before on the eve of training camp with knees already ripped to shreds in college? And then making a meaningless tackle in a meaningless preseason game to blow his knee again after missing the end of the prior year due to wrist surgery? Good lord, he'd be vilified on Twitter. SAR I Not to mention all of the games he tossed away by insisting on calling passing plays when the Jets could have easily won relying on the running game and D. He once through 5 interceptions AFTER the Jets had a 21 point lead. That game ended in a tie with Houston and cost the Jets the Division title and playoff spot. If you didn't see Namath play, you have no idea how talented he really was. He was drafted to play baseball out of High School, could dunk a basketball, and Bear Bryant called him the greatest athlete he had ever coached. Oh yeah, and he could knock a dingleberry of a fly's butt from 40 yards away. Unfortunately, he had a huge ego and two cent head when it came to doing what was needed to win a football game. The 69 SB was the only game he ever played where he put winning ahead of his desire to air it out. If he called every game like the SB, the Jets may have won 3 SB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 20 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Who is Hoover? Are you 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Larz said: kriegel wrote that hoover hated Namath and wanted to get him. I expect hoover would have done more with dirt than make him sell the bar I read that Hoover never forgave Joe for saying the FBI director did not have the legs for high heels or pumps. One of the reasons historians believe Hoover wore flats or saddle shoes during his cross dressing forays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 15 hours ago, Maxman said: You are a little too late on this one. Mason's current weight makes him pretty much undraftable. Or smell worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 9:35 PM, Larz said: Read kriegels biography of Joe Really good His work with pelvic floor-bolstering exercises were/are revolutionary, as well as beneficial for post-birth vaginal wall tightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, munchmemory said: I read that Hoover never forgave Joe for saying the FBI director did not have the legs for high heels or pumps. One of the reasons historians believe Hoover wore flats or saddle shoes during his cross dressing forays. He was also jealous of Joe getting the pantyhose commercial.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Not to mention all of the games he tossed away by insisting on calling passing plays when the Jets could have easily won relying on the running game and D. He once through 5 interceptions AFTER the Jets had a 21 point lead. That game ended in a tie with Houston and cost the Jets the Division title and playoff spot. If you didn't see Namath play, you have no idea how talented he really was. He was drafted to play baseball out of High School, could dunk a basketball, and Bear Bryant called him the greatest athlete he had ever coached. Oh yeah, and he could knock a dingleberry of a fly's butt from 40 yards away. Unfortunately, he had a huge ego and two cent head when it came to doing what was needed to win a football game. The 69 SB was the only game he ever played where he put winning ahead of his desire to air it out. If he called every game like the SB, the Jets may have won 3 SB's. Great post. Never knew that, especially the 5 interceptions after a 21 point lead. Crazy stuff. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 1:12 PM, SAR I said: He tried to throw the 1968 AFL Championship Game by going on an all-night bender the night before and crawling out of bed with a call girl at 7AM on gameday (source Kridel book). Not to mention the entire seasons he threw away by water skiing a week before training camp (blew both hamstrings while recovering from knee surgery) and making an ill advised tackle after he threw an interception in a preseason game (blew his knee while recovering from wrist surgery). The guy was entertaining but actually an idiot. Can you imagine what Jets fans of today would say if our franchise QB got injured this way? Water skiing after a season-ending knee surgery the year before on the eve of training camp with knees already ripped to shreds in college? And then making a meaningless tackle in a meaningless preseason game to blow his knee again after missing the end of the prior year due to wrist surgery? Good lord, he'd be vilified on Twitter. SAR I Just imagine if we had Instagram during the Chester A. Arthur administration. Now that would have been chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Not to mention all of the games he tossed away by insisting on calling passing plays when the Jets could have easily won relying on the running game and D. He once through 5 interceptions AFTER the Jets had a 21 point lead. That game ended in a tie with Houston and cost the Jets the Division title and playoff spot. If you didn't see Namath play, you have no idea how talented he really was. He was drafted to play baseball out of High School, could dunk a basketball, and Bear Bryant called him the greatest athlete he had ever coached. Oh yeah, and he could knock a dingleberry of a fly's butt from 40 yards away. Unfortunately, he had a huge ego and two cent head when it came to doing what was needed to win a football game. The 69 SB was the only game he ever played where he put winning ahead of his desire to air it out. If he called every game like the SB, the Jets may have won 3 SB's. Interesting. I never did see him play. Was there talk of him throwing games away? Or was he just the "million dollar arm with a ten cent head" kind of guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, SAR I said: Great post. Never knew that, especially the 5 interceptions after a 21 point lead. Crazy stuff. SAR I If you ever look at their Super Bowl run, he was the definition of a game manager. He had a great drive to beat Oakland, but the 2nd half of that season and the SB, safe passes, very few interceptions, very few TD passes. Use that power running game and great D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Not to mention all of the games he tossed away by insisting on calling passing plays when the Jets could have easily won relying on the running game and D. He once through 5 interceptions AFTER the Jets had a 21 point lead. That game ended in a tie with Houston and cost the Jets the Division title and playoff spot. If you didn't see Namath play, you have no idea how talented he really was. He was drafted to play baseball out of High School, could dunk a basketball, and Bear Bryant called him the greatest athlete he had ever coached. Oh yeah, and he could knock a dingleberry of a fly's butt from 40 yards away. Unfortunately, he had a huge ego and two cent head when it came to doing what was needed to win a football game. The 69 SB was the only game he ever played where he put winning ahead of his desire to air it out. If he called every game like the SB, the Jets may have won 3 SB's. your namesake is responsible for that. At Alabama he would call 6 passes in a game if the run game was working Werblin wanted a star like the talent he managed in Hollywood He told Joe to keep throwing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, peebag said: Are you 12? Joe Namath was 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, chirorob said: If you ever look at their Super Bowl run, he was the definition of a game manager. He had a great drive to beat Oakland, but the 2nd half of that season and the SB, safe passes, very few interceptions, very few TD passes. Use that power running game and great D. Yes, that I knew. I just didn't know that his selfishness cost us a playoff berth in '66 or '67 it seems. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197209240clt.htm Too young to recall Super Bowl III. Here is the very first game I can really remember; Namath was 29, and Unitas 39. Probably both were done. But in this game they both got one last chance to shine. Not getting treacly Mitch Albom/Mike Lupica syrupy treacle nonsense here, you got to remember sometimes while there's so much bad and sucky about being a fan, you still get days when you see some all time greats doing things you will remember until you are an old f___er . And why you keep going back in hopes of seeing a game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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